Why upgrading to an EVO when you're not in a 4G Market is a waste of money
 

I live in NYC. NYC is not slated to get 4G until January 2011. This means that the 4G extra charge of $10/month on top of my phone plan is charity to Sprint. I've read repeatedly the charge is because the device is constantly pulling data (who asked it to, after all what's this going to do to battery life?) and for unlimited (in other words, no 5G data cap, which is pretty amazing given that I always thought unlimited meant unlimited not unlimited with a 5Gig data cap, NOW we have to pay an extra $10/month for them to admit that when they originally said unlimited, they were out and out lying) data.

When they actually allow people to use data unlimited and watch as people stream 100s of gigs of data and movies to their devices, I wonder how quickly this tune is going to change? Oh, did we mean unlimited with no 5Gig cap, but we didn't know you'd actually take advantage of it.

All of which leads me to believe that this isn't a good deal and a bait-and-switch that is going to bite Sprint in the collective butt. They're selling a phone top-of-the-line phone that cannot take advantage of one of its most powerful uses as the 4G market is not yet everywhere. Even when it is, I get the feeling there will be LOTS of people complaining about throttling of bandwidth due to it being used as advertised.

Just my observations.

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it is still about the phone though too... its 200 bucks, thats cheap for a sweet phone.. even if i can only run it 3g... and for my first android phone, 200 for the most spec'd phone to date.. i can live with that.... im pretty sure itll be close to a year before 4G is Detroit and the metro areas(unless the walmart/wimax deal goes through, then itd be quicker for everyone im sure)..

just sayin.. its still a sweet phone.. i have every discount in the book just about.. 10 bucks isnt gonna kill me.. hell, ill look at like im paying 10 a month for tethering finally LOL.. there ya go sprint, im finally gonna pay for something

**you better believe im gonna start using some serious data now though.. 100s of gbs a month.. its on LOL FTW!****

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Sigh... how many more of these are we going to see before June 4th? If you dont want it dont buy it... its certainly not going to stop anyone else from doing so.

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Sorry but sprints unlimited phone plan really is unlimited and has been. The 5 gig cap is on their 4g usb modems and on the base stations. There is not and has not been a 5 gig cap on the unlimited data plan. However it also has said you can not tether on the plan either. Me and my family go over 5 gigs all the time and always have. My kids watch sprint tv stream music and video all the time. So does my wife for that matter.

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I'm sorry I just can't wrap my mind around the crying over this $10 fee. I mean I'm lucky to be in Baltimore with 4G but even if I wasn't I'd still get the EVo no problem. It's not like sprint is taxing you $30 a month or some outrageous amount for the phone. People need to grow up and stop crying. SHit I manage a Verzion store and I want to laugh at them when they sign up for those expensive ass plans then then have to throw on a $29.99 Data plan as well for JR's droid or Dad's blackberry. Sprint is offering a dope phone and some of the best plans around.....so please tell me what's the real issue? If it truely bothers you don't buy the phone or if sprint's pricing annoys you I can hook you up with a Verzion plan that'll surely piss you off lol.

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I currently download/stream from 1.4TB - 2TB+ monthly. We shall see how exactly their unlimited nocap internet really works.

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Yeaaaaahhhhhh

I dont live in a 4G area and I'm still buying the phone. I mean, what else does Sprint have thats even remotely close to this? The Nexus One?

Oh yeah....

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Agreed. I’m also in NYC and I know we aren’t going to get 4G anytime soon but guess what? I don’t care. Even when we do I’ll probably keep it on 3G most of the time anyway to save battery life unless im downloading or streaming something. Of course no one is happy about paying $10 more but some of us spend more than that on lunch a day so its not going to cause anyone to go homeless. The plan is what it is, pay it or don’t get the EVO, simple as that. I wanted a iphone 3GS bad when it came out but I looked at AT&T’s pricing and I said no thanks. I tried to justify it so many different ways but the pricing is what it is and I choose to pass. Just like you can do now with the EVO.

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I hear ya.
Quit whining $10 ppl.

Don't politicize it. Don't classify it.
We don't care how you spin it, if you can't pay, don't play.
Simple.

Some haterz are actually floating the idea of suing Sprint over this at su.com (btw, a site where most of the time the conversation is how to circumvent & manipulate Sprint's pricing plans to get discounts)
Over what??
The official plan hasn't even come out yet.

Watch them change it to $439 & see how many flock to buy it...it rhymes with a lot.

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..qft

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FAIL FAIL...Please you guys are bringing us down with this in many ways - excitement, and the grade of our community. We are ALL annoyed about this 10 additional fee but some of you guys sound so cheap. No offense, but you sound like those kids at my school that walk around the club and drink water or soda bc they don't want to spend the 10 bux on alcohol.
This is not what this community represents. We are geeks, not bums. Get you game up. Don't get me wrong, this community is about expressing yourself, but there are a plethora of threads dedicated to this topic. Please take ur ish there and post accordingly.
SD

Re: Why upgrading to an EVO when you're not in a 4G Market is a waste of money
 

I personally am still going to buy the Evo 4G..$10 is 2 cups of coffee at your favorite coffee stand or local Starbucks. Most of you probably spend that much cash in one day buying lunch, drinks and other stuff on a daily basis...some don't but I'm trying to prove a point. $10 is not much to ask for in the scheme of things.

I do feel though that Sprint probably should have waited to embark this $10 fee till they atleast they had a good amount of 4G tower live around the US. With only a dozen or so cities with 4G I feel they were a bit pre-mature in charging the customers. I would like to get your opinion on that too. I and many other also relize the $10 fee is not just for the 4G but for the pure kick ass of the phone...what it offers is more than any other network can muster right now...and that to me is worth the $10.

If you feel it's still a burden, then contact Sprint or go into your local store and see if the Rep can't help you out and give you a credit or something....worst case call retention and let them know your cituation...maybe cutting the $10 to $5. Just think, if you were on Verizon's network...to have Visual Voicemail thats $10 extra a month, VZ Navigator $10 extra a month....and for the Evo 4G which is in my opinion the best out there now...is much more of a bargin than 1 program that either speaks your voicemail without dialing, or getting turn by turn directions (sucky program btw).

Whats your thoughts? I think it's a great deal...compared to the competition.

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I pay 8 dollars per Chipotle burrito whenever I go... and I go at least three times a week. I can suffer immensely without one Chipotle burrito for an Evo :lol:

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I totally agree. I can't understand the whining about a whopping 10 bucks. Have one less Starbucks mocha, One less drink at the bar.

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For me, its not the price. Its just how it all went down. Told one thing, they then did another, and then they expect me to believe another lie. lost alot of respect for Sprint as a company. For others, they don't agree they dont get the full benefits of what other users are getting, yet they're paying the same fee. everyone is going to have their opinions, good or bad about the fee. hopefully soon there will be some sort of resolution so theres less fighting around here. (then again my constant sarcasm and intentional 'stirring of the pot' doesnt help :lol:)

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But those Chipotle burritos are so damn good! Oh the suffering we must endure to have the latest and the greatest! Off to lunch :)

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Try to kill a double rice, double beans, double chicken, sour cream, hot sauce, corn, lettuce, extra cheese burrito in 7 mins. I'll buy you a gift card LOL

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100% agree with your points.
However, the other side will point to the Hesse comment about giving the customer 4G for free @ CTIA & jump on that as a boldface lie.

IMO, it was a poor choice of words by SPCS but otherwise, it's their business to run not mine's.
My job is to make money to get the things I need not to complain about stuff I can't control about.
& don't get me started on the weak back bones of the $10 complainers.

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You know you will still get your three Chipotle Burritos a week...don't deny it. Just change your weekly budget to compensate...take away from something elese...$10 less in the fuel tank...whichever hehe...Nobody takes away my food...

But yeah Sprint left a sour taste is some peoples mouths...and you can't really put the blame on Dan the CEO, if he really is the CEO and not just a spokesperson..Marketing departments and or whomever does the pricing can over rule anything and do what they want. I have a much more sour taste with Verizon Wireless than I do with Sprint, they are the #1 carrier and decided they wouldn't help me...I left..came to Sprint and they have done pretty much everything they could possible...Yeah they have there issues, but doesn't everyone?

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I usually spend 30 dollars every weekend on drinks @ the club. That's not too hard to drop lol

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damn.. sprint is now forcing ppl to eat less and drink less! I can see the new threads now....

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ROFL...where has this thead gone? I'll just quit smoking cigarettes...State of Washington already has a generic pack at over $7 a pack...$3 difference...I can do that...

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gettin the Evo no matter what ill take the $10 charge its not a big deal, i could be stuck on verizon lol :banghead:

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They should make a sticky named "EVO/$10/Dan Heese Statment" complaints and let all the cheap, whiners complain in that thread all they want so us people who want to talk positively about the phone can do so without reading a new complaint thread every 5 minutes.

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ok theres ONE major problem with the opening argument WHERE in the world did u hear ny getting 4g in 2011? thats verizon thats gonna have it there in 2011 within the next 3 MONTH ny will have 4g i work at the company that owns the towers that clear puts antennas on... crowncastle look em up. clear alrdy has an antenna on the empire state building and several other buildings. there in testing stages now and it will be up months sooner than 2011

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In addition, declaring what is and isn't a waste of money is completely subjective. I like nice cars, a lot of people think nice cars are a waste of money, not me. It's all preference, what things in life are worth it for you to have for the right price? Obviously this $10 isn't that big of a deal to a lot of people but a huge issue for others. Case and point the EVO is worth $10 a month to me to me and I will be getting one on June 4th. Though I understand that you are not willing to pay this.

On another note, thanks to everyone who keeps opening threads about the $10 add on! Perhaps though, you could just post this in an existing thread and stop reiterating what has been said several times in several threads on this forum.

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They said that 4G wouldn't be extra, for me that was a true statement because it's currently limited to the EVO, all of the 4G wireless cards aren't being increased as well so it's not a 4G tax. Do you even know what the apps are, that are built into the phone? Maybe the cost is for those as well. Why don't you people do something constructive and find out what the actual fee includes instead of complaining about the fee. If this phone has a bundle of apps and network services say simultaneous voice and data, web cam etc that no other phone currently has, that would be a possible definition of richer data experience. Hey--and if you don't need those apps, then don't buy the phone...

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I had to thank you for this lol

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o and if you dont like it then dont get it. if you want a phone similar to the evo go get the incred and pay more for the phone that has less features and still costs more

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obviously you're late to the party or didn't read my last sentence.

btw, i have had 2 'sprint reps' call me and neither could fully explain the fee without reading from their little piece of paper. but yet you seem to know by assuming its for 'apps.' Really? a monthly reoccuring fee for the same apps? nice try.

im way done with my stance on the whole thing and am only responding since you found the need to call me out.again, nice try :wave:

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I don't have 4g and probably will not get it in a long time since i live in Louisiana...they usually get EVERYTHING last..I'll still get the phone because it's a badass phone...people do have the option not to buy the phone..it's not like sprint is forcing you to buy the phone..the same would apply to anything like buying cars...I could drive a civic but I chose to buy a bmw...both basically does the same thing getting me from point A to point B, but I paid extra for the added premium like the driving experince and luxury features...

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we want the bmw w/ cloth seats and a tape player!! jk

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dont u mean 8 track?

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i'm not THAT old

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to bad they didnt make indash laser disk players lol

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this phone isnt for the cheap schmucks.

you want the best phone in the world? you gotta pay to play. thats how i see it..
and i dont care, i doubt 4g hits my city in a long time, but im still getting it.

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IMO $199 is for "cheap schmucks." Make the phone cost $449 with no exceptions then we can brag about "pay to play"

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Where did you get the January 2011 4G date from for NYC? You're wayyyyy off there. It's starting up in Flushing right now, and should be hot city-wide by Sept/Oct at the latest.

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You know what guys?! I love this thread......absolutely LOVE IT! You wanna know why?!

1) Right?! So first off...on a minor point....name one smartphone that has GOOD battery life....one where you're gonna be doing all the things you would be doing on any other smartphone that wouldn't drain the any other smartphones battery?!?!?!?!

On a major point......nobody is asking you to buy the phone......just as in the same way nobody is asking for the device to constantly pull data.....it was made that way.....its different.....so bash the phone for its differences...good idea!

And like it's been stated a millions times before.........Verizon and AT&T both have Hollywood priced plans for their smartphones.......instead of complaining just go to them and pay their prices.....and see how you like it than!

2) This thread kinda backfired on you sanjsrik.....and YES....we have enough threads....on top of threads about stuff not related to the $10 charge where people are still discussing the charge...with people bashing the phone because of the $10 charge! So now you have a thread full of humble, moderate and compromising people who either don't care about the charge...see the phone being "too sweet" to even think about not getting because of the charge...or is in disagreement with the charge and still getting the phone because the plan still is cheaper! Nice Job Buddie!

3) Most of the people who posted in this thread are SO understanding....because even the ones who don't agree with the charge still aren't bashing the phone....or Sprint!

My point to you sanjsrik.........there's a $10 add-on if you wanna use a EVO 4G......deal with it bud!

Just my observations.

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I thought it was labeled "A-Track?!" :scratch: