HTC Ozone
 

Been dying to find out more information on this device - I'm in need of a new phone and this showed up yesterday.

has one one had a chance to play with it? Is this a completely new device, or just new to Verizon?

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i have one being shipped over night tonight and i will let all know what i think of it.

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im getting one shipped as-well. ill post too.

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Got mine today. I had a pretty busy day so I had to be a grown up and not spend a lot of time with it. My initial review is positive. I like the feel of the materials, weight and size. The keyboard seems solid as well.

Setup was pretty smooth. I use wireless sync which was a little tricky as they don't preinstall it. There isn't a lot of built-in customization available which was previously reported so I am looking forward to having some time to get to work on it. The phone seems pretty responsive with very little lag in program execution.

I'm coming from an XV 6900 that was fully redone and a Moto Q before that. Blackberry isn't an option for me due to my additional software needs. As far as a WinMo phone so far so good.

More to come.

By the way, with a new every two discount, the phone was free. How can you beat that?

Also use the FREEOVERNT coupon code for free next day shipping.

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Getting my Ozone today after being a long time Q user. Looking forward to any tweaks people post!

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HTC OZONE UNBOXING

FedEx delivered my HTC Ozone around 11:30 this morning. First off this thing feels very comfortable in my hand despite it being about 2.5 centimeters wider than my ppc6700. It reminds me a lot of the Motorola Q with a lot less suck. Coming from a touchscreen PPC6700 running WinMo 6.1 Proffessional, the navigation is not as intuitive with the Ozone; but those with non touchscreen experience will be very familiar with the interface. The 5 way navigation is very easy on the fingers with 4 direction "bumps" letting you know you have reached the up/down left/right positions. Turning the phone on there is recognition of the Sim cards instalations and it sets the phone into global mode. Prompting for activation of the device on the network. The keys feel like a soft version of the Palm Pro's. They are a lot smller than my thumbs would care for but I had gotten used to it already. Aside from standard globe trotting assecories, multi country power adapters that is, it comes with this really neat audio device called a multifuntion audi cable. As the Ozone does not have standard headphone or hands free jacks the adapter connects to the bottom mini usb port creating four additional connetions to the phone a usb audio, a handsfree, a standard headphone, and a charging port. The phone does support up to 16 GB micro SD cards. to get to the access port you must remove the battery cove and it is conviniently located on the bottom right corner. The 2 MP camera takes pretty decent pictures in the daylight, with both brightness and white balance controls and a 2x zoom. No flash means no party pics at the Fourth o' July hotel party. The speaker phone quality is superb in my opinon, with no significant squlching or cutouts. The wifi tested out great with both b and g signals. The Rev A EVDO connections was pretty amazing as well. Speakeasy.net had my signal burst at 2.3 mbps. Other than that, expect your usuall WinMo apps. One cool app worth mentioning is the Streaming Media app with full rtsp:\\ support. Streaming live tv from Orb was very smooth with absolutley no buffering once play was started.As for the GPS goes, The ozone is the first verizon Phone with open gps. This is real gps not A-gps. I tested it with Googles mobile map application. Amazingly, it connected to 6 satelites in about 1 minute from insidey apartment. I will test it out with TomTom Navigator later.


To get DUN working with the blazing fast REV A you must do the standard ##PST edit to your login information. You will notice a new login for ppp change that as well to urphone#@vzw3g.com. now ICS control does NOT work nor does WMWIFIROUTER. but usb tethering is wicked fast. I am posting from my phone DUN now and i will post pics in a sec
http://img194.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc02633x.jpg this is the link to my photos
feel free to give thanks

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after some 6 hours of research i have found why icscontrol does not work. the program was written, as i understand from the xda forums, on the basis of a touchscreen end userie WinMo proffessional. This is why it wont work. However, installing the ICS cab from this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...=tethering+vzw seems to make wmwifirouter work. I may have to splurge and buy wifirouter if the developer doesn't fix ICS for the Ozone. I would much rather donate to him than wmwifirouter.

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HI i have attempted to dump the bin. Here it is for the initiated/knowledgeable i used a tool from xda to do this so i hope it is what ppl need to start customizing their OZONE/Snap
http://cid-2358cd65f286c45d.skydrive...TC%20XV6175.7z

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For some reason my phone is not picking up RA its just EVDO. My DUN had
urphone#@dun.vzw3g.com so we should change that?

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Verizon just shipped out a FREE Ozone my way because I've had 2 malfaunctioning Omnias. Although I haven't actually seen the phone in person yet I'm excited because it looks part Blackberry (which I won't purchase because I don't get the hype) and part Moto Q (a phone I had a few years ago). The Omnia was a great phone-when it worked but it's a touchscreen. Previously, I had the xv6800 which I also loved. I sure hope I don't miss the touch capability.

I'll keep you all posted and hope you will do the same....

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So i spoke with vzw about Rev A. on ur phone you are not going to see an indicator that says ur in Rev A. It will continue to say EV. Your speed tests will prove it you are in a rev A area, which is almost like every major Metro Area. Yes you do need to change your DUN settings in the ##PST route. it should urphone#@vzw3g.com. If you use verizons Mobile Broadband Connect there is an indicator on the bottom of the screen that reads Rev.A after you connect.



For the uninformed the way to tether is about the same on the ozone as any other winmo device

on the keypad press ##778 go to edit view info> M.IP Default Profile> change your login to urphone#@vzw3g.com

unfortunatley, again ICS control does not work but wmwifirouter does still work.

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Hi, I am new to verizon, but not new at all to winmo phones. I used to be on AT&T, with a blackjack2, and had to do quite a bit of messing around to get ICS to work on it (Because, like Verizon, AT&T strips their phones of their built in features, then charge to "enable" them)

Now I am with Verizon (as of yesterday) on an HTC Ozone, trying to get ICS to work. I installed the CAB for IntShrUI (as it is missing by default) but I have a few issues. If I launch IntShrUI, I see no options under the "PC Connection" list. Which should be USB right? I also see nothing under "Network Connection".

I tried typing in ##778 but when I went to edit, it asked for an unlock code? EDIT: I went to view instead, and see my MIP Defualt Profile is already fine, so I guess I ignore this section.


Now I have a few options here... On my old Blackjack2, under settings, connections, I had a "USB" option, not "USB > PC" like on the Ozone, and in there you could tell it how to use the USB. I could choose modem, or activesync. If I set it to modem, and had the modem drivers installed on my PC, then I could manually connect via the dial-up connection in vista. If I left it on activesync, I could just go to internet connection sharing, choose USB, and it would connect right away fine.

Also, not sure how much anyone knows about this, but when I got the phone, the verizon guy was cool and basically said that there is a way to trick Verizon's VZAccess program. You would get the 30 day free trial, and once you install it you change a setting, and it would basically not switch off on their end when you call and cancel. You still having the program working fine, and they never got the memo to not allow you any more. Thus you never pay a cent (as it should be).

last option is using PDANet, which seems to ...sort of... work. It cuts in and out on me all the time.. so yeah.

I went ahead and got the free VZAccess trial as the guy said (will cancel here shortly) So if I can find the hack that guy told me about that is my best option. If not? I need to get ICS, or USB modem working. Preferably I want them all to work.. so I can pick and choose (as it should be again).

So, if someone can help me get ICS working, that would be great, and if anybody knows anything about the VZAccess glitch I can exploit, that would be cool as well.

Thank you all for any help you can give me, this is a great forum!

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Before you start using Internet Sharing, you need to go into EPST (##778 send) from the Phone Screen,

Choose Edit
Password= 000000,
Press View Info
Select M.IP Default Profile,
Edit DUN NAI and change it to yournumber@vzw3g.com (this should match the above 'NAI' setting.)

Phone will reset. Now try using ICS. Should work fine.

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Thanks, but I already did that. The ##778 menu is set up fine, but no connections are listed in ICS.

I went ahead and bought pdanet. working fine so far. Though I would still like to get this working for the heck of it.

Re: HTC Ozone
 

Have the new Ozone and love it, but I am looking to see if the business card reader application that is on the Touch Pro is available for the Ozone.

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Check again, DUN NAI needs to be edited from yournumber@dun.vzw3g.com to yournumber@vzw3g.com. Take out the "dun"

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wmwifirouter needs ICS to be installed for it to work. You start ICS first then start wmwifirouter. ICS does work on my Ozone. Options can not be changed in the drop-downs but when you hit connect. It will establish the connection. It works for both USB and WIFI via wmwifirouter.

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Yeah, so the issue is and has not been weather or not ICS works. And unless yoou are talking about using Wmwifi router as a wifi connection to USB or 3G to USB (I have not tested these) you do not "need" ICS. The WMwifirouter program is suffiucent enough. I know for a fact that you do not need it for any of the other connection features.

The program in question is ICSControl NOT ICS. ICS control gived the user the ability to use ICS in all the fuctions that wmwifirouter now does. And its free. I know that ICS works on the Ozone. ICS control does not work for the reasons mentioned earlier.


Also ICS is for creating a NDIS connection on your computer. Using the modem link creates a Dial up connection. The only real difference between the two is that the NDIS assumes a 10MBPS connection while the Dial up connection assumes at most a 921 Kbps connection. However if you open your task manager while using the Dial up connection provided by the Modem Link program, the max speed assumeed increases as you request more bandwith up until the cap. I have maxed out on 1.95 MBPS on both the Dial up Modem link connection and the NDIS ICS connection.

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So, how do you get an ICS connection without VZ access manager? I use ICS control on my XV6900 and it works fabulously. What's the trick to tethering on the Ozone with ICS control?

Many thanks!

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Again rhetoric issue here. ICS works fine on the Ozone. ICS control, that nifty program written that will allow you to route your data connection to wifi, Bluetooth or usb does not work on the Ozone. I used ICS CONTROL on my Xv6700 and it work perfectly.

There is no "trick" to get ICS to work on the Ozone. It works with the program called "modem link" after you of course change your DUN settings. However, it is a dial up connection and it doesnt like to burst the full Rev-a speed. You don't "need" VZW access manager. All VZWAM does is create a dial up connection in windows. you can do all this manually. I don't like VZWAM because i feel there is a way for them to track your tethering usage. Create a new dial up connection and make the phone number #777 and the usual credintials and you are set.
To get the NDIS connection that will allow you those rev-a bursts you need to install ICS on the ozone. If you use it instead of modem link, your computer will automatically detect the NDIS connection and allow our to receive the full rev-a speeds.

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I think the issue you are having inst related to your settings. Ignore the blank categories and just start the connection. It is a minor nuisance but the program still works.

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I keep hearing everyone talk about ICS and ICS Control, but I don't see anywhere we can actually download on Ozone? Where would I find the software? What is the process for setting up on my PC to run as a tethered modem? Sorry if I'm a novice at this, it's just something I've been interested in using recently.

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Just downloaded PDA net and tried it on the ozone. getting 1.3Mb download, 296Kb upload. Is that full Rev A speed?

HTC Ozone
 

Please include this phone soon!

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I'm a newbie here, But have flashed my old 6700 and 6800 as well as fiddled with my Omnia (very Cool Phone), but I can seem to figure the Ozone out. I have ICS installed and see it on the programs menu but when I open it the categories are blank AND the "Connect" option is grayed out. Any Ideas? Also when I try the "Modem Link" from the programs menu my computer keeps asking for a driver to be installed. Cant seem to find that one either. Any help with this would be appreciated.

My Setup:
XP on a Dell Lattitude D510
ActiveSync 4.5
HTC Ozone
ICSInstall.cab

Thanks!

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Any luck getting this to show the connections? I tried to install the router program and it says unsuccessful and wont let me install it so my intshrui doesnt work and show a connection type. I did fix my DUN

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Hi all, I am playing around with a friends new Ozone, and can not get ICS to work.

So I edit the DUN settings as shown in this quote below, and not only get the same results with ics, but then the phone will not connect to the net with internet explorer.

the only change I make is to change mynumber@dun.vzw3g.com to mynumber@vzw3g.com. Basicaly backspace the dun. out!!! After making the change, the net on the phone does not work, changing the setting back does not fix it? I have to hard reset it to get it back


Not sure what to do? Am I missing something? Do you guys have any sugestions?

Thanks in advance for any help

Best

Chris

update--> OK played with it again today, and find that the net does work, just the default home page does not work. LOL... Just assumed that it did not work. So I can get ICS to connect, but it does not share the internet connection. I can not get wmwifirouter to work, it will not actualy create the adhoc network. I can however get DUN through the bluetooth to work at modem speeds.


update 2--> So gave up on this. Flashed winmo6.5 rom, ICS is already on it and works fine. wmwifirouter still does not work, but what can I do?


Thanks again for any help!!!

Chris

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Hey thanks tarheelB&B! i had been on the phone with verizon and in a store today for hours and all they wanted me to do was Hard Reset my device till it magically fixed itself, just dialed ##778 and plugged in the numbers for NAI and DUN NAI in the M.IP default profile and it worked right away

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Here you guys go: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=133

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Now that I have pdanet working, it told me to use the WIFI radio as a wireless router that I had to set it up the network. What I don't understand is how to use the phone untethered as a wifi router. Any posts/ideas would be great. I'm running Win XP Pro on a Lenovo T61.

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Does a person have to pay more to access the gps? I believe I have unlimited data, can I access the gps with that? How do I do that? Thanks from a clueless ozone user!

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Fortunately for you the Ozone IMHO is one of the most accessible open GPS phones. It is completely free. You can use any location aware app for windows mobile with it including Google Maps, Bing, Tom Tom. To Start Download Gmaps or Bing. Make sure u use the QuickGPS app on your phone. It somehow reduces the time it takes to get a gps fix. After doing all that make sure the option to use the gps is checked in what ever application you use.



Now USE of the GPS does not necessarily cost you. If you have the TomTom app you will never incur a data cost while using the GPS. But since you are with Verizon you're getting raped for data usage anyway, lol.

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Just received my ozone today. It my first company phone. The down side is i'm coming from my Touch Pro and my wife picked up her new Droid...yes my wife's phone is cooler than mine. A sad day indeed.

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my ozone GSM is out of service since i travled outside US, can any one tell me how to switch to global network settings

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Anyone know a good app for live tv on the ozone? Thanks.

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Most of the Droid owners I know, have it because its "in"... I asked one younger guy I know what his did special, and he said text and Facebook....I put on my best "shocked" face... heh

http://media.techeblog.com/images/et...ommercials.jpg

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Re, the droid I agree and came away with that impression from trying it in the store. I was surprised by the sharp corners, not softly rounded like a newer device should be.
Somethings been bugging me about my ozone's kb backlite. No matter what I set it for I can only get about 7 or 8 sec before timeout. I've tried ticking the auto adjust or not and set the time for none or 30 sec or whatever and it just won't change.(](*,)) It's certainly not a deal breaker, just an annoyance. I got it new on ebay, the rest of it is fine. I upgraded it to 6.5 right out of the box so I dunno if it had this affliction with the 6.1. There's got to be a reg edit. I follow directions well if anyone can point me. Thanks for any thoughts on the issue.

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I had never noticed... Mine seems to be on a similar time table but I never really thought about it or tested that until you mentioned it...Im mainly a text, calendar and email user so i havent needed it for any longer than stock... If I see something though Ill be sure to link...

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Yeah, it seems to be a flatly non functional adjustment. The screen lite works as set so I dunno. Surprised you didn't notice. When texting or emailing which I use alot, a brief pause is all it takes for the backlit keys to go dark. A mild annoyance for an otherwise awesome little device. I F'd up and had my first hard reset yesterday when I installed "battery plus pro". I was going to trial the standard v. And it said 6.0 supported, so I was a little nervous about putting it on, and as it turned out it was a bad idea. Once on it didn't work properly and then it wouldn't remove properly. Live and learn, then I thought maybe a HR will fix the kb lite issue....Nope. :(

Hey outlaw, what v. of opera mini works best on the ozone? I used a vga friendly v5 on my imagio and tp2 that worked well with those screens, I gotta check around, but was curious what a longtime ozoner is using.