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lipidfats 06-28-2010 01:43 PM

All Discussions regarding the OTA update (Sprint re-released the update - 6/29)
 
Update: Sprint has removed the update because people were bricking their phones by installing it twice. When they re-release the update, only install it once. Installing it a second time will brick your device.

Update 2: Sprint has re-released the OTA update. Let us know if anything is different from the last one, besides it not bricking devices this time ;)

If you haven't received a notification for the updated update or it's not showing up when you search for it under settings, you can manually download it (thanks, themuffinman).

Positives:

-WiFi has improved in strength and signal. People are confirming that they get much faster speeds and some, better range. Not sure if wireless N has been activated, but it's certainly better.

- Screen now responds correctly to input when placed on a table or another surface. Before you had to be holding the device to access the uppder portion of the screen. Woo!

- Exchange Active Sync improvements, including fix to issues with new account setup, PIN policy usage and Exchange Calendar 2010 Sync.

- Addresses Facebook sync issue which can improve battery performance.

- scrolling/screen responsiveness in certain places improved imo. It just snaps like it's supposed to. Although lag in those areas seems to have improved, we still have the serious lag issues overall.

- some report better battery life, but I'm wondering if this relates to the facebook issue above. I've never used FB sync and I'm not noticing anything with battery, not yet.

Negatives:

- Prevents old root methods

- If you update, you can no longer disable sense for the Android 2.1 launcher (settings > apps > manage apps > htc sense > clear defaults/force close/home). Third party launchers still work i think.

- Breaks the shootme app (need root to get it to work just like other devices now). My guess is they meant to close permissions from the start (it's now like the droid incredible)

- It removes Android wallpapers. You still have htc, gallery and live wallpapers options.

- After updating, some widgets may appear broken. Simply remove and re-add them and they will function properly again.


If I missed anything, let me know.

rooster94 06-28-2010 01:45 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lipidfats (Post 1841873)
I know some of you guys like to use the android launcher over HTC Sense, so I thought i'd bring this to your attention. If you update, you can no longer disable sense, at least not the way we did before.

What if you download another launcher like Launcher Pro. Any way to set that as the default? If not I guess we will just have to wait on the custom ROMs. But I haven't updated yet anyway.

Donatom3 06-28-2010 01:50 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Interesting. When I first booted up after the update I was given the option of which launcher to use. Man too bad I can't change my mind now.

parousia15 06-28-2010 02:03 PM

Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
Even though I unchecked everything in the options and signed out. It keeps popping up in services after 5 minutes or so after killing it.

This update was suppose to improve battery life, but google talk is draining mine.

Anyone else?

UPDATE: I've been watching it for the last few hours. My phone sleeps properly. When it's asleep, it appears that gtalk is also in sleep mode and my battery does not drain while in sleep mode. When I am actively using my phone,however, the battery drops more quickly with it running in the services than not. I'll see how things are over the next few days. It's beginning to look manageable.

coppermine18 06-28-2010 02:30 PM

Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Be patient, mine rebooted 4 times and just sat on the update screen with no indicator twice after the 1st couple of times then rebooted itself and worked without me touching it.

Took at least 10 minutes.

nico4k 06-28-2010 02:33 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
I know, i thought my Evo got jacked up when i saw it do all this stuff, rebooting like 5 or 10 times. (specially when it took forever to pass the 4G logo on the first boot after the update)..lol

Donatom3 06-28-2010 02:35 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Also not to mention the 4G logo screen will stay there for a while. Plan to take up to 25 minutes people. Don't reboot unless you're told to or you go upwards of 25 minutes.

coppermine18 06-28-2010 02:37 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Yeah, I thought mine was bricked it wouldn't do anything and just sat there, it rebooted once and did the update, then once with a second indicator bar... then twice doing nothing and just sat there unresponsive.

This is the first phone I haven't wanted to up and swap roms, reload stuff on etc its been perfect since day one I didn't want it to ruin it!

Drac 06-28-2010 02:51 PM

Re: Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
flickr and stocks also restarted with me after killing everything. killed 'em all again and now will keep checking to see if they restart again.

supdawg 06-28-2010 02:53 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
So I downloaded the update and my phone has just been sitting here for 6 minutes. Is it working, or do I need to kick it off?

Donatom3 06-28-2010 02:54 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supdawg (Post 1842101)
So I downloaded the update and my phone has just been sitting here for 6 minutes. Is it working, or do I need to kick it off?

The whole process is about 15 minutes. You'll see 4 screens. Two rom loading screens, one with a progress bar one without, the HTC bootup screen, and the 4G bootup screen.

supdawg 06-28-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Been 10 minutes. Havent seen one thing on the screen after the update. Just being patient here.

AaronP220 06-28-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Hahaha. I'll do it on the wife's phone.

lipidfats 06-28-2010 02:59 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
i know someone that bricked theirs because it prompted hm to update twice. first went well, second bricked his phone - won't even let it charge. saw someone else on here that had the same problem. weird that they would even let you update twice. luckily, mine went smooth like butter!

stas333 06-28-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
what does this update do? its downloading right now, but i dont want to add another 21.5 mb of crap on my phone if i dont have to.
thanx

supdawg 06-28-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
When I download this file, does it just run automatically? Seems to me like it hasn't started yet. :(

Edit: Went back into settings and tried to download update again. This time it prompted me to install. Which I did. Damn I never got that pop up after the initial download so I just sat here for 15 minutes for NOTHING.

rainfreak 06-28-2010 03:02 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Go into settings/applications/manage applications and then go down to HTC Sense, and click it. Under Launch by Default, click the Clear Defaults button. Then go back to the Home screen and click the Home button. You should be prompted with a box to ask which you want to use.

lipidfats 06-28-2010 03:05 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainfreak (Post 1842118)
Go into settings/applications/manage applications and then go down to HTC Sense, and click it. Under Launch by Default, click the Clear Defaults button. Then go back to the Home screen and click the Home button. You should be prompted with a box to ask which you want to use.

thats waht im saying. you can't do that anymore. doesn't give "launcher" as an option now. maybe other launchers, but not the stock google one that was there before.

BRIVERS73 06-28-2010 03:07 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Maybe we should get a thread going for problems after the upgrade. The Google wallpaper is no longer available. The Shootme app no longer works (You now have to be rooted now)

lipidfats 06-28-2010 03:07 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stas333 (Post 1842115)
what does this update do? its downloading right now, but i dont want to add another 21.5 mb of crap on my phone if i dont have to.
thanx

improves wifi, fixes unresponsive screen when ungrounded, facebook networking battery fix, something for exchange too

does anybody think scrolling through apps is snappier now?? lag is still there elsewhere, but i feel like app scrolling is more on point.

OR78 06-28-2010 03:08 PM

Wirelessly posted (HTC Evo...SNAPPYDRAGON: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1-update1; en-us; Sprint APA9292KT Build/ERE27) AppleWebKit/530.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/530.17)

Did u sign out? If not, do so.

stas333 06-28-2010 03:08 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lipidfats (Post 1842134)
improves wifi, fixes unresponsive screen when ungrounded, facebook networking battery fix, something for exchange too

where did u find that info? i looked in htc and sprint, but nothing comes up for this update

coppermine18 06-28-2010 03:09 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supdawg (Post 1842117)
When I download this file, does it just run automatically? Seems to me like it hasn't started yet. :(

Edit: Went back into settings and tried to download update again. This time it prompted me to install. Which I did. Damn I never got that pop up after the initial download so I just sat here for 15 minutes for NOTHING.

lol that sucks, well you got to hang out in the forums? :mrgreen:

Donatom3 06-28-2010 03:10 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lipidfats (Post 1842128)
thats waht im saying. you can't do that anymore. doesn't give "launcher" as an option now. maybe other launchers, but not the stock google one that was there before.

Ahh so they removed the google launcher, but you still can change to a different launcher. This makes more sense. In your original post you made it sound like we can't disable the htc sense launcher. I can still switch to Launcher Pro.

pantherdaddy27 06-28-2010 03:17 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
i wouldnt do it at all if you have a rooted evo. you will lose everything and you will go back to stock rom and you will lose your root.
the custom roms will come out with there update and it will have the updates in it but without going back to stock rom.

stas333 06-28-2010 03:20 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
good thing that i dont have a root. actually, this phone is so nice out of the box compared to tp2 and others, that i didnt feel the need to root it.

pantherdaddy27 06-28-2010 03:22 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
yes it is but the root and the custom roms and you can get a better radio makes the phone alot more faster if you ca believe that or not it does mine flys compared to a stock evo

brownhornet 06-28-2010 03:24 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
The ONLY reason I rooted was to put the droid bootup animation & sound on my bootscreen. Im not flashing any roms... ill just wait until the stock rom w/ update is patched and flash it.

Donatom3 06-28-2010 03:24 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stas333 (Post 1842162)
good thing that i dont have a root. actually, this phone is so nice out of the box compared to tp2 and others, that i didnt feel the need to root it.

Only reason I root is for free wifi tethering.

bartendersimon 06-28-2010 03:25 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
I just did the update and i dont see any WIFI n Connection on my phone, I do have a wifi N router

kash23 06-28-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Update is nice. Do not panic like OP said. Phone will reboot a couple of times but this does not mean your phone is bricked like posted in other threads. Noticed after initially load up after update scrolling between home screens are a bit laggy but that eventually goes away. Apps are much snappier and screen is much more responsive to your touch(not that it was bad to begin with out the box) Overall im liking the new OTA update but i can't wait till FROYO!!:headbang:

pantherdaddy27 06-28-2010 03:29 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartendersimon (Post 1842173)
I just did the update and i dont see any WIFI n Connection on my phone, I do have a wifi N router

did you root your phone? if so and you did the update you lost it

rainfreak 06-28-2010 03:48 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
That does make more sense. I assumed he was wanting to use AW Launcher or Launcher Pro, not the stock Google launcher.

lipidfats 06-28-2010 03:49 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Donatom3 (Post 1842144)
Ahh so they removed the google launcher, but you still can change to a different launcher. This makes more sense. In your original post you made it sound like we can't disable the htc sense launcher. I can still switch to Launcher Pro.

ah k, well i'm not positive about third party launchers, but i updated the first post to reflect that i'm talking about default android 2.1 launcher.

Donatom3 06-28-2010 03:51 PM

Re: tip: OTA Update breaks disabling of HTC Sense
 
Yeah your title says " breaks disabling of HTC Sense" which is not true since you can disable it. It should read removes Stock Android Launcher.

stas333 06-28-2010 03:55 PM

Re: Sprint update needs up to 10 minutes plus to update - do not panic.
 
after the update, qik is updated to the blue ver (image), quick office is also updated.

myriam 06-28-2010 03:56 PM

Re: Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
Just install startup auditor from the market and check google talk to not open at startup and later (two separate check marks). It works as acharm. Never again opens. :angel4:

twilk 06-28-2010 04:01 PM

Re: Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myriam (Post 1842233)
Just install startup auditor from the market and check google talk to not open at startup and later (two separate check marks). It works as acharm. Never again opens. :angel4:

This is correct however, Gtalk will still pop up as active in your services tab. This is because it is related to your email.. I think! I have mine set to not sign in on start up and I sign out. However it still pops up. I am almost positive this is because its integrated with the email. Also just because its showing it does not mean your are signed in. Its not using more battery because you are not signed in. Trust me.

parousia15 06-28-2010 04:07 PM

Re: Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twilk (Post 1842240)
Also just because its showing it does not mean your are signed in. Its not using more battery because you are not signed in. Trust me.

I don't know...I'm currently at 58%. This is not normal for my phone. I usually don't reach that level until 6-7pm. It's currently 1pm where I live.

When I stop the service, battery is stable. When I notice it sinking rapidly, I check service and gtalk is running again.

It's the only that's different after the update (that I'm aware of) that has the potential to do this to my battery.

peepeesea 06-28-2010 04:16 PM

Re: Google Talk Keeps Reactivating After Update
 
i can confirm mine is doing the same thing...


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