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:banghead:ok just a little pointer here also. dont be testing the sleep mode if you have the usb plugged in. took me about 4 resets to figure out that the usb keeps it awake

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That is normal because remember you are not deleting the Messages app you are only turning off the notifications, I prefer it now showing on any of my Scene Pages, perhaps you could do the same.

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just do a hard reset and start over. i did, and its working perfect. im just getting the one notification from the handcent app... just hard reset ....

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It appears that the USB keeps it awake only when charging. Once it's at 100% it appears to be able to sleep. I had mine on the charger all night and when I woke up this morning, it had a little bit more "awake" time, but for the most part, it was sleeping all night

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Ok, so here's what I've got so far from about 8.5 hours off of the charger after making the above listed changes and utilizing Handcent as my default SMS app:

Off charger at 7:30AM with 100% charge
Current State at 4:00PM:
30% battery remaining
"Up Time" = 17h16min
"Awake Time" = 3h41min (21%)
Usage (phone calls, browser, etc) has been very light. No phone calls, a few texts incoming and maybe 4 minutes on the browser.
Automatic Usage is set up pretty much as frequently as possible (Exchange Server syncronization, Google Sync for mail, Facebook and Twitter updates are on most frequent selections, weather is fairly frequent and GPS is on all the time)

I think at this point yesterday, I was pretty much at a dead battery, so I do believe that the Handcent workaround is doing SOMETHING. I guess my question to whoever can provide insight is this:

Shouldn't and Awake Time of 21% conserve quite a bit more battery than an Awake Time of 100%? Don't get me wrong, wtih the frequencies that I have all of the applications updating/refreshing I would expect the battery to not last quite as long as if none of the stuff was updated that frequently, however, I was just thinking that with such a difference in awake times, the battery would last quite a bit longer.

Personally, with everything that is going on with my phone, if I can squeeze 12 hours out of it w/o a charge, I'm pretty happy. Am I setting the bar too low? What is everyone else seeing with this kind of usage and updating? LIke I said, 12 hours, to me, isn't too bad, but if other people are getting 14-16 hours with the same usage i'd like to hear some tips.

Thanks guys.

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Is a hard reset restoring to factory defaults or taking the battery out?

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Restoring to factory defaults

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Boo to that! I've put too much time in so far.

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I'll definitely give this a try because my battery life sucks and my awake time is 95%. I hope this helps. I'll report back tomorrow to see if I notice any differences.

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i have unchecked the proper options and it has helped quite a bit but the battery life still sucks. had it charging all night till about 8am. its now 1p.m and im at 65% life left. my awake time is only 24% so its doing what its supposed to, jus think the bigger and better phones gets the less and less life we will get, too much screen and apps for the smaller batteries to handle, but i cant complain i dont have a mogul anymore. just my $.02

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In another test today, i have left all settings the exact same, with the 1 change of shutting GPS off, and it seems to have made quite a difference (i kind of figured it would); All other location settings (mobile network connected, location based off wifi, location based off towers, etc) are on all the time, but the GPS really seems to help. While turning the other settings off can have some effect on different programs (Facebook, Twitter, Weather), turning GPS off doesn't effect anything (other than accuracy of location) until you need it.

I am on 5 hours off charger and only lost 30%. I'll update later to see where I'm at.

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I tried do everything except a hard reset last night and I couldn't get it to work. The Awake Timer was the same as the Up Timer no matter what I did. So I just went ahead and hard reset, didn't install anything, didn't sign in to any social networking features, didn't sign into google, nothing. Now the the phone would sleep and the timers were different. I put the phone on silent and left the radio on while I slept. When I woke up in the morning I checked it and I had received 6 SMS messages and my Awake Time was only 6%. Very good.
I went ahead and signed into google to get my contacts, email, and calendar. I downloaded Handcent and replied to all the SMS Messages. Tested the timers again, still good. But, I noticed my Google calendar didn't sync. I told it to re-sync and a few minutes later I noticed it had. Then I noticed my Awake Timer wasn't stopping when I would put it to sleep.
So I just hard reset and I'm going to go through it again but not sync my google calendar and see if that changes anything.

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I actually preferred the stock sms app but not at the cost of battery life. I did the fix and awake time went from 95% to 16% battery is going strong still 6 hrs into my day its amazing. HTC better get on an update fast the average consumer will never know about this and will think the Hero has worse battery life than it really does.

One small gripe. Handcent doesn't seem to update sms while the convo is open I have to back out of the specific message and go back in is there a way to fix this I looked thru all the settings but maybe I missed it.

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its sounds like what you did wrong was use the stock SMS program. When you hard reset again make sure to not even open the original SMS program instead go right to the market and download the handcent app. Also dont forget to uncheck Auto-retrieve and notifications .

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well i guess you do have to open the original SMS program but just to uncheck those two things....

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Yeah, thats all I opened it for. I didn't check the messages or anything.

Since I hard reset this morning it's been great. I installed a couple more apps from the app store, and have logged into twitter but not facebook. I'll try that next as well as set up my yahoo mail account. I've noticed much better battery life just over the 6-7 hours its been working properly.

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The stock messages app will only prevent your phone from sleeping when you send a message using it. Hope that helps.

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My usage is at 8 percent using handcent! I am thinking of just deleting the stock MMS icon, so I don't see the little 1 in the icon. When I get a text within handcent, it turns my screen on, whereas the stock mms app made the audible notification, but kept the screen off. Is there a way to make handcent ring, but not turn the screen on?

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Open handcent app , press menu, setting, go down to pop up settings, unchecke screen on for pop up.

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Just found it, handcent has a ton of options. Thanks!

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No problem... yeah it has a lot of options.

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Well...when all was said and done....not really sure how/why, but by 6pm (approximately 10 hours off charger) i was down at 10% battery. Not sure how, but turning GPS off apparently didn't have any effect on battery life. I'm going to still tinker with settings, but what is everyone else getting for life?

Again, Facebook and Twitter update every 30 minutes and I have both widgets on the screens, weather updates automatically, I have Exchange Server setup grabbing items "as they arrive" and my location is on at all times. I realize that all of these things contribute to battery drain, and I'm not really complaining about 10 hours off a charge with all of those things going, but I'm just curious if anyone else has all these settings similar with moderate use of the device and what their battery life is.

From what I understand, 1.6 actually includes a power status grid with it so that you can identify what is killing the battery. That'll be nice.

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Ok I am thoroughly impressed I took my phone off the charger at 10am and now 14 hrs later at 12am I am at 9%. I have been using the phone moderately text web little gps and music with one exchange account running downloading every hour and Twitter every 30 mins. This is far beyond my expectations coming from the TP

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Anyone syncing their calendar with Google and still having their device sleep properly?

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Yup, synching my calendar here and no problems.

Did you update your voicemail software package?

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No I haven't updated my voicemail software. Whats that have to with this?

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Because you may think your phone is still not going to sleep after the handcent work out but in reality the voicemail app (the old one) also keeps the phone awake.

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My phone is going to sleep properly until I sync my Google Calendar. I know this by checking my Awake Time compared to the Up Time. After I sync the Awake Time never stops counting. I'll update the voicemail but I doubt I'll sync my calendar with google until Sprint releases a fix.

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It seems as though mine wouldn't also stop counting after I attempted contact sync through HTC Sync.

It definitely was not voicemail (in my case at least) because i have confirmed that it went to sleep both before and after stock voicemail update.

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When you first open the voicemail program there should automatically be an update for you to do. The new version should be vn.5.0.0.32

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Ok so my hero has been sleeping properly for the last few days until I just checked it and saw that the awake time was 100%. Here's what I think the problem is and I would like to know if its causing anyone else's hero to stay awake.

I add the people widget from the HTC widget section and add contacts with the default action as sending an sms. The device will sleep fine up to this point. The problem is when I select a contact to send a sms. When I do this a selection box pops up and asks if I want to use Handcent or the stock messaging app. Of course I pick Handcent, type my message and send it. Then I notice my awake time never stops counting.

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Hi all I notice using automatic task killer and kill all tasks with the exception of handcent sms, mail, web and clock my awake time is 41%. I haven't charge all day going on for 14 hours.

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I applied this fix last night and it's making a HUGE difference in battery life......along with disabling GPS and extending the frequency of the Hero checking email. I set 1 account to manual, 2 accounts to hourly and 1 to 30 minutes. This time yesterday I was already on the charger and then again on the way home. I charged up last night, took the phone off the charger around 11:30 and it's at 60-65 % right now. Thanks for the fix!!

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I've got something else keeping the phone "awake" is there a utility I can use to see what's keeping the phone awake? I am using centsms and that worked, however I have added a handful of other programs since and short of removing them all one at a time waiting a few days and trying again is there a faster way?

Thanks,
TL

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Does anyone know of a quick way to fully discharge my battery without harming the battery and waiting for it to just die?

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Could always use a data intensive app like pandora and mute the speaker. That'll knock her out REAL quick. haha.

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Lol sadly thats the fastest way ive found to kill it, and run google maps with gps and pandora in background, but im looking for more like a paperclip in the positive and negative trick lmao...just one that wont kill me...

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This should probably be stickied by the mods until a fix is issued, right?!

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i don't know if anyone mentioned this before, but when you charge your phone through the computer USB, your phone is "awake" while it's being charged. but when you charge it through the wall outlet, it's in "sleep" mode. so if you charge it on through your computer, your "awake" time is going to go up.

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Well, I have a brand new Hero from Cellular South...just started selling them yesterday. Added Handcent, disabled notifications in the stock sms.

Battery seemed to drain too fast (arbitrary observation on my part).

So, installed TasKiller this morning...guess what I saw running??? "Messages"!!! Killed it.

Now, if I send a message through Handcent, then "Messages" does not appear in the running list BUT if I receive a text...and only Handcent alerts, btw..."Messages" appears again in the list of running programs.

I am confident I must be overlooking the obvious but stuck nonetheless.

Help!