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collindv 08-28-2008 08:41 AM

Previous 6700 owners, please read and comment
 
To those out there that have previously owned 6700's and now use the 6800. I have used a verizon 6700 for the past 1.5 years and am coming up on my new every two renewal period in a week or so. My questions is this, is it worth upgrading from the 6700 to the 6800, or will I not see enough of a difference to make it worth it? I like my 6700 running a custom WM6.0 kitchen and have become accustomed to it's occasional and random lockups, slow downs, soft resets, etc. From my understanding, the only real benefits of the 6800 would be EVDO rev A, working internal GPS with a custom kitchen, and 128MB more RAM.

With the touch pro on the horizon, I would really like to hold out for that, but I know it will be out of my price range for at least a year I would say. I'm not big on paying more than $200 or so for a phone.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by collindv (Post 396676)
To those out there that have previously owned 6700's and now use the 6800. I have used a verizon 6700 for the past 1.5 years and am coming up on my new every two renewal period in a week or so. My questions is this, is it worth upgrading from the 6700 to the 6800, or will I not see enough of a difference to make it worth it? I like my 6700 running a custom WM6.0 kitchen and have become accustomed to it's occasional and random lockups, slow downs, soft resets, etc. From my understanding, the only real benefits of the 6800 would be EVDO rev A, working internal GPS with a custom kitchen, and 128MB more RAM.

With the touch pro on the horizon, I would really like to hold out for that, but I know it will be out of my price range for at least a year I would say. I'm not big on paying more than $200 or so for a phone.

As a former 67 user, YES, it is very much worth it. The camera is better, my volume is much more loud and I actually have to turn it down at times. The keyboard is better laid out. The extra ROM space is a plus. The ability to do TRUE GPS is great.

However, I got my 68 on an insurance upgrade but I also will be looking to get the Touch Pro or Diamond Pro or Raphel or whatever they call it now. But also like you, the price will be a factor.

Lsme420 08-28-2008 09:27 AM

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Ya I also say its worth it. For all the same reasons weeds said but the biggest one to me was "Its a new phone".
I must confess thoe I too will be making the slide to the Pro when it comes out.

jimnutt 08-28-2008 09:43 AM

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I got mine as an insurance replacement and have been very happy with it. The much larger storage memory means that putting a lot of OEMs into a custom ROM is no longer necessary, so upgrades are easier to deal with. The initial upgrade to a custom rom is a bit scarier than on the apache, but not too difficult.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 09:46 AM

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OH YEAH!!! That was a big one to me too. I needed something new to bring back my interest in it. THX for helping me remember that one LSME420

nuguy 08-28-2008 10:26 AM

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the 6800 is worth the step up for sure, but perhaps you could hold out on them, talk to retentions about how you are looking at another carier because of (price/features/phones/whatever) and see if you can't get a little help stepping to the touch pro, or only a year contract (getting you to the pro in a year).

Good luck!

collindv 08-28-2008 10:42 AM

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Yes, that's my big problem. I have the itch for a new phone NOW! I really, really want the touch pro, but my guess is it will take at least a year to get down to a price I am willing to pay.

Lsme420 08-28-2008 10:46 AM

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Sprint was running a special that mostly every one was eligible for a $150 rebate.
Maybe its still going on.
Check your upgrade discount without signing on >

weedahoe 08-28-2008 11:24 AM

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Well like I said earlier, I had a 67 and got the 68 as an insurance upgrade and my contract is up about the time the Diamond Pro will be out so I can use that hopefully. Why not try an insurance upgrade?

shaggylive 08-28-2008 11:38 AM

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one thing that was touched on but not fully thought out is the the keyboard. while the 6800 keyboard was an improvement over the 6700, however it slides out from the opposite side. the touch pro goes back to the 6700 style (kinda)
it took me a few months to totally get used to the 6800's keyboard, and I'm not looking forward to doing it again, although I will likely get a touchpro.

Lsme420 08-28-2008 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 396853)
one thing that was touched on but not fully thought out is the the keyboard. while the 6800 keyboard was an improvement over the 6700, however it slides out from the opposite side. the touch pro goes back to the 6700 style (kinda)
it took me a few months to totally get used to the 6800's keyboard, and I'm not looking forward to doing it again, although I will likely get a touchpro.

Oh whaa. JK :)
It could be worse there could be no keyboard. That was a adjustment tho but not one I felt was to bad.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 11:47 AM

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That is true about the KB being different in that way and needing to get used to. I am still not fully used to mine yet. I keep looking for my numbers at the top and I noticed there is no ($) dollar sign on there anymore. I used to use that a lot but oh well, I still like it.

georgeckc 08-28-2008 11:54 AM

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IMO, 6800 is MUCH MUCH better than my old 6700. However, you might want to consider something like HTC Diamond or whatever new model they are coming out since 6800 is technology of 2-3 years ago. As a current 6800 user, I love the phone I have that can do most of the stuff no other phone can do. Only complain is lack of memory for program. I schedule soft reset every morning and it reduced "freezing".

shaggylive 08-28-2008 11:54 AM

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yea, I'm a little bit of a crybaby, but that's cuz it's really dry here,(all summer) good to see green is strong elsewhere.. ;)

collindv 08-28-2008 11:55 AM

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I guess I'm afraid that if I try an insurance upgrade I would end up with a refurbed 6700 :-(

Lsme420 08-28-2008 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 396874)
yea, I'm a little bit of a crybaby, but that's cuz it's really dry here,(all summer) good to see green is strong elsewhere.. ;)

Dry here too the last month or so. Every things brown.
Come Nov. (first frost) every thing will be green again. :)

192raptor 08-28-2008 11:59 AM

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I absolutely love the 6800 over my old 6700. The only complaint I have heard is from a friend who has multiple 6700's and 6800's under his control through his company. He had lost his ability to tether with the 6800 (verizon). I don't have this issue with sprint, and I am not sure if there is a fix, just something to consider.

fred_dj 08-28-2008 12:00 PM

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This is a 100% YES! I broke my 6700 by dropping in from a few inches high on the carpet! ( The USB Cable was in it, and it fell over the Jack breaking the USB connection off the main board ) I was so sad that day , but anyways I bought a 6800 a week later. took me a while to customize it back the way it was, but the phone is Smaller, lighter, Thinner, GPS is awesome! also, the scrolling key is nice. It has more ram, the CPU is about the same speed. But it is definetly a better phone. GO FOR IT!

Lsme420 08-28-2008 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_dj (Post 396880)
the scrolling key is nice.

Thats a major difference. Ya the Scroll wheel rocks. I loved it on my Blackberry and missed it on my 6700.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by collindv (Post 396875)
I guess I'm afraid that if I try an insurance upgrade I would end up with a refurbed 6700 :-(

And you likely will but then you call back with the 14 days and tell them it isnt working for whatever reason and ask if they have any comparable units (Treo 700 or 6800) and then take the 68.

shadow-tech 08-28-2008 02:07 PM

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6800 wifi is b/g. while the 6700 is just b.
GPS
evdo rev. A gives u download speed like twice as fast in some areas.
keyboard slides open much easier and smoother.
ofiicial windows mobile 6 support
it fits in ur pocket MUCH better.
scrolling wheel is GREAT
plus u can now see what all the hub-bub is about.

i too miss my 6700, for some reason i just feel it was a more solid piece of equipment. (once u replaced it 3 times and finally got a good one.) but the 6800 has more features so i had to go with that. and i am very happy with the decision.

bmb2n 08-28-2008 04:18 PM

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Why settle for an obsoleted phone? The HTC Diamond Pro is comming to Sprint in 9/2/08. The 6700 has a few advantages over the 6800 in term of overclocking and video playback. The keyboard slideout for the 6700 is right handed people. The 6800 on the other hand has better custom ROM support and an internal GPS receiver. The stub antenna on the 6700 also boosts radio reception.

shaggylive 08-28-2008 04:30 PM

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the op has verizon and a budget.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 09:39 PM

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not to mention the Diamond is not going to be an insurance replacement. We all agree to get the Diamond but for now get the 68 since the Diamond isnt going to be out for a while on VZW.

steps 08-28-2008 09:43 PM

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I'm pretty sure you could get your 6800 free when you renew since you have the 6700 already and insurance.

weedahoe 08-28-2008 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steps (Post 397510)
I'm pretty sure you could get your 6800 free when you renew since you have the 6700 already and insurance.

Rule number one, nothing is free, especally a 6800.

shadow-tech 08-28-2008 10:34 PM

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its 50$ bucks, not free.

sl8763 08-29-2008 01:51 AM

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Posted this a while back on PDAPhoneHome:

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6...-thoughts.html

The 6800 flat-out rocks compared to the 6700. I loved the 6700 when I had it, but now I don't miss it at all.

collindv 08-29-2008 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sl8763 (Post 397707)
Posted this a while back on PDAPhoneHome:

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6...-thoughts.html

The 6800 flat-out rocks compared to the 6700. I loved the 6700 when I had it, but now I don't miss it at all.

Thanks, good comparison.

Based on all the feedback, I think I am going to go ahead and get the 6800 now and keep my eye on the price of the touch pro once it comes out.

Thanks everyone.

spotdog77 08-29-2008 02:53 PM

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You really should make the move. My 6600 died for the umpteenth timt hree weeks ago. Assurion attempted to replace it with the 6700 and twice the unit choked on my contacts. They sent me the 6800, new and for the first time since the SX56 came on the market 6 years ago, I AM PUMPED. The device is very smart. I set up my business email on the device without any special knowledge. It found the settings on its own, over the network.
By way of comparison, having carried the 6700 for a month cummulatively, the 6800 is much better. Having used the xv6600 for nearly 3 years I have to say that the 6700 was even a step backwards from that aged device. The 6700 processor was slower than the 6600 - maybe not in the ratings, but definiteely in performance. The 6600 screen is larger than the 6700.

Sorry, you were asking about comparisons between the 6700 and 6800. I too was waiting for the touch pro but Verizon is VERY slow to promise anything and I am defo glad I have the 6800. After installing TotalCommander, a file explorer for PPC's I was able to get my ring-tones without having to purchase something through Verizon. I totally recommend Total Commander or whatever it is called for ANY PPC.

Let me know what you decide. I have seen new xv6800's on ebay for around $225 and I would consider that money "well spent".

Spotdog77

Craig540 08-29-2008 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lsme420 (Post 396709)
Ya I also say its worth it. For all the same reasons weeds said but the biggest one to me was "Its a new phone".
I must confess thoe I too will be making the slide to the Pro when it comes out.


DITTO
And the memmory make a big difference even with the stock rom.

pflatlyne 08-29-2008 03:59 PM

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I wouldnt. The new phones are coming out within the next two months. Wait for the rapheal. It will have a better screen and a faster cpu. You will be kicking yourself if you buy a 6800 now.

collindv 08-29-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Previous 6700 owners, please read and comment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pflatlyne (Post 398289)
I wouldnt. The new phones are coming out within the next two months. Wait for the rapheal. It will have a better screen and a faster cpu. You will be kicking yourself if you buy a 6800 now.


The Raphael will likely go for around $400-500 if I had to guess vs the $250 for a 6800. Too much coin for a cell phone when you could pick up a decent laptop for that much. I will have to wait until it comes down before getting that one.

weedahoe 08-29-2008 11:07 PM

Re: Previous 6700 owners, please read and comment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pflatlyne (Post 398289)
I wouldnt. The new phones are coming out within the next two months. Wait for the rapheal. It will have a better screen and a faster cpu. You will be kicking yourself if you buy a 6800 now.

Slow down, no one is talking about going out and buying one, maybe as an insurance upgrade but not at full price

toinejuan 08-30-2008 10:22 PM

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I am getting a 6800 as an insurance replacement. It's going to be here on Tuesday, someone said it was bit more painful to install a custom rom on it. Is there anything special I need to do before I activate the phone to install my custom rom? I've been cooking up roms for the Apache since the kitchen was released. So, if there's anything that's much different with the mogul please let a brother know so I can start preparing before hand.

GaMedic 08-30-2008 10:53 PM

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You wil need to unlock it. The cooking and installing is the same. It also depends on your provider. If you have VZW and it has the latest release you will have to do some extra to get the GPS working. They have it blocked for VZnavigator only. Read the tutorial I have linked in my signature and you will find all you need to do the proceess.

JDM_SOHC 09-01-2008 12:43 AM

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dude the mogul vs the apache is hands down the mogul... it beats the apache in every way possible... i loved my apache, but that was until i got my mogul... an now that the diamonds here my mogul is becoming long lived haha...

puff 09-01-2008 01:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by collindv (Post 398389)
The Raphael will likely go for around $400-500 if I had to guess vs the $250 for a 6800. Too much coin for a cell phone when you could pick up a decent laptop for that much. I will have to wait until it comes down before getting that one.

define decent laptop for ~$500

phazed 09-01-2008 01:26 AM

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get the 6800 if you don't want to wait for the next big thing... the software on the 6800 is refined much better than when it first came out

weedahoe 09-02-2008 08:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 400292)
define decent laptop for ~$500

You can get a repuatable 1.5Ghz+ dual core with 2-3gb of RAM, a DL/Lightscribe burner with a 15in screen for around that price all day.


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