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InvincibleLiving 03-04-2008 05:44 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wldthng842 (Post 202555)
sounds like no. video buffer prob ran out and dl timed out.

but that's only if i stay on the phone line for longer than 2 mins... if i get off the phone sooner nothing drops and preformance continues, dl's dont time out, or even disconnect...

something happens but it somehow gets aborted....

phazed 03-04-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
Currently, it isn't working like that...

if it were, then I wouldn't have had to hang up with the Sprint Rep to test my e-mail account today. Definitely voice or Data one at a time.. not concurrently.

I would suspect that the 2 minute mark everyone keeps talking about is simply an inactivity timeout.

phaZed

tavella 03-04-2008 07:18 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized

Potential competing standards
Motorola proposed a new system called 1Xtreme as an evolution of CDMA2000, but it was rejected by 3GPP2 standardization body. Later, a competing standard called EV-DV developed by Qualcomm, Lucent, Nokia, Motorola, etc. in 3GPP2 was proposed as an alternate evolution of CDMA. EV-DV stands for Evolution-Data and Voice, since the channel structure was backwards compatible with IS-95 and IS-2000 (1xRTT), allowing an in-band network deployment. (EV-DO requires an overlay network when deployed in mixed mode.)

At the time, there was much debate on the relative merits of DV and DO. Traditional operators with an existing voice network preferred deploying DV, since it does not require an overlay. Other design engineers, and newer operators without a 1x voice network, preferred EV-DO because it did not have to be backward compatible, and so could explore different pilot structures, reverse link silence periods, improved control channels, etc. And the network cost was lower, since EV-DO uses an IP network and does not require a SS7 network and complex network switches such as a mobile switching center (MSC). Also, equipment was not available for EV-DV in time to meet market demands whereas the EV-DO equipment and mobile application-specific integrated circuits (ASIC) were available and tested by the time the EV-DV standard was completed. As a result, the EV-DV standard was less attractive to operators, and has not been implemented. Verizon Wireless, then Sprint Nextel in 2004 and smaller operators in 2005 announced their plans to deploy EV-DO. So in March 2005, Qualcomm suspended development of EV-DV chipsets, and focused on improving the EV-DO product line.

wldthng842 03-04-2008 07:26 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
I knew all of this but what is it's relevance to the topic at hand. EV-DV by default would have had a channel for voice and a channel for data by definition. But my understanding is that a lot of the tech in EV-DV was built into revisions for EV-DO since it was not used anywhere else. I am open to being proven wrong, but I think that is how it all works.

thesupersperm 03-04-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
if im using internet on my mogul, no calls come thru unless its in idle. i do however recive texts. so ev-do rev.A will let my calls come thru while online?

InvincibleLiving 03-04-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thesupersperm (Post 202762)
if im using internet on my mogul, no calls come thru unless its in idle. i do however recive texts. so ev-do rev.A will let my calls come thru while online?

call from a landline to see. i'm wondering if this may be rom dependent as well, it's worked for me on 3.16 and Nuerom build 5049.

wldthng842 03-04-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
Technically it is capable of allowing you to talk and surf at the same time. The question is whether Sprint has enabled it on the leaked ROM.

InvincibleLiving 03-04-2008 08:20 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
it has not been confirmed yet wheter this has been enabled by sprint, but i've had limited success with this for 1-2 mins at a time....

bogeyman02 03-04-2008 08:22 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
This is probably the only thing I have disliked about Sprint. I had ATT in the Portland are, and on their 3G you could have a voice phone call and browse the internet. Ick for Sprint on this one.

InvincibleLiving 03-04-2008 08:27 PM

Re: Data and Voice same time with rev A
 
be patient, just like everything else with our phones, either they will eventually enable this or we'll find a way to jailbreak it lol....


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