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alvarez1980 01-05-2010 05:22 PM

using internet while on the phone
 
I know other providers let you use internet whileyour on the phone but Sprint has this blocked is there a way to get hero to do this . Thanks for help everyone on pox very helpfull

sHockz 01-05-2010 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alvarez1980 (Post 1463045)
I know other providers let you use internet whileyour on the phone but Sprint has this blocked is there a way to get hero to do this . Thanks for help everyone on pox very helpfull

Simply put...not possible.

mconig78 01-05-2010 06:02 PM

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I dont think I have ever come to a time when I had to use the internet and the phone at the same time unless I was tethering. And I think most ATT customers had no idea they could do it either untill they saw the commercial. it seems pointless to me

diablo3111 01-05-2010 06:03 PM

Re: using internet while on the phone
 
mine works perfectly while on the phone
i usually have to look up stuff
use dolphinbrowser or steel dat shoudl help perfectly

athlet1c 01-05-2010 06:06 PM

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i remember with my blackberry's some of them would work some would not. i have used it before , but unable to get it to work on my hero unless im using wifi.any tips please let me know

diablo3111 01-05-2010 06:10 PM

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yeah i had issues wit dat before
idk it seems to work fine on my 1.1 freshhh

athlet1c 01-05-2010 06:30 PM

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not for me . you must be one of the chosen ones.lol

lilbitz_1018 01-05-2010 07:07 PM

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guys this isn't possible. as CDMA users it stops the connection to be used by voice. ATT & Tmobile are GSM which will allow them to use both (ie. Sidekicks stay on aim during voice calls) I've tried a million ways to mimic these things in the past because I would need internet to do things such as orders while talking to people and it just wont work unless you have Wifi active.

that's just from experience...and i just tried it again lol.

Vertigo 01-05-2010 07:37 PM

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not possible atm... but hopefully we will have this feature by the end of this year?!?


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=80011

DirtyD24 01-05-2010 10:44 PM

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that would be veru useful...IE..your talking to someone and they need an address while your talking and you can put them on speaker then goto googlemaps and search the location and phone number that would be awesome

DirtyD24 01-05-2010 10:45 PM

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sorry...little drunk...spelling errors

bradart 01-05-2010 11:03 PM

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Yeah CDMA radios are not capable of simultaneous transmission and reception of EVDO and 1x. Sorry. No Sprint phone ever has, probably no Sprint phone ever will. Same with Verizon. This is a "Feature" of GSM.

heydjbobby74 01-05-2010 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diablo3111 (Post 1463168)
mine works perfectly while on the phone
i usually have to look up stuff
use dolphinbrowser or steel dat shoudl help perfectly



So how can diablo get on the net whilest talking on the phone, but no one else in the ENTIRE universe of Sprint can? Not even Sprint's CEO can do it, and he's on TV!!!

alvarez1980 01-06-2010 12:00 AM

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Everyone thanks for your input i really was hoping. It was possible cause i always need my map and looking things up at differnet times .... But i guess i will have to do with out that feature u just thought that's the hero was capable of doing that again thanks everyone

athlet1c 01-06-2010 12:33 AM

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Come to think of it my bb was on the nextel side thenhat was back in and that was in 2006

bradart 01-06-2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by athlet1c (Post 1464105)
Come to think of it my bb was on the nextel side thenhat was back in and that was in 2006

iDen is outside the range of my knowledge, mostly because it sucks. It is entirely possible that iDen was capable of this, or you may have been using CDMA for voice and iDen for data (or the inverse of that) because most sprint/nextel blackberries are dual mode.

athlet1c 01-06-2010 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bradart (Post 1464237)
iDen is outside the range of my knowledge, mostly because it sucks. It is entirely possible that iDen was capable of this, or you may have been using CDMA for voice and iDen for data (or the inverse of that) because most sprint/nextel blackberries are dual mode.

You are probaly right . this was the time Sprint was experimental with there dual phones. BB7100 which they just retired last year

Csquare 01-06-2010 09:59 AM

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Lilbitz is right! This is a limitation of CDMA. GSM does not have this limitation. Now, with the adoption of WiMax or LTE, this would be possible. More so with LTE as this would allow both to be done using the network and not WiFI.

diablo3111 01-06-2010 02:22 PM

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lol ive never rly needed to use it tho haah

clockcycle 01-06-2010 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alvarez1980 (Post 1463045)
I know other providers let you use internet whileyour on the phone but Sprint has this blocked is there a way to get hero to do this . Thanks for help everyone on pox very helpfull

Humm, sorry I don't know where you got that info from. But as far as I know Sprint doesn't "block" voice + data capabilities.

Also, there is only one carrier's network infrastructure that is capable of voice+data (high speed) and that's AT&T.

The only way you can possibly get both simultaneous voice+data (high speed) is if you have a Google Voice account and use it instead of your Sprint number/service, as it is essentially VOIP through your data connection.

I.E. Voice/SMS travels over the 1X portion of the service, on the other hand, data (high speed) is over EVDO. You do, and can get "data", albeit slow over 1X.

Hope that helps,

-CC

clockcycle 01-06-2010 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bradart (Post 1463901)
Yeah CDMA radios are not capable of simultaneous transmission and reception of EVDO and 1x. Sorry. No Sprint phone ever has, probably no Sprint phone ever will. Same with Verizon. This is a "Feature" of GSM.


Not entirely true, the only carrier that is capable of simultaneous high speed Data+Voice is AT&T that I know of at this time. T-Mobile is GSM and it is not capable of both at high speed.

-CC

lilbitz_1018 01-06-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by clockcycle (Post 1465211)
Not entirely true, the only carrier that is capable of simultaneous high speed Data+Voice is AT&T that I know of at this time. T-Mobile is GSM and it is not capable of both at high speed.

-CC

Regardless, they're able of an active connection during voice calls. He was stating that its not capable for sprint at all (Ev or 1x)

and to my knowledge (could be wrong) they're not ONLY allocated to data using EV and voice using 1x because what happens when you have low coverage? it goes to 1x...and my internet still works at that point.

Vertigo 01-06-2010 04:00 PM

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Enhancements quadruple the voice capacity of existing CDMA2000 1X networks
COSTA MESA, CA — August 17, 2009 — The CDMA Development Group (CDG) today announced that the specifications for CDMA2000® 1X Advanced have been completed and published by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2). 1X Advanced allows 3G CDMA operators to significantly increase the voice capacity of their CDMA2000 1X network by taking advantage of several interference cancellation and radio link enhancements. Among these improvements are base transceiver station (BTS) interference cancellation, improved power control, early frame termination, and smart blanking. 1X Advanced enhancements can be integrated all at once or in phases, offering operators an evolutionary approach to expanding existing networks based on their individual market needs. The complete set of 1X Advanced enhancements can theoretically quadruple the voice capacity of CDMA2000 1X systems in the same 1.25 MHz of spectrum.


“Both large and small CDMA2000 operators will benefit greatly from the voice capacity gains enabled by 1X Advanced,” said Perry LaForge, executive director of the CDG. “In addition to lowering the average cost per call for more affordable voice services, 1X Advanced also frees up channels to deliver 1xEV-DO broadband data services. Additionally, as operators consider augmenting their 3G CDMA networks with LTE and Mobile WiMAX, 1X Advanced will enable them to get more out of their existing circuit-switched voice networks for as long as needed.”


1X Advanced builds on the CDMA2000 1X technology platform, which has been providing superior voice quality and capacity for more than ten years. Operators can now transition to 1X Advanced gradually and economically, while sustaining backward compatibility. The spectral efficiency of the 3GPP2 standard has been recently enhanced with advanced voice codecs like Enhanced Variable Rate Codec-B (EVRC-B) and the use of quasi-linear interference cancellation (QLIC) techniques, which are already providing up to 50 percent higher voice capacity in today’s networks. The next step would be to move to 1X Advanced, which is a simple channel card upgrade (expected to be commercial in the second half of 2010) with new devices supporting mobile receive diversity, enabling them to more than double voice capacity immediately after the channel upgrade.


A complementary device enhancement known as simultaneous 1X Voice and EV-DO Data (SVDO) will also become available during the same timeframe and will enable CDMA2000 devices to access EV-DO packet data services while in an active 1X circuit-switch voice call. For example, users will be able to send emails or access the Web while on voice calls; phones with GPS can update maps or download real-time traffic information while on voice calls, etc. This device enhancement, which enables these concurrent voice and data services, is independent of the air link standard and infrastructure.

For more information, please visit www.cdg.org.

About CDMA2000

CDMA2000 is a widely deployed 3G technology, with 288 operators in 103 countries and territories serving 472 million subscribers. Counting 2G cdmaOne™ subscribers, there are over 480 million CDMA users worldwide. CDMA2000 1xEV-DO is a widely-deployed 3G CDMA (IMT-2000) solution offering mobile broadband to 120 million people across a wide range of devices. CDMA2000 has been chosen by operators in both developed and emerging markets, and is deployable in the 450, 700, 800, 1700, 1900, AWS and 2100 MHz bands. More than 2,110 CDMA2000 devices from over 115 suppliers have been introduced to the market, including more than 528 Rel. 0 and 118 Rev. A devices on 107 CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0 and 66 Rev. A systems. More information on CDMA2000 is available on the CDG Web site at www.cdg.org.

About CDG

The CDMA Development Group is a trade association formed to foster the worldwide development, implementation and use of CDMA2000 technologies. The more than 140 member companies of the CDG include many of the world’s largest wireless carriers and equipment manufacturers. The primary activities of the CDG include development of CDMA2000 features and services, public relations, education and seminars, regulatory affairs and international support. Currently, there are more than 500 individuals working within various CDG subcommittees on CDMA2000-related matters.

lilbitz_1018 01-06-2010 04:19 PM

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oh wow ok im too excited to read the whole thing AND understand it lol. is this shxt available yet?

takmsdsm 01-06-2010 04:35 PM

Re: using internet while on the phone
 
You can use the internet and make calls at the same time if you connect to a wifi spot.

arparent 01-07-2010 01:19 AM

Re: using internet while on the phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo (Post 1463443)
not possible atm... but hopefully we will have this feature by the end of this year?!?


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=80011

Not Possible. This isn't a phone feature, its the way CDMA networks are. The only way this is going to be a feature for sprint is if they either switch to GSM, or come up with an entirely new type of network.

If you want to use the internet while on the phone, turn on your wifi. :)

Vertigo 01-07-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arparent (Post 1466873)
Not Possible. This isn't a phone feature, its the way CDMA networks are. The only way this is going to be a feature for sprint is if they either switch to GSM, or come up with an entirely new type of network.

If you want to use the internet while on the phone, turn on your wifi. :)


A complementary device enhancement known as simultaneous 1X Voice and EV-DO Data (SVDO) will also become available during the same timeframe and will enable CDMA2000 devices to access EV-DO packet data services while in an active 1X circuit-switch voice call.
For example, users will be able to send emails or access the Web while on voice calls; phones with GPS can update maps or download real-time traffic information while on voice calls, etc. This device enhancement, which enables these concurrent voice and data services, is independent of the air link standard and infrastructure.

jonnythan 01-08-2010 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heydjbobby74 (Post 1463926)
So how can diablo get on the net whilest talking on the phone, but no one else in the ENTIRE universe of Sprint can? Not even Sprint's CEO can do it, and he's on TV!!!

You can do it with WiFi. Data will use WiFi while the Sprint connection will take care of the voice call.

bradart 01-08-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vertigo (Post 1468690)

A complementary device enhancement known as simultaneous 1X Voice and EV-DO Data (SVDO) will also become available during the same timeframe and will enable CDMA2000 devices to access EV-DO packet data services while in an active 1X circuit-switch voice call.
For example, users will be able to send emails or access the Web while on voice calls; phones with GPS can update maps or download real-time traffic information while on voice calls, etc. This device enhancement, which enables these concurrent voice and data services, is independent of the air link standard and infrastructure.

LOL!

Ok, for clarity's sake, Vertigo is TECHNICALLY correct but, at the present time, this is completely impossible, with the possible exception of a dual mode iDen/CDMA phone. Future, maybe, but now, not so much.

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jbearamus 01-08-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by arparent (Post 1466873)
or come up with an entirely new type of network.

i'm hoping for an EVDO voice Wimax data device, as far as i know those are still separate chips that will run simultaneously :D

thacounty 01-08-2010 11:00 PM

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or come up with an entirely new type of network.





i'm hoping for an EVDO voice Wimax data device, as far as i know those are still separate chips that will run simultaneously :D
That would be sick! Talk about video calling!



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jbearamus 01-08-2010 11:15 PM

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well maybe our dreams will come true, some sort of HTC wimax device landed in sprint's computer systems today....
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/s...hone-from-htc/

thacounty 01-09-2010 12:00 AM

Re: using internet while on the phone
 
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Originally Posted by jbearamus (Post 1472784)
well maybe our dreams will come true, some sort of HTC wimax device landed in sprint's computer systems today....
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/s...hone-from-htc/

Yea, but if you look at my Twitter you will see that I don't even have 3g yet in a pretty big market.

jbearamus 01-09-2010 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thacounty (Post 1472862)
Yea, but if you look at my Twitter you will see that I don't even have 3g yet in a pretty big market.

ouch, that's harsh, i thought Utah was supposed to be BFE but we've had 3G for years, not to brag, i'm just amazed

heydjbobby74 01-09-2010 08:36 AM

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I honestly think they pick and choose at their disposal despite what consumers want...lol

thacounty 01-09-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jbearamus (Post 1473080)
ouch, that's harsh, i thought Utah was supposed to be BFE but we've had 3G for years, not to brag, i'm just amazed

I would brag. 1x sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heydjbobby74 (Post 1473484)
I honestly think they pick and choose at their disposal despite what consumers want...lol

That is probably true.

jbearamus 01-09-2010 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thacounty (Post 1473639)
I would brag. 1x sucks.



That is probably true.

i couldn't even imagine...sorry man

and i was looking at population of various cities and while my home town of roy has a smaller population than BG, KY i was looking at google maps and it hit me, while UT may not be a very populous state compared to some, about 98% (about 2.6M) of utah residents are concentrated in a very small area, it is constant city from Logan to Provo only 125 miles so if you look at it as a whole, which i'm sure the carriers do, its a fairly large market

any way, i'm done rambling, sorry you're stuck on 1x county, hope sprint fixes that soon

thacounty 01-09-2010 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jbearamus (Post 1473967)
i couldn't even imagine...sorry man

and i was looking at population of various cities and while my home town of roy has a smaller population than BG, KY i was looking at google maps and it hit me, while UT may not be a very populous state compared to some, about 98% (about 2.6M) of utah residents are concentrated in a very small area, it is constant city from Logan to Provo only 125 miles so if you look at it as a whole, which i'm sure the carriers do, its a fairly large market

any way, i'm done rambling, sorry you're stuck on 1x county, hope sprint fixes that soon

That makes sense. I may be asking for help from you guys to use twitter and see if we can get it fixed haha.

jbearamus 01-09-2010 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thacounty (Post 1473971)
That makes sense. I may be asking for help from you guys to use twitter and see if we can get it fixed haha.

you can count me in :D

bradart 01-09-2010 03:45 PM

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That makes sense. I may be asking for help from you guys to use twitter and see if we can get it fixed haha.


you can count me in :D
I'm down for some noise making.



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