Originally Posted by PocketPcUser (Post 523828)

No offense, but by that statement, you seem to be stating that you no little about video cards, or even some more day-to-day computer techniques.
RAM - VRAM is used to process anything video. For laptops, they always have an actual video card, that either has dedicated memory for video related tasks, or, they have a card that can control and manage RAM and allocate it as VRAM. In mobile devices like PDAs, I think it is similar, if not strictly the latter, being that they always program into the drivers and firmware, that they set-aside a certain amount of RAM to use for VRAM. You do know that the device (Touch Pro) has specs stating that it comes with 288MB of RAM, right? Well, not all of this is even available to the user... You only can even see like ~200MB, and the other portion is allocated for Video RAM. For the HD, I assume that it is an increased amount of RAM, that is dedicated to the Video Board.
I like to be corrected, but only if I say something wrong. To directly answer your question:
"Does ur computer monitor use ram?"
Nope; but to get the data to and from my motherboard and RAM, it needs to be processed and therefore the process does use some of my RAM.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 523845)

Newer computer systems does not touch ur system ram. That is why the video cards havve dedicated RAM. Up to 1 gig just to run it's own graphics and resolution etc.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 523845)

On mobile phones, If the video chip does not have a dedicated ram, it shares it from the system ram with a particular amount. it will not go over that amount. Now, The RAM that the display is using is being taken care of by the video chip. So the rest of the RAM will be used for the system.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 523845)

SO take the display out, since the hardware is identical to the TP, It will run like a TP but with bigger display.

Originally Posted by PocketPcUser (Post 523858)

This is not an entirely correct statement. IF there is a dedicated video card, with DEDICATED VRAM, then unless it is dynamic, it won't touch the RAM. However, most laptops and computers either ship with the integrated graphics, or a dynamic allocated video card, which means that they can use system memory for VRAM. Hence, they do touch the system RAM.


I don't see where what I said, was any different here... :???:

That is not true; it has to utilize more VRAM, because it has to support a wider area and amount of pixels. Just like when you run your laptop at a higher display settings, like higher resolution, it requires more VRAM, or runs poorly. This is no different then with VGA+ devices in Windows Mobile. In fact, even the standard programs like Outlook Mobile, use more RAM due to the bigger screen. Now, it most likely is only by a mere KB's, but it is still MORE.

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You may be really knowledgable, but you aren't showing it by your replies. :scratch:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 523870)

Do U know where VRAM on computers are located? It's in the graphics card. VRAM on the system U may be mistaken as the Virtual RAM. Which is on the HD as a backup if the RAM is not sufficient

Originally Posted by PocketPcUser (Post 523858)

That is not true; it has to utilize more VRAM, because it has to support a wider area and amount of pixels. Just like when you run your laptop at a higher display settings, like higher resolution, it requires more VRAM, or runs poorly. This is no different then with VGA+ devices in Windows Mobile. In fact, even the standard programs like Outlook Mobile, use more RAM due to the bigger screen. Now, it most likely is only by a mere KB's, but it is still MORE.

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You may be really knowledgable, but you aren't showing it by your replies. :scratch:

Originally Posted by PocketPcUser (Post 523877)

I know what I said, and yes, I know the difference. I was continuing with what I was talking about, in regards to my first reply. I mean, that it utilizes, or allocates, System RAM, and uses it AS/LIKE/SIMILAR TO VRAM. It is just how the computer addresses the memory, if I am not mistaken. It just addresses the memory differently, when it allocates it as Video Memory.

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 523906)

I will give U an example. Even ur system have 8gigs of ram. ANd U use a video card that share the system ram. It will not work a hardcore game. Because the graphics part will not consume all 8gigs of ur system RAM just to process the graphics. System will only allocate a certain amount of ram to the graphics part and when it consumes all of it, It will start to lag until it cannot handle anymore and it will crash.