Apache owners???????
 

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No, keep the Titan, drop the Vogue and forget about the Apache in your case. There are software and hardware advantages the Titan has over the Apache. The Vogue I just dont personally like.

Im not going to go compare the two (Titan and Apache) because there are so many threads on it already plus all you would have to do is go to the manufactures site and get all the info you needed and see why the Titan has those advantages over the Apache. But at the same time go look at the Diamond and read its specs as well.

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ki had an apache for a while then got the titanand loved it! it is basicly the same thing but thinner faster gps mor memory no antenna better softkey arrangment

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The advantages of the 6700 are in video processing. The Titan was in theory superior, but lacks video drivers. As a result, when playing video games or watching movies on your PPC, it'll lag significantly compared to a 6700. A Titan can't even play a VGA encoded video full speed with sound. If you use a PPC for emulating old video game systems, the 6700 is arguably still the best phone for that. You'd get MUCH better framerates. Also, there's a program from emulamer.com written for the 6700 that allows you to press two buttons at once for gaming. IE diagonals or running and jumping in Super Mario.

The culprit is the Qualcomm processor. Even the Titan 2, and the upcoming Diamond and Raphael are slower in video even though they're 520 mhz processors. I've done head to head benchmarks against the Diamond and Touch(Vogue) - the results aren't even close, if my phone were overclocked it'd be embarassing.

For more info, there's a website you should google about a potential HTC class action lawsuit, because the new phones are actually a step back from the 6700. Also, the new phones could theoretically be superior to the 6700 if drivers for the existing hardware were released. Google the class action website or check xda developers.com for more information.

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True, the multiple key presses fix was awesome for my apache. I don't know how much better video was in the device, because i haven't tried the 6800.

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Just wondering where you got the Diamond to from to test.

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[QUOTE=livinonnosleep;351893] True, the multiple key presses fix was awesome for my apache. [QUOTE]

What's the program called??

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I personally didn't have the Diamond, it was benchmarked in parallel at my request. It was a user on the XDA developers forum who ran the same video downloaded from online - as well as the same version of TCPMP. The Diamond is available in the UK, you can readily buy it unlocked.

The Diamond ran the video (640x480, AC3 audio) at 80% of speed using the benchmarking feature. The 6700 ran at 104%. The 6700 ran at 116% when overclocked to 624 mhz.

It was disappointing to say the least. My numbers might be slightly off, I'm going from memory. If you are genuinely interested, I can probably dig up the thread and provide a link.

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Yeah Ive seen GSM Diamonds for sale unlocked but I obviously cant use a GSM you know? Im watching one now for sale on an auction site to see how much it goes for.

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Gotcha. I dug up that old thread for reference:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=397478&page=2

I've read that some users got limited usage from the Diamond Unlocked and then used on AT&T. But they didn't get full speeds on internet access and worse reception in calls.

I was debating if I'd finally upgrade my 6700 to the HTC Raphael with the same processor specs as the Diamond - but thanks to the benchmarks, I'm probably going to hold back. The Raphael even features TV Out, but how good is that if it can't even properly play back VGA? I've heard low bitrates at VGA play fine, however.

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Oh I am definitely keeping my titan as I love it. Not gonna drop the Vogue though because I like the look, feel and speed of it. Either way, even if the Apache was total crap, I could always use it as a guinea pig as I am learning quickly and want to get into development. Plus.....it's FREE :mrgreen:. As or the Diamond, I will definitely be getting my hands on one as soon as possible.


Wow, somebody has done their homework. (insert non-working applause smiley here) That is definitely news to me. I knew there had to be something cool lurking inside that machine.

Very, very interesting. Much appreciation.

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6700 kb fix you can download it here. http://emulamer.com/6700kbfix.html It works great just make sure its running in the backround when you are playing your game, and it only works on the keyboard not the keys on the face of the phone.

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that's what I keep mine around for, also the 6700 is easy to remove the camera, so if you ever find yourself in a situation where you can't have a camera phone, just pop it out.

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Thanks for that for sure, and get some sleep because, between the two of us, somebody is going to pass out eventually LOL. I am definitely going to try my best to get this phone. FREE TOYS are awesome.

Now I am going to take the thread in a completely different direction. Maybe I should start a new thread on this but I am going to keep this post going.

The new thought is, THE FRANKENSTEIN MONSTER. I Wonder if I could use the case from one phone and mod it with bits and pieces from other phones in order to make it something completely different and better than what most people have access to now. Especially if I could get hold of the individual parts separately, including parts from the phones to come.

Maybe just a dream and maybe even something that I am not allowed to do but it would be for personal use only. bwahahahahahha:evil4:

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ah, I doubt it, but I do plan on going Frankenstein on a mogul someday. (when mine breaks or something) since the mogul has revA and gps, I want to mount the keyboard and screen flush in my dash, and have external antenna's wired up.
goodbye car stereo..

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Although I believe you, there is another thread that states otherwise here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31071

So keeping my fingers crossed and hoping HTC does the right thing.

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LOL. Nice :headbang: This is only the beginning and PPCGEEKS will keep us moving forward where we are supposed to stand still.

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Can you believe I just bought me a Diamond earlier tonight? IDK but I might be changing carriers.

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I know the thread has been taken in a completely different direction but, what the heck, I believe I am the one who started that. Which carriers are going to be carrying the Diamond? I could read but as I have posted a dozen times, I am a single dad with a 1 and 4 year old, and I would rather just get my info hear.
Thanks,
Yamus

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Who are you telling? Ive got 4 kids and it is constantly something going on. First and foremost, I also apologize for thread jacking but I was so excited last night when I bought the Diamond.

Lemme also clear up that the Diamond and Raphael (Touch Pro) are similiar minus that the Diamond has a OSD keyboard whereas the Raphael (Touch Pro) is physical.

The Diamond has Memory ROM: 256 MB, RAM: 192 MB DDR SDRAM, Internal storage: 4 GB and an OSD keyboard

The Touch Pro has Memory ROM: 512 MB, RAM: 288 MB, No internal storage and DOES have a physical keyboard.

In everything else they are the same.

For me, I wish they would have done a Touch Pro with the 4gb internal with the rest of everything else it has and I would be more happy.

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Isn't it also true that the Diamond has no storage card slot and the Rafael does?

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Yes, you are correct, the Diamond does not have an expansion slot whereas the Touch Pro does. Also the Diamond in Tri-band and the Touch Pro is Quad for those interested in knowing.

There are already forums for the Diamond and Raphael (Touch Pro) but oddly enough they are for Sprint. I guess they forgot they will be for VZW as well. I guess they will correct that later down the road.

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Weedahoe,

Sweet - it looks like you bought a Diamond. Hopefully you can confirm or deny the video results I got from that other user. I provided the link to the video file in the thread I attached. By the way, that's a nice dog in your profile pic. Is that an American Mastiff and is it yours?

Maxx134 hopes that updated drivers will or have improved video, but a new post was added to the thread from the Diamond forums. A user basically complains about video performance in relation to his older devices. So I suspect that it's still a problem.

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Yeah, Im definately gonna give it w work out.

As for the dog, that is a Mastiff. There really is no such thing as an American Mastiff. People recognize the breed as an English Mastiff because the English used them to guard castles in those ages but AKC only recognizes them as Mastiffs. However there are other types of Mastiff such as Bull and Cane Corso, ECT.

I have 2 females and a male Mastiff. My one female just has 16 pups on July 2nd so we are really excited. I used to breed and raise Rottweilers and Dobermans but Mastiffs sell for A LOT more. Plus most people are scared of a 200+lb dog.

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I don't know which I'd be more scared about... any mammal that can give birth to 16 of anything sounds pretty strong to me. I didn't know there was any dog that could get over 200lbs. The 120lb dogs I've seen look pretty huge to me.

Back OT: I'm really looking forward to having a CDMA VGA device. The conjecture about who will have it first and whether the Diamond, TouchPro or TouchDual will be out first is interesting, but really doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. The difference likely won't be that much. I'm hoping that my Apache makes it to when the Pro/Rafael comes out, but if it dies when the Dual or Diamond are here, I'll have to live with either of them. Hopefully the Dual will cost significantly less than the other two.

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Weedahoe, definitely get back to us with your observations.

As to the Mastiffs - that's awesome, I love those dogs. I was researching them, then got worried about the need to move a 200+ pound dog if it ever got sick and needed to go to the vet. As to the American Mastiff comment - there's a breeder named Flying W Farms I believe, that's bred a variation of the English Mastiff with a dry mouth. In other words, it doesn't drool as much. If you're a breeder, you've probably already heard of them, which explains your comment about "American Mastiffs" not being recognized by the AKC.

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Im not gonna take away from the thread with our common topic here so chked your PMs

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my buddy's arm just got chewed up by a mastiff.. it was a year old, got put down... :(

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Not sayng they cant or worn but you usually do not hear of a mastiff being aggressive or violence by nature. However, like everything else, it can be made to preform that way or may have other things involved that led up to it. Mastiffs are not cheap so I hate to hear about you bud and the dog.

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yea, I know we're way off topic here, but he had it comming, he's way too confident around dogs. another friend has a alaskan wolf and he playes way ruff with it, but has done it since it was a pup.
his "trowing" arm is healing nicely though. (we're big Disc Golf'ers)

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I am completely disturbed about all of your use of my thread as the OP to talk about dogs. I am quickly going to report you to the mods and ask that you be suspended from the forum.....
Ok....I hope everyone noticed the sarcasm there. I got all the info I needed and, not to get off topic LOL. I am getting the Apache if I can. I think bull mastiffs are super cool dogs but I;d hate to meet one in a dark alley.

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Even if you dont get that Apache, they are super cheap now with the release of the 6800 and 6900 and soon to come Diamond. It is an awesome device but more and more people are moving forward with the newer devices. Let us know how everything works out for you.

BTW, Mastiffs are bigger than Bull Mastiffs

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I just got some disappointing confirmation that the Diamond can't handle emulation as well as the 6700. Here's a post from a Diamond user, keep in mind that all of the emulators mentioned work faster than fullspeed on a 6700 when throttling is removed:

"Glad to know your emulator is out there. Honestly, I thought that by upgrading to the HTC diamond would make games a lot faster, but that wasn't the case. On my previous HTC Tytn (and even the HTC Wizard) game gear and NES games would play at full speed on MorphGear with no frameskip, so I'll be honest, I didn't have much interest in Smartgear.
But now that I have the diamond...the 640x480 resolution screen is beautiful and may have four times the pixels, but it also makes MorphGear four times slower. PicoDrive and PocketSNES also run significantly slower...I was about to give up hope of emulation on the Diamond when I remembered SmartGear.
Your emulator is by FAR the fastest on VGA screens. For example, with throttling turned off, Zelda: Oracle of Seasons runs at an average of 75fps on scaled fullscreen (that's taking up about 70% of the screen in portait mode), but in MorphGear, only taking up 50% of the screen the game only runs at 28FPS. MorphGear is damn slow.
Keep up the great work and I hope to see an SNES emulator soon!"

The primary emulator discussed is smartgear which as to be purchased, but I can recommend for excellent Turbografx16 emulation.