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krnfrk6663 10-13-2009 10:09 PM

How does it compair to the TP2?
 
More so on functionality and stability. I know its going to be different the winmo, but I'm wondering if the jump is worth it. I am getting a TP2, coming from a TP, and I'm having a sinking feeling that it will be the same as the origional. So, anyone have any input? I debating on this pretty hard if the TP2 doesn't meet good expectations.

ObsoleteE 10-13-2009 10:12 PM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
I didn't own a tp or tp2 but I friggin love this phone. I had a touch. There is no comparison. Just go to Best Buy and play with one for a few mins. You'll know.

Rafy0003 10-13-2009 10:24 PM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Coming from a TP, There is NO competition. Not even Iphone. Seriously, That nice.

krnfrk6663 10-14-2009 03:10 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
How different is it? I know you can't install cab files. How is the feel from coming from winmo, to Android?

mlin 10-14-2009 03:23 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
If you're coming from a TP to a TP2 (for now) you won't be disappointed. While the TP2 is the successor, it is infinitely better than the original TP. As far as the Hero goes, I can't say. I have only played with one for a few minutes in the store and haven't formed much of an opinion from my limited experience.

j_j 10-14-2009 03:45 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
it doesn't have a hardware keyboard, but the onscreen keyboard is as good as it gets as far as an onscreen keyboard goes. Other than that android is amazing, I just wish this phone was rooted so I could install that wifi tethering app.

sumo911 10-14-2009 03:49 AM

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i have both, and im now replying to this post via the tp2. i wouldnt dream of doing the same on the hero. that being said, if one has an affinity for hardware keyboards (which may explain why one has a tp in the first place), then the tp2 is definitely the way to go. what convinced me to upgrade from the tp was mainly the screen size. that and the 'better' keyboard and speakerphone.

the hero is a nice device; and android...all gimmicks aside, definitely has much potential. but the fact that i can throw an .avi file or a .whatever file at one device and have it handle the task without a single hitch, while the other device has no foreseeable support for the same function...in my opinon, is a clear indication that one device is superior to the other in this regard (can we at least get vlc or mplayer support on android please? how long will it take to implement a linux based media player into a linux based 'mobile' OS?). plus, theres no 'real efficient' flash enabled brower like skyfire yet on the android platform, nor any 'real' voice guided navigation app such as tomtom,igo,garmin etc...which is, i reiterate, bountiful on WinMo. Am i the only one who thinks Android still has a lot of 'growing' up to do?

But, as i said...i guess it all boils down to user preference. And thats why im giving the hero to my meathead hubby, and keeping the tp2 for myself. lol. :D

krnfrk6663 10-14-2009 08:50 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
That is what I was worried about. A lot of things not working on it too well.

chocmatic 10-14-2009 09:32 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by krnfrk6663 (Post 1236874)
That is what I was worried about. A lot of things not working on it too well.

I don't know about a lot of things not working well. Like sumo said, "it comes down to preference"

I myself have been a WinMo user for years and didn't think I would ever switch to a difference OS. However, this phone in a sense is far superior to any windows mobile device that I have used over the years and trust me I have gone through a lot of phones, i changed phones like i change underwear (no pun intended).

For one, winmo users a lot of the time, if not all the time complain about battery life on winmo. As much as I use the phone any winmo device I had last me roughly 4-5 hours before I needed to charge it (that really sucked), but I really enjoyed winmo...so I just dealt with it. On this phone I'm able to peform the same funtions and the battery life last me 9+ hours with no need to charge it.

I know Sumo mentioned that this phone doesn't have a real efficient flash enabled browser, but if you really think about it....how efficient is Skyfire? Actually, find me one browser on winmo that does everything that the Hero's browser does in one. For flash you would need skyfire, if you wanted something simpler you might have to use, IE or Opera Mini or if you want somewhat of a full browsing experience that runs somewhat smooth you would go with Opera Mobile (no flash though).

Sprint navigation on this phone works great. No need for Garmin or Tom Tom when you get a free app that does all the functions those can do.

I could go and on... not trying to bash winmo. I still have my winmo phone at home in case I didn't like this device...from the looks of it though I wont be going back to winmo anytime soon. I have been really impressed with the android OS.

dmb60614 10-14-2009 10:00 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krnfrk6663 (Post 1235997)
More so on functionality and stability.

i just jumped from the titan to the TP2 and got a hero for my wife. i am playing with both of them. i like both of them. i dont find that the hero is more functional or stable. it is mostly just different. i havent had any major problems with either. i've only had some minor problems with opera mobile crashing on the TP2 and yahoo mail syncing on the hero. there are some cool features on the hero but i havent come across anything where i thought "i wish my TP2 could do that."

i like the TP2 a little bit more. i dont know if i like it $170 more, but the bigger screen is nice and while i do most of my typing with the onscreen keyboard it is nice to have a hardware KB as good as the TP2. also, it doesnt hurt that i am pretty familiar with tweaking winmo to get it do what i want. while the biggest difference between the devices for many seems to be the software, the decision for me came down to the hardware.

sumo911 10-14-2009 05:38 PM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chocmatic (Post 1236939)
Sprint navigation on this phone works great. No need for Garmin or Tom Tom when you get a free app that does all the functions those can do.

The app itself may be free, but Sprint does claim a monthly charge for the service if it is not already included in your plan. Although its a nice feature, it is entirely data/internet connection dependent, and thus, may not sit well with users w/o a data plan. Besides, the OP asked about the pro's and con's of each device, not its carrier and/or its services. The TP2 supports said apps out the box, whereas there is no foreseeable support for it in Android. Not that anyone really gives a sh!t about TomTom...but im just saying...its about the principle. LOL.

TP2 ALL DAY!:headbang:

faldiin 10-14-2009 08:24 PM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
I am baffled on the issue of playing videos. I have been watching Lexx on mine. No needed extra apps. They are WMV files from when I loaded them on my TP. I use the Astro File manager and then select the episode that I want. I found an issue with selecting videos on the Album site. It plays it right in the media player. Moved it to Full screen also.

As far as the Difference. I was going to get the TP2 and waited for this. I do miss my keyboard but besides that I love this phone. Even the Speaker phone blows away the TP. I don't have to use a stylus either is a bonus. Now there is times the screen does not recognize my touch but I had this issue with TP also. I would have loved to have the 3.7 screen especially without a physical keyboard.

Faldiin

chocmatic 10-14-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sumo911
Quote:

Originally Posted by chocmatic (Post 1236939)
Sprint navigation on this phone works great. No need for Garmin or Tom Tom when you get a free app that does all the functions those can do.

The app itself may be free, but Sprint does claim a monthly charge for the service if it is not already included in your plan. Although its a nice feature, it is entirely data/internet connection dependent, and thus, may not sit well with users w/o a data plan. Besides, the OP asked about the pro's and con's of each device, not its carrier and/or its services. The TP2 supports said apps out the box, whereas there is no foreseeable support for it in Android. Not that anyone really gives a sh!t about TomTom...but im just saying...its about the principle. LOL.

TP2 ALL DAY!:headbang:

Lol @ tp2 all day. I can't knock you for liking the phone or winmo. I myself have been a loyal winmo user. True, they do charge an additional fee to use it. However, you need an everything data plan for this phone which includes the gps nav fee etc. Quick question have you tried the standalone gps on the tp2...i know in the past htc has said that standalone works, when infact it doesn't. Winmo should have an app for everything it has been out for years. That being said...android has a real good amount of apps for the short time that it has been out. Btw, I'm responding from the hero browser :-p.

sumo911 10-15-2009 03:38 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
I have successfully used the standalone feature of the gps chip in the Vogue, Mogul, Touch Diamond and even the Touch Pro in the past. Granted, its takes forever to get a lock sometimes, but it does work. Havent tried it on the tp2 yet, but judging from past experiences and it being basically the same chip..id say it should work fine.

chocmatic 10-15-2009 10:12 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumo911 (Post 1238298)
I have successfully used the standalone feature of the gps chip in the Vogue, Mogul, Touch Diamond and even the Touch Pro in the past. Granted, its takes forever to get a lock sometimes, but it does work. Havent tried it on the tp2 yet, but judging from past experiences and it being basically the same chip..id say it should work fine.


Cool. I checked the htc site but neither the tp2 or hero say they're gps or aGps, all they say is they have internal gps antenna

sklathill 10-15-2009 10:38 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumo911 (Post 1237777)
The app itself may be free, but Sprint does claim a monthly charge for the service if it is not already included in your plan. Although its a nice feature, it is entirely data/internet connection dependent, and thus, may not sit well with users w/o a data plan.

Worth noting that the sprint navigation service is now part of the everything data plans that Sprint has. Kind of surprised by that! Not that I've used it much, because I recently transferred my preferred Winmo GPS software (Copilot Live 8) license from winmo to android. Really excellent stuff.

Also, to the dude above... GPS locks are significantly faster on the Hero than on the Titan or Touch Pro. Pretty close to instant lock on cold start (~1-2 secs for the my location dot to appear in Google Maps), even in my apartment, and it's definitely a lock and not a mobile network or partial satellite estimation. No experience with TP2.

chocmatic 10-15-2009 10:48 AM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sklathill (Post 1238735)
Worth noting that the sprint navigation service is now part of the everything data plans that Sprint has. Kind of surprised by that! Not that I've used it much, because I recently transferred my preferred Winmo GPS software (Copilot Live 8) license from winmo to android. Really excellent stuff.

Also, to the dude above... GPS locks are significantly faster on the Hero than on the Titan or Touch Pro. Pretty close to instant lock on cold start (~1-2 secs for the my location dot to appear in Google Maps), even in my apartment, and it's definitely a lock and not a mobile network or partial satellite estimation. No experience with TP2.


Good to know. I was looking at copilot and it looks real smooth.

dannzeman 10-18-2009 07:38 PM

Re: How does it compair to the TP2?
 
I just got done using the Touch Pro 2 for a month and sent it back to try out the Hero. In one sentence: I'm glad I did.
I really liked the TP2, but I like the Hero even more. I would say Android is just as, if not more so, stable than the TP2. I've only used the Hero for 3 days now but I haven't had it lock, or freeze, or slow down enough to where I had to restart it.

Its hard to comment on the functionality because it depends what apps you use on WinMo and if they're available on Android. The exact same app might not be available but I'm sure there are other options to completing the same task. And thats what it comes down to, being able to adjust to completing tasks in a slightly different manner. The web browser is great, as good as anything available for WinMo, imo. Email is very good, GMail integration is top notch. Everything you can do on a computer with Gmail is available on the phone. The only thing I've seen people have a problem with is downloading attachments. One way I've got around this is setting up my yahoo account and when I need to download an attachment from an email I get from Gmail I just forward it to my yahoo and download it through that account. Kind of a hassle, but it works and I don't download attachments very often.

One thing I have to comment on is the software keyboard on the Hero. ITS AWESOME! I haven't missed the huge kb on the TP2 at all since I've sent it back.


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