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Trident 11-26-2007 09:53 AM

GPS navigation software
 
I'm looking into getting a portable GPS and stumbled upon this.
Our phone isn't listed, but quite a few similar ones are. Will this work with a WM6 Apache? If so, do I have to purchase an additional antenna or anything?

TonyDiv 11-26-2007 11:14 AM

Nope. Two reasons.
First, it looks like it comes on a regular SD card, and second, the 6700 isn't truly "GPS enabled".

Trident 11-26-2007 01:12 PM

Well, I'll take it that #2 is correct and that kills that idea.
Thanks. I didn't know if all the GPS stuff might have become available with the WM6 ROMs.

It does come on a miniSD card and with adaptors for SD.
[Not like it would be that difficult to transfer the files onto a miniSD if it was a regular SD card...]

TonyDiv 11-26-2007 07:01 PM

Actually, a lot of these "pre-loaded" cards have copy protection. I have some Navteq maps for my sailboat that are on a CF card that can't be copied without trashing everything.

familydog 11-26-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyDiv (Post 129654)
Nope. Two reasons.
First, it looks like it comes on a regular SD card, and second, the 6700 isn't truly "GPS enabled".

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TONY..YOUR AN IDIOT.... WHY...WOULD YOU TELL SOMEONE THIS...YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT...

1. THE 6700 HAS A MILITARY GRADE GPS CHIP IN IT... AND WHEN YOU ADD HELMIS ROM.. AND THEN GO INTO SETTINGS.. YOU WILL FIND THAT THE GPS ICON APPEARS... YOU CAN ENABLE THIS ICON WITH A REGISTRY HACK IN WM5 AND EVEN WIN CE ... WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THE CONFIGURATION OF PORTS THAT YOUR GPS CHIP HAS AVAILABLE ... WITH IT DISABLED FROM THE CARRIER YOUR GPS CHIP USES ONE PORT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CARRERS SYSTEM... WITH THE REGISTRY HACK DONE ..AND THE ICON APPEARING...IT ALLOWS MULTIPLE I/O PORTS TO BE USED ON THE GPS CHIP... SO THAT THE GPS CAN DO MULTIPLE
PROGRAM SUPPORTS AT THE SAME TIME...

SO YOU WERE A DOPE ON THAT ONE TONY...


2. IF YOU READ THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE
Garmin Mobileâ„¢ XT .....EINSTEIN...ER..TONY...YOU WILL SEE THAT IT COMES WITH 2 CARDS!!!!! 2 TONY... A MINI SD..AND REGULAR SD.... SO IT WILL FIT THE 6700.... IN FACT..IVE ALREADY SENT OFF A PURCHASE FOR IT... AND WHEN I GET IT.. AND GET IT CONFIGURED TO THE 6700 AND IT S UP AND WORKING... ILL BE SURE TO DROP IN HERE AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER BLACK EYE..


IM SORRY... BUT I JUST DONT SUFFER TECHNOLOGICAL IDIOTS VERY WELL.... AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AND IDIOT AND THE MERELY UNINFORMED OR TECHNICALLY UN SAVY... ONE IS PERFECTLY OK TO BE... THE OTHER IMAGINES THEMSELF TO BE SOMETHING THEIR NOT...

HOW ABOUT YOU STICK TO LEGGOS AND AA BATTERIES TONY.... LEAVE THE TECHNICAL STUFF TO US THAT CAN ..... I MEAN MAN... IT TOLD YOU RIGHT ON THE PAGE THE GENT WHO ASKED..THAT IT CAME WITH A MINI SD CARD.... AND YOU TOLD HIM IT DIDNT... WHAT A DORK...

NOW..FOR ACCESSING THE PORT CONFIGS FOR THE GPS CHIP...THERE IS A FREE PROGRAM THAT DOES THAT...IVE DOWNLOADED IT ONCE BEFORE...SO WHEN I GET THE HARDWARE...IF THEIR SOFTWARE OR FIRMWARE DOESNT SOLVE THE INSTALL TO THE INTERNAL GPS CHIP.. ILL FIGURE OUT THE PORT CONFIG AND POST IT HERE SO THAT ALL CAN USE IT... ITS REALLY A PRETTY SIMPLE OPERATION TO DO WITH THE CONFIG PROGRAM THATS AVAIL... IN FACT..IT WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING ADDITION TO THE KITCHEN.... BUT IM NOT A KITCHEN PERSON... SO ILL LEAVE THAT TO OTHERS WHO KNOW HOW.... ADIOS FOR NOW...BACK WHEN ITS WORKING...

Jeff_Birt 11-26-2007 08:19 PM

Moderators,

Is this type of crap from 'family dog' allowed on this forum??

What a tool....

LadySaat 11-26-2007 08:20 PM

whoa, my eyes hurt.

If this is true, which I swear after reading the debates going around months ago it was gen. consensus it wasn't, then why aren't all the 6700 gods using this already? This would eliminate the need for the 200+ dollar "toy" I just bought.

weedahoe 11-26-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familydog (Post 129950)
THE 6700 HAS A MILITARY GRADE GPS CHIP IN IT...

Do you have something that supports this finding? A manufacture? Any specs? Chip architecture type?

I would love to see some of this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by familydog (Post 129950)
IF YOU READ THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE Garmin Mobile™ XT .....EINSTEIN...ER..TONY...YOU WILL SEE THAT IT COMES WITH 2 CARDS!!!!! 2 TONY... A MINI SD..AND REGULAR SD....

Dog, you need to go back and read yourself as it clearly sayd it comes with an MicroSD and convertors. To save you the time I C&P the info from the page.

Simply plug the microSD card (with miniSD and standard SD card converters) into your compatible phone with built-in GPS and go.

What's in the Box:
microSD data card preloaded with:
City Navigator® NT street maps and
Garmin Mobile XT navigation software
miniSD and SD adapters
Quick start manuals


Quote:

Originally Posted by familydog (Post 129950)
IM SORRY... BUT I JUST DONT SUFFER TECHNOLOGICAL IDIOTS VERY WELL.... AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AND IDIOT AND THE MERELY UNINFORMED OR TECHNICALLY UN SAVY... ONE IS PERFECTLY OK TO BE... THE OTHER IMAGINES THEMSELF TO BE SOMETHING THEIR NOT...

Keep in mind that everyone is here to learn, not be badgered and assaulted. I am MORE than certain you do not know everything there is to know about the 6700 and you should not portray yourself to be more knowledgable than the next. I am certain I know some things you dont and you likely may know a few tricks that I do not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by familydog (Post 129950)
HOW ABOUT YOU STICK TO LEGGOS AND AA BATTERIES TONY.... LEAVE THE TECHNICAL STUFF TO US THAT CAN ..... I MEAN MAN... IT TOLD YOU RIGHT ON THE PAGE THE GENT WHO ASKED..THAT IT CAME WITH A MINI SD CARD.... AND YOU TOLD HIM IT DIDNT... WHAT A DORK...

Again, it doesnt come with a Mini but a Micro. You need to go back and fully read everything before you start trying to unload some of your half-assed self aquired knowledge bro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by familydog (Post 129950)
NOW..FOR ACCESSING THE PORT CONFIGS FOR THE GPS CHIP...THERE IS A FREE PROGRAM THAT DOES THAT...IVE DOWNLOADED IT ONCE BEFORE...SO WHEN I GET THE HARDWARE...IF THEIR SOFTWARE OR FIRMWARE DOESNT SOLVE THE INSTALL TO THE INTERNAL GPS CHIP.. ILL FIGURE OUT THE PORT CONFIG AND POST IT HERE SO THAT ALL CAN USE IT... ITS REALLY A PRETTY SIMPLE OPERATION TO DO WITH THE CONFIG PROGRAM THATS AVAIL... IN FACT..IT WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING ADDITION TO THE KITCHEN.... BUT IM NOT A KITCHEN PERSON... SO ILL LEAVE THAT TO OTHERS WHO KNOW HOW.... ADIOS FOR NOW...BACK WHEN ITS WORKING...

You dont even have to go that far with port configs. I recently posted a mutli-oage thread with a huge compilation of reg edits which include two ways to bring the GPS icon you speak of. Go to Ebay and get you a Holux 240 and some iGuidance GPS software and you can set it all up in just a few minutes.

joejoe08816 11-26-2007 09:59 PM

TomTom Copilot Live info
 
TomTom 6 works great on my phone and has caused no problems. The other software I tried is Copilot Live although it works it crashes my phone and reboots are often required due to the product. I would advise staying away from Copilot Live.

The only thing I miss in TomTom is text to speech. It tells you where to turn but not the name of the road you must look at the display for that info.

I hope this helped

Joe

sammy95ss 11-26-2007 10:41 PM

Joe,

What are you using for a gps receiver?

Thanks,

Christian

tps123 11-27-2007 01:37 AM

I use copilot live and have never crashed my phone. I use the BT338 from globalsat

joejoe08816 11-27-2007 04:49 PM

I am using the Arkon bt339 gps receiver
the link to the page is http://www.arkon.com/gps.php
hope this helps
joe

buck95 12-02-2007 12:40 PM

Really intriged by putting mapping on my vx6700 and considering buying a bluetooth receiver and the maping software. After pricing these items and considering the setup issues, battery issues, memory card issues,viewing size of the pda screen, input ease, dont really think its worth it when you can buy a good gps stand alone unit new for $150 on sale. Am i wrong with this assesment? Be nice if you could get the receiver and software for 50$ but the cost for decent stuff is aproaching the stand alone unit price.

nermel 12-02-2007 01:05 PM

I got a RikalineBT GPS receiver for ~$30 on eBay earlier this year. Works great.

runt 12-02-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck95 (Post 134163)
Really intriged by putting mapping on my vx6700 and considering buying a bluetooth receiver and the maping software. After pricing these items and considering the setup issues, battery issues, memory card issues,viewing size of the pda screen, input ease, dont really think its worth it when you can buy a good gps stand alone unit new for $150 on sale. Am i wrong with this assesment? Be nice if you could get the receiver and software for 50$ but the cost for decent stuff is aproaching the stand alone unit price.

i use tomtom6 and an iblue 2 bluetooth gps, if i had to do it over again i would buy a stand alone gps unit sicne it would be so much more convient.

dan18 12-03-2007 12:46 PM

I got the latest tomtom6 software that i have downloaded from a torrent...put it on my minisd card and bought an earthmate receiver from bestbuy for about 100 bucks an boom...got myself a gps navigation joint.... and im also stupid cause im telling u guys that i got it of a torrent wich is illegal so just call me dumbo plz fuck me

dantecl 12-03-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck95 (Post 134163)
Really intriged by putting mapping on my vx6700 and considering buying a bluetooth receiver and the maping software. After pricing these items and considering the setup issues, battery issues, memory card issues,viewing size of the pda screen, input ease, dont really think its worth it when you can buy a good gps stand alone unit new for $150 on sale. Am i wrong with this assesment? Be nice if you could get the receiver and software for 50$ but the cost for decent stuff is aproaching the stand alone unit price.

I got my HOLUX M1000 unit for $50 shipped, and it's BT. Works with the PDA and the laptop. Also, there are a few free GPS apps, and I know they aren't really comparable in functionality to TomTom or iGuidance, but hey, it's free!

rp3319 12-03-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trident (Post 129715)
Well, I'll take it that #2 is correct and that kills that idea.
Thanks. I didn't know if all the GPS stuff might have become available with the WM6 ROMs.

It does come on a miniSD card and with adaptors for SD.
[Not like it would be that difficult to transfer the files onto a miniSD if it was a regular SD card...]

I haven't seen anything about the internal GPS being usable for anything but the e911 service.

External Bluetooth GPS works pretty well with the 6700's. My advice would be to pick up an external BT GPS and try out MS Live or Google mapping services. They can both use GPS to show where you are and do navigation for free. The one downside I've run into with google is that if you drop your data connection, it shuts down and you have to restart it. Haven't seen that happen with MS Live service.

Good Luck!

runt 12-03-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantecl (Post 134736)
I got my HOLUX M1000 unit for $50 shipped, and it's BT. Works with the PDA and the laptop. Also, there are a few free GPS apps, and I know they aren't really comparable in functionality to TomTom or iGuidance, but hey, it's free!


what ones are you using?

webking 12-03-2007 03:06 PM

TomTom 6 works well for me with a GPT-801 receiver
http://www.gopass.com.tw/Product/GPT...S_receiver.htm

but as was said, a stand-alone GPS device is probably the better choice since the cost of software and receiver for your phone is ~$150 and you will have to remember to bring that BT receiver with you too. Wish there were more phone models like the TyTN II with built-in GPS around!

runt 12-03-2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webking (Post 134785)
TomTom 6 works well for me with a GPT-801 receiver
http://www.gopass.com.tw/Product/GPT...S_receiver.htm

but as was said, a stand-alone GPS device is probably the better choice since the cost of software and receiver for your phone is ~$150 and you will have to remember to bring that BT receiver with you too. Wish there were more phone models like the TyTN II with built-in GPS around!

there are in the GSM world, none in the CDMA world :(

sheureka 12-03-2007 05:21 PM

I use iGuidance with an OnCourse receiver I picked up from buygpsnow.com for $50. The OnCourse receiver replaced a GlobalSat that wouldn't charge any more. The reason I like running the gps through my phone is that I can run lots of different programs - AstroNavigator, BackCountry Navigator, Globe, etc. - all using the gps at the same time. I wouldn't be able to do any of that with a standalone. - sheureka

rp3319 12-04-2007 01:24 PM

My recommendation re: stand alone nav unit vs. nav on the 6700 is what are you wanting to use it for?

If you're travelling a lot (by plane) and want something portable that you're going to bring along anyway, I'd say the phone will work well enough - get a cheap BT GPS unit and go. Particularly if you're talking about travelling to places where your phone with data plan will work - there are plenty of free options that work well enough - including turn-by-turn directions (just not voice commands). I went to Albuquerque for a conference recently and used MS Live nav directions with the GPS very successfully. BT unit fit in my laptop bag w/no problems and chucking both the phone and GPS into cup holders in my rental car worked ok too. Now, if you can get/use the Tytn-II that's even better with built-in GPS - nothing extra to carry along (just bring the car charger).

If you're talking about something for your car, I'd get a stand alone unit and mount it accordingly. I use BackCountry navigator on the phone for off-roading and it works pretty well for that, but if I get an incoming call, it tends to mess things up and get annoying. If I was driving on a 6 hr trip and calls keep interrupting my nav it would get annoying fast. Stand alone unit works much better for regular day-to-day use.

That's my 2 cents. I know others have used iGuidance and TomTom and seem happy enough though. I just think it's too difficult to multi-task on the phone while trying to drive to have to deal with phone calls and the nav all on the phone.

PS: I've got a Nokia BT unit that I found on clearance at CompUSA. It's about 1/4 the size of the phone and probably will outlast the phone battery. I'd get anything cheap either locally or online and not particularly spend extra for the latest and greatest hardware.

Robtao 12-05-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_Birt (Post 129962)
Moderators,

Is this type of crap from 'family dog' allowed on this forum??

What a tool....

I believe this is strike 2 for dog. Ump, how about a warning?


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