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Cube for VGA devices? If not what's the quickest way to make a phone call?
I severely miss the Contacts side of the cube I had on my Touch. No matter what program I was in, or what I was doing, I can call anyone of my 9 favorites in .5 seconds. Swipe up my thumb and press their face.
Now I have to press the Home button, slide over to the People tab, scroll down till I see their face. Wait for the scrolling to stop flipping through all my favorites and land where I told it to. Press the Call button. I've given up on this and now simply press the Phone button, type out their name, confirm it's calling the right person then click Send. If I can't get the Cube installed, is there another program or any other way I can get my *.5 second call any favorite* from anywhere functionality back? |
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SPB Mobile Shell has a feature for what you're looking for. You'll have to shell out $30 though.
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you can use ms voice command I have it assigned to the long talk button push. push and hold the sound plays I say who I want to call and boom it dials. I do miss the cube as well, it would be nice to have a tf3d tab like the programs tab but for contacts.
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I use the standard Windows Mobile Today screen with SPB Phone Suite (and WeatherPanel). I have 6 speed dials right on the Today screen. I tap a face and hit "yes" and it dials immediately. I can touch and hold and it gives me options such as call their various numbers, send a text, etc. I have a Contacts button at the bottom right. Works great.
Much better than TouchFlo 3D, but less flashy. |
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Forgot to add this one, I believe it's free.
http://www.touch-shell.com/ |
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Hmm, but both of these applications would replace the new 3D interface :(
I know it's possible to program Touch Flo to open a specific app when swiping up. Is there any app that replicates the Contact screen of the cube? Pretty much just want 9 squares I can replace with faces to call my favorites. |
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Well more of a disabling of TouchFlo.
I find the regular Today screen much more usable. TouchFlo3D is pretty, but requires a lot of work to get anything done. That's your complaint, and it was mine as well. Now I have the calendar, speed dials, the time, a count of unread emails, unread SMS, unread MMS, new voicemails, missed calls, and a 5-day weather forecast all on my home screen with zero touches. A single touch brings up the start menu with access to launch 12 programs. A single touch brings up my email inbox, my SMS inbox, my call history, my full calendar, or dials voicemail. I suggest you at least give a TF3D-less world a try. |
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I dumped TF3D and am using the old HTC Home screen (VGA Version) from the Touch. It has the contacts tab (9 caller) which makes life so much easier, and dont miss TF3D a bit. It also has all the other tabs you were used to....sms, email, weather, favorite apps, and ring/vibrate.
Edit: Here it is, and make sure you deactivate TF3D in the Today Screen Items, before trying to use this. You can also find discussions on this here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=49604 Good Luck! |
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THE Quickest way to make a phone call is with a bluetooth and voice command, we all know this. TF3D Saves time all around and you all know if you had a million dollar budget you'd make something just as sick, if you wouldn't...well thats why you don't have a million dollar budget. Wanting to customize your phone is one thing, but I just see a lot of nit picky things people hate on TF3D for simply because of the fact that TF3D took care of half the problems people had with WinMo and elminates the need for custom app launchers and gives a less cluttered alternative to the home screen, so now everyone still clinging to their app launchers for dear life have nothing to talk about. OS apps like TF3D are what windows mobile phones will always be about from now on. Getting rid of TF3D would be like getting an iPhone and putting windows mobile 5 on it claiming that "today screen on windows mobile is just better dude, .5 seconds for a phone call.... .5! ", so good job wasting your upgrade and all that money on something you already had ..... "but the hardware is better" ... yeah so take advantage of it, if you don't use TF3D, you didn't need to upgrade, unless you have the pro because it is the first Sprint phone with Video out which is the only thing it has that the Diamond doesn't (other than obv. the keyboard). Thats just how I look at it.
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first of all, my comment is not dumb :( .... secondly "knowledged" is not a word ..... thirdly, my first sentence, is indeed correct, Bluetooth headset with voice command is THE quickest way to make a phone call, which is what the original poster had asked about, because he was having software preference issues.
I didn't mean to say that there are NO more differences. Just that the differences, if you don't use TF3D, are minimal, and not worth upgrading to a new device for if you're not going to take full advantage of it. I like my phone to look like it is from this decade. Though it is a rough example, I still stick by iPhone scenario. Getting rid of TF3D is like getting an iPhone and then putting Windows Mobile on it and using today screen. The phone is MEANT for TF3D. If you don't use it, in my opinion, you honestly did not need to upgrade, the differences you see in performance when just using today screen are not worth using my upgrade and spending hundreds of dollars on, only reason I'm so adomate about it is because TF3D is why I bought my Diamond, if it didn't come bundled with TF3D, I would have gone with the pro for the video out if nothing else. I have a very european take on my phones, they should be able to do everything right out of the Box, it's not a car, it doesn't need a new body kit and rims to work right, you've just got to pick the right device for yourself before you buy it. And in my humble opinion things like TF3D or something similar will ALWAYS come bundled with Windows Mobile phones from now on, provided that they have the hardware to handle it (Verizon...ugh). The HTC Touch Pro, Diamond, & HD are all proof of this new trend, as is the Sony Xperia X1, which has a similar to TF3D OS APP on it that takes control of Windows Mobile and give you more of an Apple Style "Spaces" type of feel as opposed to TF3D Style (just look up youtube demo's of the X1, I think it has a lot of potential, don't know why that phone isn't being showcased here). To sum it all up, at the very least ALL future HTC phones will come with TF3D, this means as far as HTC, Sony, and I'm sure many others are concerned today screen is a thing of the past...and stevedog1 I honestly don't have a problem with you, we just disagree on how we like our cell phones, you like classic plain flavored burgers, and I like freshly prepared sushi, there's nothing wrong with that. You're also a fellow New Englander, which means you're probably burried under as much snow as I am right now, so I guess I could use a nice warm burger. |
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Geez....Ill-Informed. You know what I meant :protest:
Ok. You assume in your response that the OP is gonna always be using a bluetooth headset. Not good to assume. Then saying that Voice dialing with the bluetooth headset is faster than simply touching a contact picture is simply just not true. (Since you said it was the fastest way). TF3D is just another Home Plug-In that has been made to look really nice. But for many it isn't convenient enough to use daily. Its a hassle and agrevating for many to scroll through everything just to get something executed, and "right out of the box" without a custom rom TF3D actually slows your phone down. I am one of MANY that do not feel the eye candy is worth the inconvenience. Comparing a home plug-in to apple's proprietary's OS makes no sense. Touch Pro has Camera Flash, Keyboard, thicker form factor (to some a plus), Video out, and not mentioning the micro SD slot is a huge omission. Many Touch Pro users bought simply because it is expandable. PPCGeeker's and the like, buy the Diamond because of the great hardware specs, and small form factor. Not for TF3D. Oh, and It stopped snowing a couple days ago thankfully =D> |
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It is indeed a "today plugin"....but by TITLE ONLY, HTC obviously intended it to be THE OS of the phone...proof...when you first get the phone everything else is disabled and TF3D is the only thing enabled, HTC wanted it to take over Windows Mobile completely, that was their goal from the very begining when they started designing TF3D, not to have it be "just another plugin" Quote:
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Everything you just said is simply just your opinion on how you "think" everything is and should be used. Not fact.
/End Rant To the OP, disable TF3D and try other home plug-in's and see if it is to your liking. If not, all you have to do is enable TF3D again. Simple as that. |
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1 - Voice command is the quickest way to make a phone call ..... fact, you touch one button and say somebody's name, shouldn't take any more than 1-2 seconds. If you claim shortening that time to half a second by using cube directly effects your productivity for the day, it is not THIS factor that is keeping you from being productive. It is the fact that you are stressing out over milliseconds....
2 - TF3D runs like a dream fresh out of the box on stock sprint rom.....fact 3 - The Diamond, right out of the box....TF3D is meant to be the first thing you see, use, and continue to use because it is enabled as the primary OS right out of the box...........TF3D was specifically DESIGNED FOR PHONES LIKE THE DIAMOND as the primary os, THIS IS NOT OPINION. Opinion is whether or not you like it, but this phone was designed around TF3D, and vice-versa. If you're not using TF3D you don't need the hardware....indeed this is opinion, because obviously WinMo apps will run better in general. And the preference of looks and an SD card slot is opinion. But this is what I mean when people are just nit picking at TF3D....the first three things I said are absolute facts, and people pass them off as personal preference and justify themselves in not using TF3D because they don't like change. |
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FYI - TF3D is not an OS...its a GUI that runs on top of WM (Thats what she said).
And I always found the fastest way to dial a contact is to hit the talk button to get to the dialer and type in the name via the number pad. It takes literally 2-3 seconds tops. Edit - and unless you got a special diamond from sprint, there's no way it runs smoothly out of the box. |
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In response to "there's no way it runs smoothly out of the box".......I guess I have a special Diamond then. This is exactly what I mean, HTC and Sprint go through months and months of tests to make sure it runs smooth out of the box....AND IT DOES! If they didn't care how it would run and just wanted to show it off they would have put it on the Verizon touch pro...but they didn't because they knew it would run like crap, they enabled it on Sprints Diamond because they knew it would run smooth, and it does. HTC does not put out sub par devices....ever, why would they even ship the Sprint Diamond if it wouldn't run TF3D smoothly. |
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Though I should add - clearly it is not a GUI that completely replaces the default WM GUI. But I'm sure I need not explain that one to people here. Just don't call TF3D an OS :headbang:
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Ineed....it is pretty unique, its not an OS, its not an App, its not just a basic today plugin, and its not really a GUI. It's essentially a Today Plug in that acts like a GUI for WM. Thats why I always called it an "OS Application".
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Just as the Vogue, right out of the box, HTC home is there to be used to simplify maneuvering through the OS. HTC has always had a HOME plugin to do this with every device they made. TF3D is just a newer version of it made to take advantage of the 3d accelerated hardware. The hardware is also there to run 3D accelerated games and apps, and not just the home plug in. Therefore TF3D is NOT the only reason for the hardware as you say is "fact".
Voice Dialing is faster if your using your Bluetooth headset and do not want to look at your phone when driving or other activities that require your full attention. It is not faster if you use another plug in to place calls, and are not on a headset. TF3D is not the smoothest thing on a Stock Sprint ROM. If it was, then there would'nt be so many complaints. It's not nit picking. It simply is not the best option to use for many despite what your personal experience is with it. TF3D is a home plug-in that runs over WM, just like SPB, and many many others. |
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I feel special after thinking about this topic so much lol. And all I meant by OS Application is that it is an Application that functions like an OS.
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And you can't compare HTC Home to TF3D, they are worlds different and serve a completely diff purpose. TF3D is a new GUI for windows mobile, it takes up the whole screen, and has it's own set of layered tabs. HTC Home didn't even take up one full screen, and was meant to be used with other today plug ins, TF3D is totally different, it is more like the iPhones proprietary OS as opposed to something 10 times simpler like HTC Home.....This thread has inspired me to do what my whole point behind my rants are.....put down my phone and go snowboarding for the weekend. Sometimes the ability to turn your phone OFF is what makes life easier. Opinion or fact, most of what we're talking about here, all of the problems are not huge ones and can be solved in less than 5 minutes no matter what solution you use. TF3D solves most if not all problems I have ever had with Windows Mobile, I like not stressing, but I also like contributing and debating. The point of a phone is to make life easier, so now I'm going to turn my damn ringer off, take the truck, and go snowboarding for the weekend on some back country sh*t. Google Maps and my location ensure I never get lost in the woods...though thats the fun part sometimes. I think I've said all I can say in this topic, cheers. |
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Have fun.
I think the OP got more than what he/she bargained for :mrgreen:, Question answered. Thread should be closed. |
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I upgraded to the Diamond for hardware upgrades, not software. The added ram, the smaller size, the better screen, faster speed did it for me, NOT TF3D. You can't even see your tasks with TF3D, lame. |
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Steve....I think your avatar speaks for everyone who posted in this thread.
(posted from my Diamond on my way to Sunday River :) ) |
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(posted from my Diamond while skydiving mid air ;) ) |
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Only partially answered. There is a cube in development on XDA forum... but not ready that I know
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as the above poster mentioned... slither announced a comeback after being gone for a long time... he's the one that replicated the cube to work on other devices besides the touch. he said he was going to completely rework it a couple months ago, but he hasn't really said much since then so who knows if it'll ever happen. do a search for slither cube at xda...
stevedog, jquill... get a room lol thanks for the entertainment though to the op.. since you want to keep tf3d, get icontacts burt edition if u dont already have it and assign it to your homescreen soft key... in the settings, set it to open your favorites at launch.. then your 9 contacts or more will show up right there. this will save you a few more seconds and you wont have to sit around typing out people's names in the dialer. you could also assign it to the long hold of the answer key... Personally, i just press my send key and it brings up the dialer.. from there i press the contacts soft key and it takes me to the favorites of icontacts.. oh yeah, if you long press on a contact in icontacts, it will call them right away. something tells me you want eyecandy AND quick functionality. You can't have it both ways... sacrifice one or the other... or learn to deal with a couple extra flicks or seconds... as long as you don't have a severe case of ADD, it shouldn't kill you. oh and you could also get ftouchsl (the app that uses swipes to bring other programs up) and use it to launch icontacts favorites or any other contact app by swiping up... icontacts B.E. is probably one of the fastest tho. |
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I use the speed dial buttons, you just click the phone button and press and hold 2 or 3 or 4 etc....takes about a second to call someone, and you can assign 9 people just like the cube...
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I really hope that Slither comes back with a cube for VGA devices... I used my old touch yesterday and it is nice to flick, press and be connected...
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You definitely got a special diamond JQuill. Me and 2 of my other friends who have sprint diamonds did not get a special diamond. They were slow and lagged out of the box. Not only that, my cousin who works for a division of HTC told me to try out a few roms after I complained to him. I don't think he's ever used any of his htc devices as stock for long. As for TF3D, I like it and use it daily, but it's not the sole reason for this device. I don't mean to be blunt but if you think so you're a fool. Are there even significant differences between Manila TF2D and TF3D?
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I don't know where you get off saying I think it is the only reason for the device, I never said anything close to that. I'm not claiming it is the only reason for this device, I'm claiming its meant to be used as the primary GUI for the WinMo OS, MAINLY because it elminates ALMOST all need for 3rd party today plug ins. And as for the difference I wouldn't know I never used TF2D. The reason I think the Diamond is built for TF3D to be used as the GUI is....the touch HD....The HD is proof that HTC will be sticking with TF3D in future phones. They built in 3D hardware for a reason and that was to have the operating system take advantage of it, in order to create a user friendly environment....but windows mobile generally sucks, HTC can't change windows mobile itself so they created TF3D to be the new GUI for it. The Touch HD is thier flagship device, and honestly you would be a FOOL if you disabled TF3D on a touch HD. If you wouldn't disable it on the Touch HD, why Disable it on the Diamond. Does that make it clearer?
And I refuse to believe the Diamond is meant to run TF3D with noticeable lag right out of the box....do any of you realize that what you're saying is that nobody in the country has one Diamond that runs smoothly out of the box, I mean if you don't mean that then I apologize.... But seriously, I say my Diamond ISN'T a piece of sh*t and you all jump down my throat claiming I feel like I am special. I am special, f*ck you very much. Enough about that, if all of your phones suck then get insurance and get new ones. Quote:
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Sorry, I read the thread fairly quickly and thought you mentioned it being the major reason for upgrading the device. And no, it's not a POS out of the box at all. But there is a night and day difference between stock and custom roms/tweaks/hacks. If it works as well for you than that's great, but I believe you are in the minority. As for hardware acceleration, I think HTC had more in mind then using it mainly for TF3D. Check out TF2D (HTC touch 3G?) if you can. I don't think there are any significant differences other than less "pretty" weather animations and fancier picture/mail flip animations (at least from what I remember from playing with a friend's custom vogue). I think TF3D is a step forward in terms of combining eye candy and getting away from a stylus in winmo phones but it does lack a bit of efficiency and customization in some areas. I'm sticking with it for now because it's enough for me. PointUI 2.0 looks promising though :wink:
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The Touch HD being released in the U.S. would solve so many problems. I absolutely cannot wait for that phone but refuse to buy an unlocked version for $700.
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