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willysdad 03-10-2007 04:57 PM

PPCGeeks and Profit.
 
This might kind of long, But there is a point and a general question.

A few weeks ago I was at my local watering hole enjoying a pint, When my phone rang. I answered and spoke (Wife) then hung up, the guy next (suit type, nodding aquintance).
says "Hey, I got the same phone from work, Does yours have a problem WiFi and tethering."
I say "Not anymore."(courtesy of PPCGeeks, Thanks Again everyone.)
So give him the web address pat myself on the back and go back to my pint.
A week later I see him and ask what he thought of the site and whether or not it was useful.
He says "I looked at it, But it was all Greek to me."
So I say "Well let me see your phone?"
Long story short I used a bunch of reg tweaks and swapped memory cards downloaded some programs and He paid my tab.

Here's where the moral and ethical question comes in.

I ran into him again last night and he was elated at the performance and stability of his "New" phone and we got to talking about the ROMs and AKUs that are out and he got more excited (It was mostly Crown Royal).
So we went over to my house and I set him up with a new ROM and some custom themes and ringers. We talked some more and he offered me 50 bucks, which I took. (He was kind of a pain in the ass and really not into learning the process. Just wanted me to fix it.) Btw half of the 50 bucks has been donated to PPCGeeks.

Anyway about 15 minutes ago I got a call from the same guy saying everyone in his division (Marketing) wants me to "Fix" their phones and pay me.

I feel that the information has been given to me freely and that I should do the same, But if they are a bunch of wankers and don't want to learn how to use their phones and just want someone to fix it. Taking their money and splitting it with PPcGeeks (unless someone has a better idea, by all means say something.) is probably the best bet.

Thoughts?

computercarl 03-10-2007 05:12 PM

Weel, Here's my 2 cents. Others might feel different. YMMV.

If he doesnt want to take the time to learn how to do it himself, and would rather pay someone else to do it, where is that a bad thing for you? I commend you on donating 1/2 of that 50 here. Dont forget, your time isnt free. The information has been given to you for free, because you chose to come here, and read and learn. He (and his division) apparently doesnt want to do that. So, don't charge him a ton, but charge him whatever you feel your time is worth.

Remember, you arent charging him for the data, just your time.
I would hope that most others here would feel the same.

Whatever you can donate will greatly be appreciated, but again remember, your time isnt free. If it is, I have some work for you ;)

willysp 03-10-2007 05:16 PM

As you said, they don't just want the info we've all been freely given here, they want you to do it for them.

So, accepting their money makes sense to me.

By contrast, I showed a co-worker (who also has a 6700) all the things I've done to my phone. He downloaded and flashed a ROM, had some questions. A couple of iterations of this and he's done. Money made no sense in this (different than yours) case.

vtigre 03-10-2007 06:36 PM

Hey, don't sweat it.

If they aren't into learning how to do it. Then you do it yourself.

There are a lot of phone shops using free software to load up ringtones for people at about a dollar a song in some shops.

What is wrong with using what you learn here and make some money out of it. Any information you get for free, from library, school, friends etc can be done for money.

Your time is not free, like others said, so if they want to pay, go for it. Your still helping the community by finding the many bugs that might still be out there.

As long as they know its free, like you said you told the guy, then you fine by me. I say keep the spirit of free, but if someone wants to pay then its fine.

The idea of spliting what you make with ppcgeeks is great but i think its up to you but its the best idea.

Wideawake 03-10-2007 06:47 PM

wow nice story :) I haven't had that happen to me but I have had a lot of ppl ask about fixing them. (broke miniusb or dropped in water) I appreciate you donating to help with hosting costs. But as stated above its ur time and u do as u please. I do this because of my love for devices. I'm sure ur the same. So if u want to contribute to the site then feel free but if not that's ok also. ;)
Thanks again,
Mike

allanak 03-10-2007 08:42 PM

I took this take on it: What's the difference between this and say...fixing someone's computer? Be it spyware removal, upgrading hardware, etc etc. Doesn't really matter.

The info is out there (and lots of it!) on accomplishing any of these tasks on one's own. It's not rocket science. Like Carl mentioned, time is money, right? Kudos to donating to the good cause that is ppcgeeks :D Good karma is sure to follow.

Alwaysbelieve1 03-10-2007 09:09 PM

These people have hit the nail on the head.

Feel good about taking their money. Do what you feel is right and that is the most important thing. You probably put in hours and hours of sweat and blood to learn what you know about PPCs. If they want to skip that step and pay you for your time that is the same as taking your car in to a mechanic instead of learning how to do it yourself.

Goodluck. Don't brick a phone. LOL ;)

Sogarth 03-10-2007 09:12 PM

Just be aware, though, of one particular problem...

You do know that you're going to end up playing tech support for them all, right? That's kind of the catch. :wink:

TheRocoLoco 03-11-2007 12:43 AM

I don't think that you should hide the source of your information when asked about it (ppcgeeks.com). But besides that, if you have a service to offer someone that they are willing to pay for then this is just simply their money being used for what it was meant for. (spending).

and BTW I know people who charge $150 per hour for this service.

Technology Service is still growing in need everyday. Windows mobile phones are no different. It's a great then to be able to make mone doing something you enjoy.

PaulFix 03-11-2007 01:07 AM

Good for you, my buddy gave me a portable gps handheld unit after I set him up with the same rom and hacks I made and set up


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