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TheBundo 05-28-2010 12:35 AM

Posting from my $400 Evo
 
I took my wife along to drive so I could play with this new phone. Too early to tell yet, some things are great, some not so great.

apristel 05-28-2010 12:37 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
What are your likes and dislikes?

Congrats on the new phone btw.

FastRX8 05-28-2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778467)
some not so great.

Like what? Curious what's not so great.
Also, do you have any previous devices w/ Android or is this your first?

austintb 05-28-2010 12:51 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Nice buy dude!

twennywonn 05-28-2010 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778467)
I took my wife along to drive so I could play with this new phone. Too early to tell yet, some things are great, some not so great.

Nice cliffhanger...

Go into detail please

nuprotocol 05-28-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Yeh, we're going to need for you to report ASAP. lol

lipidfats 05-28-2010 01:35 AM

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heh so what's not so great?

fenixjn 05-28-2010 01:44 AM

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OP has not replied in over an hour, possible scenarios:

OP's wife found out about the plan and threw the phone out of the window
OP is still playing with the phone... is so amazing that he cant stop :)

princem131 05-28-2010 01:47 AM

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FedEx should be delivering mine to tomorrow. I feel likeits Christmas eve! :-D

twennywonn 05-28-2010 02:05 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Posting from MY $400 EVO its pretty good but mostly sucks and may have killed my dog, will report back later.......................

apristel 05-28-2010 04:36 AM

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I'm calling shenanigans on this Bundo!! Pictures or it didn't happen.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFi...740/919427.jpg

really this is a joke, hope everything is ok. I get bored at 3:40am

TheBundo 05-28-2010 04:56 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Okay, I'm home now. This was an 8 hour journey, not just for the phone, but it was a 300 mile drive all things considered. I won't be able to give all the details, as I haven't discovered them all myself yet, but I mostly like it. Yes, it is my first Android phone, and it doesn't have the number of widgets available for the home screen like the Sprint Lover's ROM on the TP2 has. But that may be able to be fixed later. My biggest issues, or things to get used to, are the lack of keyboard (as expected), and the fact that the screen is of the type that requires you to use your fingers. The stylus from my TP2 has no effect on it, so I imagine neither does a hand with a glove on it. Hence, since there is no Send and End keys (only on-screen), you would ONLY be able to answer the phone with a bare hand. If your hands were too dirty, you couldn't answer it with anything else, like a toothpick or whatever.

Many other issues I am finding solutions for, though I haven't implemented or tried any of them yet, like a task switcher, etc. There is a long way to go yet. However, both gmail and yahoo mail set up easily, and Google Sync brought in my contacts and calendar with ease.

As to the larger screens's larger keyboard, it helps some, but it still leaves a lot to be desired compared to the physical one, especially for a large-fingered guy.

Again, for the most part, I'm happy, and think/hope software will take care of many of the issues. We'll see.......

TheBundo 05-28-2010 05:12 AM

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Here's a recording I took at a Max Muscle store I built, after hours tonight, on the way home from San Francisco, where I got the Evo, and uploaded to YouTube. This was shot in 720p, so don't forget to raise the resolution in YouTube. Not all that impressive, IMO. And the file for this minute of video is 42 megs on my phone, compared to 3 or 4 megs on the TP2. This certainly isn't 10 times better, and files of this size are not emailable, whereas I email the TP2 videos almost everyday. Of course, I can lower the settings to match those of the TP2 so I can shoot and email. We'll have to see how those turn out. All in all, the camera, like almost all of the other phone camera, falls far short of how they make it sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdQC31kS-JY

apristel 05-28-2010 05:16 AM

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yeah video isn't what you would expect for "HD." I'm still feeling it is better than most phones which is good.

Seems when you are still and not moving the quality is much better.

Thanks for the video!

TheBundo 05-28-2010 05:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apristel (Post 1778652)
yeah video isn't what you would expect for "HD." I'm still feeling it is better than most phones which is good.

Seems when you are still and not moving the quality is much better.

Thanks for the video!

Yeah, and the lighting was a weird mixture of halogen and fluorescent. But the file size means you couldn't shoot more than a very few seconds and still be able to email it, so for my daily use, the setting will have to be ramped way down. Still, it may be just about as good, since as we all know, the lens is the a big limiting factor here.

TheBundo 05-28-2010 05:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twennywonn (Post 1778562)
Posting from MY $400 EVO its pretty good but mostly sucks and may have killed my dog, will report back later.......................

The only thing that sucked about it was that there was no physical keyboard, AND nothing but your fingers work on the on-screen KB. I tried my TP's stylus, no workie. I guess it's another iPhone issue were being forced to integrate. And don't try to answer the phone with gloves on - no physical Send or End keys. These are some realities we have to accept if we want to use one.

One more is that the screen is VERY sensitive, and it's easy to head off in the wrong direction by barely touching the screen. Perhaps there is a way to adjust it, but I haven't run accross is yet. And that affects the 4 buttons too. They aren't real switches, just more touch-screen. It is sooooo easy to bump one of them, like the home or back button, and then have to wade through the menus to click the icon for the program again.

iceturkee 05-28-2010 07:11 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
is today june 4? then how do you have this phone a week early?

tool2269 05-28-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by iceturkee (Post 1778680)
is today june 4? then how do you have this phone a week early?

"Google I/O event" phone probably.. evo's given out at the event and then sold by attendees on ebay/craigslist

TheBundo 05-28-2010 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceturkee (Post 1778680)
is today june 4? then how do you have this phone a week early?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool2269 (Post 1778684)
"Google I/O event" phone probably.. evo's given out at the event and then sold by attendees on ebay/craigslist

There are about 5000 of them out there, apparently. The man I got it from was a caterer for an after-party for the Google I/O event, at Toshiba, and someone there gave it to him. I ended up paying exactly $400. It was going to be $420, but I watched several unboxing videos on YouTube on the way up, and knew there was supposed to be an 8GB card, and a 2GB card. When I noticed that (we were in the lobby of his apt. bldg. is San Francisco), he had this sheepish look on his face, and so I said that perhaps he could run back up to his apt. and look for it. He did, then came back down without it and took the $20 off.

tool2269 05-28-2010 07:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778695)
was a caterer for an after-party for the Google I/O event, at Toshiba, and someone there gave it to him.


he stole it when no one was looking:twisted:

TheBundo 05-28-2010 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tool2269 (Post 1778696)
he stole it when no one was looking:twisted:

I worried about that, but the guy had me over to his place, I have his real email, his full name, etc. This guy was on the up-and-up. While he was young, he wasn't one of those little rap guys

tool2269 05-28-2010 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778701)
one of those little rap guys

yeah because only little 'rap' guys steal :angry7:

either way, enjoy the phone.

TheBundo 05-28-2010 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tool2269 (Post 1778703)
yeah because only little 'rap' guys steal :angry7:

either way, enjoy the phone.

lol, I said that tongue in cheek, no offense intended

iceturkee 05-28-2010 08:25 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778695)
There are about 5000 of them out there, apparently. The man I got it from was a caterer for an after-party for the Google I/O event, at Toshiba, and someone there gave it to him. I ended up paying exactly $400. It was going to be $420, but I watched several unboxing videos on YouTube on the way up, and knew there was supposed to be an 8GB card, and a 2GB card. When I noticed that (we were in the lobby of his apt. bldg. is San Francisco), he had this sheepish look on his face, and so I said that perhaps he could run back up to his apt. and look for it. He did, then came back down without it and took the $20 off.




sorry, i'm not going to pay $400 today for a phone i will get for $200 june 4.

TheBundo 05-28-2010 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceturkee (Post 1778723)
sorry, i'm not going to pay $400 today for a phone i will get for $200 june 4.

I wouldn't either. Unfortunately, I'm not eligible for an upgrade credit of any amount, nor even the rebate. By the way, you won't get out of the store for $200. Maybe $350, since you will pay tax on the full $449, and the rebate has to be mailed in, unless you get it at Best Buy. Still, close to $250 will be the tally. And a new contract. For me, I get to try this thing for 3 weeks or so before deciding if I want it. Yes, I know you can opt out when buying from Sprint too, but what a hassle getting it all unwound. I'll be able to acid test this thing, and ALL features are turned on too, including the hotspot, etc. And I have time to find the best plan I can set up. Who knows, maybe someone will figure out how to swap the ESN onto a SERO account after cancelling the Sprint/Google IO line. Sure, no 4G, but that's a non-issue to me. Stability in the device is the real issue for me.

This thing boots up completely in a minute. My TP2 has a long grind to be fully functional. Sense doesn't start well at all, takes forever. And the mid-day reboots are common enough for that to be a real business issue. So the Evo may be the solution. I can sell the TP2 for almost that much, since it's unlocked and they go for a lot more on eBay. I still have the Mogul as a temp backup

iceturkee 05-28-2010 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778742)
I wouldn't either. Unfortunately, I'm not eligible for an upgrade credit of any amount, nor even the rebate. By the way, you won't get out of the store for $200. Maybe $350, since you will pay tax on the full $449, and the rebate has to be mailed in, unless you get it at Best Buy. Still, close to $250 will be the tally. And a new contract. For me, I get to try this thing for 3 weeks or so before deciding if I want it. Yes, I know you can opt out when buying from Sprint too, but what a hassle getting it all unwound. I'll be able to acid test this thing, and ALL features are turned on too, including the hotspot, etc. And I have time to find the best plan I can set up. Who knows, maybe someone will figure out how to swap the ESN onto a SERO account after cancelling the Sprint/Google IO line. Sure, no 4G, but that's a non-issue to me. Stability in the device is the real issue for me.

This thing boots up completely in a minute. My TP2 has a long grind to be fully functional. Sense doesn't start well at all, takes forever. And the mid-day reboots are common enough for that to be a real business issue. So the Evo may be the solution. I can sell the TP2 for almost that much, since it's unlocked and they go for a lot more on eBay. I still have the Mogul as a temp backup



i pre ordered from radio shack, no mail in rebate.

Pao 05-28-2010 08:54 AM

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Thanks for posting your thoughts. Though I do find your thoughts on the screen very strange. This is a capacitive screen, they work on your body's electro-static field, so it has nothing to do with pressure (hence no stylus), like your TP's resistive screen does. The reason to want a capacitive screen is because you can have multi-touch, which you don't get with resistive.

I would have thought these were things you would have known going in since it was stated as having a capacitive screen, or just the fact that it's multi-touch. It has nothing to do with Apple or anyone following their lead, they did not create or pioneer the technology. And I highly doubt they were even the first to use it in an application.

Either way I'm jealous you're getting to play with the phone already, have fun and keep updating us!

TheBundo 05-28-2010 08:58 AM

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Another minor pain-in-the-neck issue is that the phone doesn't use the same USB port as almost everything else is using nowadays. Just when it seemed everything was going to be on the same plug, and I have tons of them in every configuration and everywhere, they go and change it. Also, the supplied cord is a little too short, though that can be fixed easy enough. And notice in the photo what they have done with the wall adaptor (the one on the top). Unreal, it's bound to get band and/or broke sticking out like that.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1275051442

redd214 05-28-2010 09:10 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
not sure about that one pretty much all newer high end phones have micro usb. evo, hd2, incredible, nexus1, moto droid etc. its the new standard as far as phones are concerned

i360 05-28-2010 09:11 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778767)
Another minor pain-in-the-neck issue is that the phone doesn't use the same USB port as almost everything else is using nowadays. Just when it seemed everything was going to be on the same plug, and I have tons of them in every configuration and everywhere, they go and change it.

Yeah that is a bummer. I'm use to everything being mini USB which I have plugs all over and all our phones, cameras, external USB drives all have the same mini USB. Now here comes the Evo with its micro USB and have to change my game around....

TheBundo 05-28-2010 09:21 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pao (Post 1778764)
Thanks for posting your thoughts. Though I do find your thoughts on the screen very strange. This is a capacitive screen, they work on your body's electro-static field, so it has nothing to do with pressure (hence no stylus), like your TP's resistive screen does. The reason to want a capacitive screen is because you can have multi-touch, which you don't get with resistive.

I would have thought these were things you would have known going in since it was stated as having a capacitive screen, or just the fact that it's multi-touch. It has nothing to do with Apple or anyone following their lead, they did not create or pioneer the technology. And I highly doubt they were even the first to use it in an application.

Either way I'm jealous you're getting to play with the phone already, have fun and keep updating us!

Thanks, I'm a little more than just tired after playing with it all night, and was being a little sarcastic about following Apple. I did know it was multi-touch, but I guess I didn't put all the pieces together, and realize it was going to be unusable without bare hands. It is the first phone I've ever held that was like that. I've never held or played with an iPhone before (the specs on the 1st 2 units were TOTALLY unacceptable for me - no video recording, no MS Office document editing, etc). So the reality of it all hadn't sank in until I was faced with it. Certainly, highlighting text may be an upcoming issue I face during this decision period for me, since my fingers probably won't do too well. But the right software may address it, like letting you "mark" a start point, then arrow over to the end point, and "mark" that too.

I know this is being highly marketed for it's multi-media capabilities, and rightly so. That doesn't play into my needs that much (though it's fun for sure), and it doesn't hurt anything either, that it can do the multi-media well, because it also does email and other things that I do need so well. I am most concerned about when I have to write a long letter from the field, and how, for me anyway, it is much slower and more mistake-prone than the TP2. For that matter, the TP2 wasn't as good at cut/copy and paste activities as the Mogul was. Those that used both in that manner know what I mean.

The TP2 had some workarounds in SOME programs or screens, like a menu choice that said "Text Selection On", but that was more steps, etc., than on the Mogul. Add to that, with the Evo, how careful you have to be with the hyper-sensitive screen and buttons, and it will take some getting used to. I could type fairly fast, and would for a short message, on the TP2's onscreen KB, but always using the stylus. If the message was more than a couple sentences or so, the KB came sliding out. I tried Swipe, and was getting used to it, but it caused some major slowdowns in some apps for some reason. Hopefully, there is or will soon be a version for the Evo (I think there is, I forget, there are so many things to learn, test, play with, etc).

Again, I'm leaning more over the fence toward keeping the Evo than ever, but realize there are shortcomings that aren't major, but more than minor (for me anyway). I think part of it is that once you have had something, it's hard to lose it. Kinda like when we lost the flash on the TP2

TheBundo 05-28-2010 09:31 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Does anyone know offhand if this can play TV out to a regular TV that only has RCA type inputs, like the TP1 & TP2 could? If so, is it using the USB, or some sort of adaptor for the HDMI? If it can't that would be another loss for those that want to output to a regular TV. Not a big deal to me, at this point anyway, but I will try to find an answer in the manual as I read it. If anyone knows, chime in

tool2269 05-28-2010 10:00 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778794)
Does anyone know offhand if this can play TV out to a regular TV that only has RCA type inputs, like the TP1 & TP2 could? If so, is it using the USB, or some sort of adaptor for the HDMI? If it can't that would be another loss for those that want to output to a regular TV. Not a big deal to me, at this point anyway, but I will try to find an answer in the manual as I read it. If anyone knows, chime in

nope. i read that the incredible's micro usb to composite out(rca cables) doesnt work w/ the evo.

evo only outputs via micro hdmi.

there is a hdmi to composite converter box type thing, but its over $200

TheBundo 05-28-2010 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tool2269 (Post 1778833)
nope. i read that the incredible's micro usb to composite out(rca cables) doesnt work w/ the evo.

evo only outputs via micro hdmi.

there is a hdmi to composite converter box type thing, but its over $200

Okay, good to know. I just bought my 1st TV with HDMI a few months ago. We have 3 or 4 other TV's, but they are old, as we don't tend to get a new TV until the old one starts smoking lol. I think a couple more on on their last legs, so it won't be long before most of them have it. 1 is enough for now, if the cable goes out. At least we can fire up Fox News or somethings and know the rest of the world hasn't disappeared (yet, anyway)

BRIVERS73 05-28-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Posting from my $400 Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778767)
Another minor pain-in-the-neck issue is that the phone doesn't use the same USB port as almost everything else is using nowadays. Just when it seemed everything was going to be on the same plug, and I have tons of them in every configuration and everywhere, they go and change it. Also, the supplied cord is a little too short, though that can be fixed easy enough. And notice in the photo what they have done with the wall adaptor (the one on the top). Unreal, it's bound to get band and/or broke sticking out like that.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1275051442

Quote:

Originally Posted by i360 (Post 1778782)
Yeah that is a bummer. I'm use to everything being mini USB which I have plugs all over and all our phones, cameras, external USB drives all have the same mini USB. Now here comes the Evo with its micro USB and have to change my game around....

Guys you could always buy an adapter. I'm pretty sure if u look, u can find it for cheaper as well.

apristel 05-28-2010 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRIVERS73 (Post 1778930)
Guys you could always buy an adapter. I'm pretty sure if u look, u can find it for cheaper as well.

.99 on ebay free shipping from HK
or 2.99 from USA, free shipping.

nuprotocol 05-28-2010 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1778650)
Here's a recording I took at a Max Muscle store I built, after hours tonight, on the way home from San Francisco, where I got the Evo, and uploaded to YouTube. This was shot in 720p, so don't forget to raise the resolution in YouTube. Not all that impressive, IMO. And the file for this minute of video is 42 megs on my phone, compared to 3 or 4 megs on the TP2. This certainly isn't 10 times better, and files of this size are not emailable, whereas I email the TP2 videos almost everyday. Of course, I can lower the settings to match those of the TP2 so I can shoot and email. We'll have to see how those turn out. All in all, the camera, like almost all of the other phone camera, falls far short of how they make it sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdQC31kS-JY

Goodness that quality does suck.. lol

TheBundo 05-28-2010 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRIVERS73 (Post 1778930)
Guys you could always buy an adapter. I'm pretty sure if u look, u can find it for cheaper as well.

BINGO !!!!! Thanks

apristel 05-28-2010 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuprotocol (Post 1778980)
Goodness that quality does suck.. lol

This is from an EVO.

i lied. wasnt from an EVO after further review.

doesn't suck.

nuprotocol 05-28-2010 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apristel (Post 1778989)
This is from an EVO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez3D8Qu3ujY

doesn't suck.

Is that really from an EVO? lol


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