Apache WM6 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0) 071117_1 Bugs/Patches - Page 27

jed · #**261** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

All of your problems sound like usb cable/port issues. I can't explain your "will only charge with the power button turned off" symptom - that one makes little sense. Let's start at the beginning - did you add OEMs or cabs that are not part of the kitchen? Does the top right LED change to solid orange when you plug in your usb cable?

My current install does not have anything installed that was not part of the kitchen. When I plug in the cable, the light does not turn orange. By cycling the 'power' button (top left button) I can usually get it to turn orange and start charging after several cycles. I realize this sounds odd, but when plugged into my laptop, it will only charge when that button is 'off.' As soon as I turn it on, the orange light goes out, the screen dims, and it stops charging. On a regular wall charger, it requires the same song and dance to get it to start charging, but it will continue to charge when I turn the device back on.

daveedem · #**262** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jed

My current install does not have anything installed that was not part of the kitchen. When I plug in the cable, the light does not turn orange. By cycling the 'power' button (top left button) I can usually get it to turn orange and start charging after several cycles. I realize this sounds odd, but when plugged into my laptop, it will only charge when that button is 'off.' As soon as I turn it on, the orange light goes out, the screen dims, and it stops charging. On a regular wall charger, it requires the same song and dance to get it to start charging, but it will continue to charge when I turn the device back on.

I get a smiliar issue with my car charger. It's even gone as far as me getting a message that I don't have a battery installed. So I have to yank the battery put it back in and it works.

I'm not sure it's ROM specific as I had this issue with the OEM ROM on my PPC6700.

sportster44 · #**263** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 11:32 AM

This ROM really is amazing! I'm finding that my battery has also gone soft on me, in fact both of them.
But they also take no time to charge right back to 100%. Thinking new batteries are needed before I go and slam the replacment phone or ROM.

jed · #**264** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by daveedem

I get a smiliar issue with my car charger. It's even gone as far as me getting a message that I don't have a battery installed. So I have to yank the battery put it back in and it works.

I'm not sure it's ROM specific as I had this issue with the OEM ROM on my PPC6700.

I've had charging issues before - but nothing like this. I've had the issue where it won't charge if you reset while plugged in, problems with car chargers, etc. This is now much, much worse, and the added facts that activesync won't work, and that this happened immediately after flashing to WM6 (I synced via usb immediately before the flash) leads me to believe there is a bug somewhere.

TMB_XV6700 · #**265** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 12:26 PM

Jed,
What happens with a new battery? I don't know this for sure, but I've seen evidence that flashing the phone when your battery is not (at least close to) fully charged can damage it. Thought I'd mention it since I didn't see any mention of a new battery in your posts.

johnny2678 · #**266** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 12:41 PM

I though I would post my issues here in the hopes that someone else might be experiencing similar problems. I TOTALLY appreciate and respect the work put into bring WM6 to the apache, however, these are some of my observations after using the kitchen for 1-2 months:

1) Multitasking - Seems much more sluggish with WM6 than with WM5. I use my phone as an mp3 player and for GPS navigation so when I'm in the car, I always have TCPMP v72rc1 running with a map application (either googlemaps, ms livesearch, or iGuidance). WM5 had no problem switching back and forth smoothly between apps, however with WM6, I frequently experience unexpected app shutdowns (either TCPMP or GPS app or both, with no predictable pattern) OR a total system freeze requiring a soft reset.

2) Screen Alignment - I am one of those unlucky users that has to align my screen once every other day or so. With the latest kitchen, my phone freezes as soon as the alignment screen comes up. The crosshairs remain in the center of the screen no matter where I tap. A soft reset is the only way to bring the phone out of the alignment screen.

3) Weatherpanel - I know, I know... this is a known issue, but it worked without a problem under wm5. I guess I'm just hoping that someone will find a way around the green screen lockup issues that the application causes under wm6 and post it here.

These could totally be limited to my usage pattern or my hardware (as most of my issues seem to be), but I wanted to throw these out there to see if any broader issues could be identified.

Thanks to all for all of your hard work on making this phone so great.

jed · #**267** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TMB_XV6700

Jed,
What happens with a new battery? I don't know this for sure, but I've seen evidence that flashing the phone when your battery is not (at least close to) fully charged can damage it. Thought I'd mention it since I didn't see any mention of a new battery in your posts.

Thanks for the suggestion - I've tried that and it made no difference. BUT - it just occurred to me to go into device manager and look to see if Windows was seeing it at all. Lo and behold it was listed there, but was somehow disabled! Somehow when it came up as a new device after the flash Windows automatically disabled it. Seems to be working fine now!

**GaMedic** · #**268** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny2678

2) Screen Alignment - I am one of those unlucky users that has to align my screen once every other day or so. With the latest kitchen, my phone freezes as soon as the alignment screen comes up. The crosshairs remain in the center of the screen no matter where I tap. A soft reset is the only way to bring the phone out of the alignment screen.

This a poblem with touchflo. If you look at this post you may find some help.

**gguruusa** · #**269** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TMB_XV6700

Jed,
What happens with a new battery? I don't know this for sure, but I've seen evidence that flashing the phone when your battery is not (at least close to) fully charged can damage it. Thought I'd mention it since I didn't see any mention of a new battery in your posts.

The requirement that your battery be charged at least [I forget the magic number]% before flashing is to prevent the phone from dying while being flashed. The phone is not charging while being flashed, so loss of battery power in the middle of a flash will render your phone into a paperweight.

**gguruusa** · #**270** (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jed

Thanks for the suggestion - I've tried that and it made no difference. BUT - it just occurred to me to go into device manager and look to see if Windows was seeing it at all. Lo and behold it was listed there, but was somehow disabled! Somehow when it came up as a new device after the flash Windows automatically disabled it. Seems to be working fine now!

That doesn't explain your wall charger phenomena. Are you still experiencing that?

BTW, how did you find your experience with the kitchen?