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Re: Apache owners???????

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Originally Posted by weedahoe (Post 351752)

No, keep the Titan, drop the Vogue and forget about the Apache in your case. There are software and hardware advantages the Titan has over the Apache. The Vogue I just dont personally like.

Im not going to go compare the two (Titan and Apache) because there are so many threads on it already plus all you would have to do is go to the manufactures site and get all the info you needed and see why the Titan has those advantages over the Apache. But at the same time go look at the Diamond and read its specs as well.

Oh I am definitely keeping my titan as I love it. Not gonna drop the Vogue though because I like the look, feel and speed of it. Either way, even if the Apache was total crap, I could always use it as a guinea pig as I am learning quickly and want to get into development. Plus.....it's FREE :mrgreen:. As or the Diamond, I will definitely be getting my hands on one as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by PolloLoco (Post 351879)

The advantages of the 6700 are in video processing. The Titan was in theory superior, but lacks video drivers. As a result, when playing video games or watching movies on your PPC, it'll lag significantly compared to a 6700. A Titan can't even play a VGA encoded video full speed with sound. If you use a PPC for emulating old video game systems, the 6700 is arguably still the best phone for that. You'd get MUCH better framerates. Also, there's a program from emulamer.com written for the 6700 that allows you to press two buttons at once for gaming. IE diagonals or running and jumping in Super Mario.

The culprit is the Qualcomm processor. Even the Titan 2, and the upcoming Diamond and Raphael are slower in video even though they're 520 mhz processors. I've done head to head benchmarks against the Diamond and Touch(Vogue) - the results aren't even close, if my phone were overclocked it'd be embarassing.

For more info, there's a website you should google about a potential HTC class action lawsuit, because the new phones are actually a step back from the 6700. Also, the new phones could theoretically be superior to the 6700 if drivers for the existing hardware were released. Google the class action website or check xda developers.com for more information.

Wow, somebody has done their homework. (insert non-working applause smiley here) That is definitely news to me. I knew there had to be something cool lurking inside that machine.

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Originally Posted by PolloLoco (Post 352099)

Gotcha. I dug up that old thread for reference:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=397478&page=2

I've read that some users got limited usage from the Diamond Unlocked and then used on AT&T. But they didn't get full speeds on internet access and worse reception in calls.

I was debating if I'd finally upgrade my 6700 to the HTC Raphael with the same processor specs as the Diamond - but thanks to the benchmarks, I'm probably going to hold back. The Raphael even features TV Out, but how good is that if it can't even properly play back VGA? I've heard low bitrates at VGA play fine, however.

Very, very interesting. Much appreciation.

Re: Apache owners???????

6700 kb fix you can download it here. http://emulamer.com/6700kbfix.html It works great just make sure its running in the backround when you are playing your game, and it only works on the keyboard not the keys on the face of the phone.

Re: Apache owners???????

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Originally Posted by yamus08 (Post 352363)

I could always use it as a guinea pig as I am learning quickly and want to get into development. Plus.....it's FREE :mrgreen:.

I knew there had to be something cool lurking inside that machine.

that's what I keep mine around for, also the 6700 is easy to remove the camera, so if you ever find yourself in a situation where you can't have a camera phone, just pop it out.

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Originally Posted by livinonnosleep (Post 352891)

Thanks for that for sure, and get some sleep because, between the two of us, somebody is going to pass out eventually LOL. I am definitely going to try my best to get this phone. FREE TOYS are awesome.

Now I am going to take the thread in a completely different direction. Maybe I should start a new thread on this but I am going to keep this post going.

The new thought is, THE FRANKENSTEIN MONSTER. I Wonder if I could use the case from one phone and mod it with bits and pieces from other phones in order to make it something completely different and better than what most people have access to now. Especially if I could get hold of the individual parts separately, including parts from the phones to come.

Maybe just a dream and maybe even something that I am not allowed to do but it would be for personal use only. bwahahahahahha:evil4:

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ah, I doubt it, but I do plan on going Frankenstein on a mogul someday. (when mine breaks or something) since the mogul has revA and gps, I want to mount the keyboard and screen flush in my dash, and have external antenna's wired up.
goodbye car stereo..

Re: Apache owners???????

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Originally Posted by PolloLoco (Post 351997)

I personally didn't have the Diamond, it was benchmarked in parallel at my request. It was a user on the XDA developers forum who ran the same video downloaded from online - as well as the same version of TCPMP. The Diamond is available in the UK, you can readily buy it unlocked.

The Diamond ran the video (640x480, AC3 audio) at 80% of speed using the benchmarking feature. The 6700 ran at 104%. The 6700 ran at 116% when overclocked to 624 mhz.

It was disappointing to say the least. My numbers might be slightly off, I'm going from memory. If you are genuinely interested, I can probably dig up the thread and provide a link.

Although I believe you, there is another thread that states otherwise here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31071

So keeping my fingers crossed and hoping HTC does the right thing.

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Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 352897)

that's what I keep mine around for, also the 6700 is easy to remove the camera, so if you ever find yourself in a situation where you can't have a camera phone, just pop it out.

LOL. Nice :headbang: This is only the beginning and PPCGEEKS will keep us moving forward where we are supposed to stand still.

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Can you believe I just bought me a Diamond earlier tonight? IDK but I might be changing carriers.

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Originally Posted by weedahoe (Post 354503)

Can you believe I just bought me a Diamond earlier tonight? IDK but I might be changing carriers.

I know the thread has been taken in a completely different direction but, what the heck, I believe I am the one who started that. Which carriers are going to be carrying the Diamond? I could read but as I have posted a dozen times, I am a single dad with a 1 and 4 year old, and I would rather just get my info hear.
Thanks,
Yamus

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Who are you telling? Ive got 4 kids and it is constantly something going on. First and foremost, I also apologize for thread jacking but I was so excited last night when I bought the Diamond.

Lemme also clear up that the Diamond and Raphael (Touch Pro) are similiar minus that the Diamond has a OSD keyboard whereas the Raphael (Touch Pro) is physical.

The Diamond has Memory ROM: 256 MB, RAM: 192 MB DDR SDRAM, Internal storage: 4 GB and an OSD keyboard

The Touch Pro has Memory ROM: 512 MB, RAM: 288 MB, No internal storage and DOES have a physical keyboard.

In everything else they are the same.

For me, I wish they would have done a Touch Pro with the 4gb internal with the rest of everything else it has and I would be more happy.