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sebo 04-15-2010 03:48 PM

uh oh.. we have a war..
 
for once it seems vzw is trying to beat sprint by launching the incredible (almost identical device as the Evo) on April 29th... they already started preorders for it.

wonder if this will make sprint think about releasing it sooner :twisted:

fakeguy 04-15-2010 03:50 PM

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Knowing Sprint probably not but they should.

drksilenc 04-15-2010 03:51 PM

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i doubt it will phase sprint. because they cant even get web devs that can make a working website.

darren.wlsn1 04-15-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sebo (Post 1701132)
for once it seems vzw is trying to beat sprint by launching the incredible (almost identical device as the Evo) on April 29th... they already started preorders for it.

wonder if this will make sprint think about releasing it sooner :twisted:

can you post link where you got the info. please?

sebo 04-15-2010 04:02 PM

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http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

rushco 04-15-2010 04:55 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/5.0.3521/764; U; en) Presto/2.4.15)

bigger screen and hdmi and front facing camera and cheaper plans with the evo. if people were smart they would wait.

sebo 04-15-2010 05:03 PM

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i agree.. the only advantage the Incredible has is its AMOLED OLED screen.

OMJ 04-15-2010 05:30 PM

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This is typical Sprint, they will let this opportunity slip through their fingers.....such a pity

Darkjedi 04-15-2010 10:57 PM

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I personally think the EVO is a way better phone.

supdawg 04-15-2010 11:09 PM

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Bigger screen = much better phone. 3.x" screens are so 2008.

atomicvocabulary 04-16-2010 12:03 AM

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Of the two, which one would be best to just throw the money down to buy and use for like an e-reader and access to developing android apps?

My specific question being, taking the coverage and phone portion out of the conversation which one is the absolute better device? As I am....unwilling to lose a SERO account I am thinking of doing such a thing.

M2Iceman 04-16-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1701333)
This is typical Sprint, they will let this opportunity slip through their fingers.....such a pity

This is what pains me to be a Sprint customer, the waiting game. Maybe Sprints business customers and their no need for smartphones drive the "I Dont care" attitude. Thats too bad because im sure the rest of us also help the bottom line and want EVO!
If Sprint were smart and their people were thinking, this phone would be in the FCC and stamped and shipped in May. As close to the Incred launch as possible and well before the Iphone, but yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

ajac 04-16-2010 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sebo (Post 1701132)
for once it seems vzw is trying to beat sprint by launching the incredible (almost identical device as the Evo) on April 29th... they already started preorders for it.

wonder if this will make sprint think about releasing it sooner :twisted:

same processors and basic structure but their not completely the same.

4.3 in screen vs 3.7
3g/4g vs just 3g
1024 rom vs 512 rom
HDMI, 720p camera 8mp camera + second one for video conferencing vs just an 8mp camera
fm radio vs none
1500 mah batter out of box vs 1300 mah
no secondary rom but comes with 8gig microsd card vs 8gig built in with micro sd card support of up to 24 gig
voice and data in release or future release (using 4g for data) vs one at a time

not enough of the same for alot of people to go "hmmm incredible is here but evo isnt" I know quit a few AT&T customers and US Cellular customers around here waiting for the release.. even a few Verizon customers cause Verizon service SUCKS in Oklahoma.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomp...=2233&id2=2234

gTen 04-16-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by M2Iceman (Post 1702296)
This is what pains me to be a Sprint customer, the waiting game. Maybe Sprints business customers and their no need for smartphones drive the "I Dont care" attitude. Thats too bad because im sure the rest of us also help the bottom line and want EVO!
If Sprint were smart and their people were thinking, this phone would be in the FCC and stamped and shipped in May. As close to the Incred launch as possible and well before the Iphone, but yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

The EVO may not be fully functional or semi buggy.. remember this is the first wimax phone and sprint is putting a lot of advertising and effort on it..they can't afford the phone to have issues.

drksilenc 04-16-2010 10:48 AM

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they also cant afford to release this phone late ither though it needs to be on the heels of the incredible and out weeks before the iphone hd to make a dent in the iphones sales

spokenwordd 04-16-2010 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sebo (Post 1701132)
for once it seems vzw is trying to beat sprint by launching the incredible (almost identical device as the Evo) on April 29th... they already started preorders for it.

wonder if this will make sprint think about releasing it sooner :twisted:

There is nothing identical about the Verizon phone. Have you seen this gimped garbage? No 4G of course, no second camera, much lower memory and smaller screen. Verizon has shown their skills at gimping again...

smiznith 04-16-2010 01:51 PM

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yeah the incredible is similar but far away...

gTen 04-16-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spokenwordd (Post 1702636)
There is nothing identical about the Verizon phone. Have you seen this gimped garbage? No 4G of course, no second camera, much lower memory and smaller screen. Verizon has shown their skills at gimping again...

How did Verizon gimp it again?

no 4g = cause they don't have a 4g network

no second camera = thats cause its CDMA..

much lower memory = not really its mostly rom thats lower but you have a 2ndary 8gb rom

smaller screen = yes but its AMOLED screen..plus screen size boils down to preference.

Just to note the incredible is not the supersonic/evo >.>..its closer to the Desire aka Nexus One

Cicatrize 04-16-2010 02:52 PM

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I'm sure Sprint knew about this, which is probably why they're so heavily advertising the Evo. Anyone who knows anything about smartphones is going to know that the Evo is far superior.

Anyway, I think Sprint is doing the right thing. They want to make sure everything works well before they release this device. It's revolutionary and does a lot of things, and I'm sure they don't want to risk releasing something so new without making sure it has all the features that people want (COUGH iphone 2G).

jonnythan 04-16-2010 02:59 PM

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Not the same phone.

The Incredible is more of a Nexus One with Sense.

The Evo has a much larger screen, 4G, 720p output via HDMI, and a front-facing camera.

Cicatrize 04-16-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnythan (Post 1702881)
Not the same phone.

The Incredible is more of a Nexus One with Sense.

The Evo has a much larger screen, 4G, 720p output via HDMI, and a front-facing camera.

Don't forget the kickstand! :D

lol

kylelerner 04-16-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drksilenc (Post 1701146)
i doubt it will phase sprint. because they cant even get web devs that can make a working website.

This is SOO true. It's rediculous how often sprint's site is on maintenance, or just completely screwed up.

Gotta love their network though :p

kylelerner 04-16-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1702407)
The EVO may not be fully functional or semi buggy.. remember this is the first wimax phone and sprint is putting a lot of advertising and effort on it..they can't afford the phone to have issues.

I'm sorry, I just HAD to mention the Samsung Instinct after reading this..

I owned one, and while it was a love/hate relationship...it was mostly hate.

It was NOT what it was advertised to be. Over $100 Million was spent: See this article.
Based on a custom Java-based OS, a slow cpu, embarassing stock browser.
The only awesome part was the giddy GPS navigation, and voice-recognition software that helped you find nearby businesses.
I'm getting off-topic now..

I just hope this phone is as amazing as I'm hyped for it to be.
This time we have an awesome OS, fast cpu, and blazing fast 4G networking speeds.

I just hope I am not disappointed.

Hooray for EVO!:)

sebo 04-16-2010 03:40 PM

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well maybe i exaggerated by saying "identical" i guess "similar" would have been a better choice.

anyway, i don't think even if sprint wanted to they CAN'T release the Evo. from what i've read it's not even "ready" as in there is no 4G software on the OS running yet.

i too agree they will lose out on quite a few sales if they don't release before the crapple iphone, i think if Sprint really wanted to be on top they would have people finishing the Evo up by working on it 24/7 and releasing it asap.

sprint lacks the brains so i bet they will be sticking with their June release.

Adrianh85 04-16-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1702817)
How did Verizon gimp it again?

no 4g = cause they don't have a 4g network

no second camera = thats cause its CDMA..

much lower memory = not really its mostly rom thats lower but you have a 2ndary 8gb rom

smaller screen = yes but its AMOLED screen..plus screen size boils down to preference.

Just to note the incredible is not the supersonic/evo >.>..its closer to the Desire aka Nexus One

+1 i agree!! i two dont feel verizon gimped the phone!! but i also plan on owning both phones!!

jonnythan 04-16-2010 03:58 PM

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The Evo is an awesome phone, but honestly I'd prefer the Incredible thanks to the smaller size.

Adrianh85 04-16-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnythan (Post 1702989)
The Evo is an awesome phone, but honestly I'd prefer the Incredible thanks to the smaller size.

both phones are great compaired to what we currently are using! but the evo does have a nice edge to it! im pretty sure once lte is off the ground verizon will have a simular phone to the evo to show off its 4g (and probly will use the snapdragon with 1.5ghz or the super duo core 1.5ghz)

http://www.slashgear.com/dual-core-1...-2010-0768955/

sebo 04-16-2010 05:01 PM

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the Evo also has a brushed aluminum kickstand. ;)

gTen 04-16-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrianh85 (Post 1703049)
both phones are great compaired to what we currently are using! but the evo does have a nice edge to it! im pretty sure once lte is off the ground verizon will have a simular phone to the evo to show off its 4g (and probly will use the snapdragon with 1.5ghz or the super duo core 1.5ghz)

http://www.slashgear.com/dual-core-1...-2010-0768955/

I'd rather have a Samsung Hummingbird with a Super AMOLED screen..I hope Samsung Galaxy S Pro comes to Sprint >.>

Ticklemepinks 04-17-2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrianh85 (Post 1702970)
+1 i agree!! i two dont feel verizon gimped the phone!! but i also plan on owning both phones!!

but sprint is cdma and has added the camera lol but i digress lol I don't really think verizon is gimpin, it more of a nexus clone than evo

Atomic2Mod 04-17-2010 12:12 PM

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But consider ye this:
Sprint has announced the EVO months in advance. I remember us complaining how they kept so very mum before, when we were hoping for just ANYTHING....

OMJ 04-17-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Atomic2Mod (Post 1704162)
But consider ye this:
Sprint has announced the EVO months in advance. I remember us complaining how they kept so very mum before, when we were hoping for just ANYTHING....

good point, but now we have something new to complain about....WHEN?

gTen 04-17-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ticklemepinks (Post 1703895)
but sprint is cdma and has added the camera lol but i digress lol I don't really think verizon is gimpin, it more of a nexus clone than evo

if the phone was cdma only they would have removed the camera, but the phone has wimax and the point of the front camera is for wimax use.

Agent0Hibachi 04-17-2010 05:59 PM

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Honestly i was caught off gaurd by Verizon having something similar to the EVO coming out so soon because it came out of no where. I have a sprint TP2 and a Blackberry Storm with Verizon (work phone) an i would never leave sprint for Verizon but it just seems like Verizon is doing all they can to catch up to AT&T the Android motorolla phone was a HUGE hit an i know a lot of people who jumped ship to Verizon because of that phone an now them bringing out the Incridible an so soon its like they are going HARD at IPHONES cuz honestly if it comes out soon with some bugs it really doesnt matter cuz they already got so many ppl already locked in a new contract. they just whip out the updates and fixes .. I have no idea why Sprint wants to be so Hoo Hmm with their phones The EVO is such a big deal that if it were to drop tomorrow i know people would be sleeping outside of the Sprint stores now! Just seems like Sprint is ok with always being in 3rd place in the Cell phone war.

eman 04-18-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent0Hibachi (Post 1704554)
Honestly i was caught off gaurd by Verizon having something similar to the EVO coming out so soon because it came out of no where. I have a sprint TP2 and a Blackberry Storm with Verizon (work phone) an i would never leave sprint for Verizon but it just seems like Verizon is doing all they can to catch up to AT&T the Android motorolla phone was a HUGE hit an i know a lot of people who jumped ship to Verizon because of that phone an now them bringing out the Incridible an so soon its like they are going HARD at IPHONES cuz honestly if it comes out soon with some bugs it really doesnt matter cuz they already got so many ppl already locked in a new contract. they just whip out the updates and fixes .. I have no idea why Sprint wants to be so Hoo Hmm with their phones The EVO is such a big deal that if it were to drop tomorrow i know people would be sleeping outside of the Sprint stores now! Just seems like Sprint is ok with always being in 3rd place in the Cell phone war.

Man, that was one big paragraph!

If the Evo qualifies for 3rd place, then heck, I will be pretty happy with the bronze!

Agent0Hibachi 04-18-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 1705939)
Man, that was one big paragraph!

If the Evo qualifies for 3rd place, then heck, I will be pretty happy with the bronze!




My bad lol that was long i was venting! But yea ill be happy when i get the EVO but man i want more people on Sprint... I hate hearing people rave about Verizon's phones an iphones an its like damn were out numbered... I want a bigger voice in this cell battle!!! Hopefully the Evo really does catch fire an blow everything out the water!

Pao 04-19-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ticklemepinks (Post 1703895)
but sprint is cdma and has added the camera lol but i digress lol I don't really think verizon is gimpin, it more of a nexus clone than evo

4G/Wimax can do voice AND data. :)

Cicatrize 04-19-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent0Hibachi (Post 1706231)
My bad lol that was long i was venting! But yea ill be happy when i get the EVO but man i want more people on Sprint... I hate hearing people rave about Verizon's phones an iphones an its like damn were out numbered... I want a bigger voice in this cell battle!!! Hopefully the Evo really does catch fire an blow everything out the water!

Yeah, that'd definitely be nice. To this day, I don't understand why more people don't have Sprint. Everywhere I've lived in the past 10 years of my life, Sprint's service area and 3G coverage (when applicable) have been better than Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mo (no competition there). Not only that, their data & voice plans are what, like 60% of the cost of the competition's?

I'm guessing it has to be the phone selection. If Sprint had the iPhone, I don't think AT&T would be doing very well. If Sprint had the enV dumb phone and the Droid, Verizon wouldn't be as great either. Sprint does have some good phones, but they don't have the "popular" ones. The Evo is going to be the first popular phone (IMO) that they've ever had. The Palm Pre could have been that device, but shitty advertising from Palm probably had something to do with that failure.

acts 04-19-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cicatrize (Post 1706697)
Yeah, that'd definitely be nice. To this day, I don't understand why more people don't have Sprint. Everywhere I've lived in the past 10 years of my life, Sprint's service area and 3G coverage (when applicable) have been better than Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mo (no competition there). Not only that, their data & voice plans are what, like 60% of the cost of the competition's?

I'm guessing it has to be the phone selection. If Sprint had the iPhone, I don't think AT&T would be doing very well. If Sprint had the enV dumb phone and the Droid, Verizon wouldn't be as great either. Sprint does have some good phones, but they don't have the "popular" ones. The Evo is going to be the first popular phone (IMO) that they've ever had. The Palm Pre could have been that device, but shitty advertising from Palm probably had something to do with that failure.


i also think sprint suffers from bad reputation from the past. i'd had sprint for quite a long time now, too and i honestly have nothing but good things to say about them.

brownhornet 04-19-2010 11:06 AM

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Well i will say that there are some places where Sprint coverage lacks south of Atlanta.. but as others have said the main reason is reputation. That and the fact that customer service, even though it has drastically improved... absolutely SUCKS.


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