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xplod4202 05-03-2007 09:32 PM

Faster call respond.
 
Ok here is the deal. I use a program kind of like PhotoContact pro. Its installed in my main memory. my ringtons are located on my SD card. Every time some one calls me, i see call status on my phone but no music and no picture is coming up for about 5 secs or so. and then picture comes up and the tone starts playing. Now my question is: is there any way to make this process faster? If i'll move my tones (mp3's) to main memory will it work faster?

tvith 05-03-2007 11:08 PM

if i'm not mistaken, the reson the ringtone is being delayed is beacuse it's on the SD card. Move the ringtones to the Rings folder which is located inside the Windows folder ( /Windows/Rings ). Once u do that it'll b in the drop down menu of ur Ringers (for if/when u assign custom rings for contacts or w/e) and the prob. should b fixed.

JBabey 05-03-2007 11:30 PM

if the program your reffering to is ringo... get rid of it asap.

on to business.... there is a hack to shorten he phones ability to recognize a call... but it really screws the phone up and has since fallen to the archives of most web pages.... a two second delay or so is normal I would lean towards the access delay to the sd card

redz1234 05-04-2007 12:15 AM

i have read numerous posts about different issues with storing the ring tones on the SD card. delays being one of them so my suggestion is to also move the ring tones back to the main memory.

-ReDz

UTSAFTW 05-04-2007 10:26 AM

I would concur that the best place for a ringtone would be on on the device's memory itself rather than the miniSD card. From experience, I have missed many calls due to a delay in ringing when I have had a ringtone on the miniSD card.

Trident 05-04-2007 10:26 AM

I'm not sure if it was PCP itself or if it was having some sort of conflict with another program, but I found that it did the same thing no matter where I stored my ringtones. It was worse on the sd card, but not much.
Another thing that makes a difference is the size of the ringtone file and the rate it was recorded in. I try to avoid anything over 100Kb & 32Kb/s.
I use the hack that was referred to above and find that it makes a significant difference. It's called the SCI [Slot Cycle Index]- requires you to have your MSL and be comfortable doing a little tinkering with settings that could really screw things up, but if done correctly makes a nice difference. If a search for the procedure comes up empty, repost and I'll point you in the right direction. I know it can be found at pdaphonehome.com.

xplod4202 05-04-2007 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBabey
if the program your reffering to is ringo... get rid of it asap.

on to business.... there is a hack to shorten he phones ability to recognize a call... but it really screws the phone up and has since fallen to the archives of most web pages.... a two second delay or so is normal I would lean towards the access delay to the sd card

The program that i am using is Inesoft Address Book v 1.67. I will look in to making the tones shorter, because if i'll put even 3 tones in my main memory in their present state, i will loose all my available space.

coreyoli 05-04-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplod4202
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBabey
if the program your reffering to is ringo... get rid of it asap.

on to business.... there is a hack to shorten he phones ability to recognize a call... but it really screws the phone up and has since fallen to the archives of most web pages.... a two second delay or so is normal I would lean towards the access delay to the sd card

The program that i am using is Inesoft Address Book v 1.67. I will look in to making the tones shorter, because if i'll put even 3 tones in my main memory in their present state, i will loose all my available space.

That could be your problem.. Large files = longer load times...

TechnoHippie 05-04-2007 02:41 PM

1. Use small files for ringtones.
2. Do not put ringtones on sd card.
3. Do not use midi files for ringtones.
4. If you're sure the above 3 are ok - do the slot cycle index hack.

xplod4202 05-04-2007 04:34 PM

Ok, i will try doing all that.

Trident 05-04-2007 06:12 PM

Two tricks to creating smaller ringtone files.
1. Use a good sound editor that allows you to create a "mono" file from a larger stereo file; allows you to change the bitrate of the file; and allows you to save in different formats.
2. Once you have gotten it nice and small, convert it to a wma. You lose sound quality, but on the speaker it's coming out of, you'll never be able to tell. MS has addins for WMP that allow the coversion very easily. Your sound editor might also.

xplod4202 05-05-2007 09:50 PM

I use Audacity.

Trident 05-05-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xplod4202
I use Audacity.

Audacity will work, although it won't let you save as a .wma file.
Just save as an mp3 or wav and convert.
I also just found a site that has a ton of great ringtones already created in numerous formats.
http://www.personalwireless.org/tools/Ringtones/

xplod4202 05-05-2007 10:52 PM

Nice site, not a lot of tones though :(

tvith 05-06-2007 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplod4202
if i'll put even 3 tones in my main memory in their present state, i will loose all my available space.

So ur basically putting whole songs into the /Windows/Rings folder? Don't do that, make them around 25seconds long. Infact, go to the "Ringtones" section of PPCGeeks and test try a few of the ringtones on there... I even uploaded the one i used Ludacris - Girls Gone Wild. Now u don't have to use it or anything, just go to the section download a few of them, try them out, making sure u keep it in the main memory and not the SD card, and see how the phone reacts. This way u can tell if it's something w/ ur phone or if it was the SD card. My guess would b the SD card is causing the prob.

Like i said, i've uploaded the one that i use and it works fine for me, I do have a few others, and they all come in fine, i always put them in the Rings folder which is located inside the Windows folder.

Good Luck

nuguy 05-06-2007 04:36 AM

I posted the Slot Cycle Index hack in the wiki a few weeks ago, It works great set on 1 for me, and will help.

But the biggest problem I think your having is going to be resolved with the files gatting optimised as discussed.

xplod4202 05-06-2007 10:06 PM

Thanks for the help. I made my tones less then 20 sec, put them in main memory, changed index slot to 1. and i get a faster respond time. Now i just have to free up some more main memory, so i can put more tones :)


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