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[robmayer]

Originally Posted by aaronpoweruser

here is a violation http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259

This is not a violation, he is selling the actual phone and one of his selling points is that it is upgraded to WM6, there is nothing wrong with this.

[gguruusa]

Sadly, it's the e-bay scammers that are the cause of the forced login and donation screens.

[lschweiss]

This is probably a never ending battle. As a new comer to the PPC world, I bought a used 6700 on eBay. When searching for a PPC I also came across the $10 upgrade to WM 6.0 offers. At the time I didn't have any idea where the upgrades came from, but I had an idea that they were available free somewhere, because no Microsoft upgrade is ever that cheap. I went Googling and found this wonderful site.

I can definitely see how people unaware of where this stuff comes from would buy the upgrades on eBay. On thought that went through my head was, is it worth my time hunting to save $10. I have a strong embedded device background on other platforms, so I went hunting. I'm sure many novice users will just fork out the $10 and never go looking.

[gguruusa]

What was bad was when they started selling a link to the software as if they had produced it themselves. That's pure scamming.

[rstoyguy]

So, is having wm6.1 in the kitchen in violation of microsoft copyright laws? I remember Microsoft lawyers approached the guys at XDA about a year ago on that. They couldn't have any roms on their site, and their FTP was mysteriously always down for a while.

Just a question, not wanting to start any hate...

[Psxmoe]

Originally Posted by rstoyguy

So, is having wm6.1 in the kitchen in violation of microsoft copyright laws? I remember Microsoft lawyers approached the guys at XDA about a year ago on that. They couldn't have any roms on their site, and their FTP was mysteriously always down for a while.

Just a question, not wanting to start any hate...

Thats just Microsoft being a ditz about their products. We had a used electronic shop that bought Microsoft products used, before they came out with the activation. They forced them to give every Microsoft program to them or otherwise they would be hearing from there money hungry greedy lawers.

[prepsssuck]

I would just like to be clear on an issue. If I chose to sell an apache on Ebay upgraded to wm6 or 6.1 (non stock rom) is that considered a violation? or "morally" wrong?

[gguruusa]

If you're selling the phone, and it happens to have wm6/6.1, that's considered ok. The idea is you are selling the phone, not the upgrade. The upgrade needs to be free or you violate lots of licensing terms. Don't try to charge noticeably more because it's upgraded - that's the same as charging for the upgrade.

[prepsssuck]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

If you're selling the phone, and it happens to have wm6/6.1, that's considered ok. The idea is you are selling the phone, not the upgrade. The upgrade needs to be free or you violate lots of licensing terms. Don't try to charge noticeably more because it's upgraded - that's the same as charging for the upgrade.

Hi, thanks for clearing this up. I just dont want to be the rip the credit from the greats over hear and xda for all thier hard work.... What do you think about what this seller is selling

http://cgi.ebay.com/PPC6800-XV6800-H...QQcmdZViewItem

[Psxmoe]

Originally Posted by prepsssuck

Hi, thanks for clearing this up. I just dont want to be the rip the credit from the greats over hear and xda for all thier hard work.... What do you think about what this seller is selling

http://cgi.ebay.com/PPC6800-XV6800-H...QQcmdZViewItem

I think hes charging to put it on the phone not for the upgrade. but im not sure. Not even that i wouldnt want to send a $300 phone into someone i dont know.