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schettj 11-17-2007 03:35 PM

HTC TouchFlo works ;)
 
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Very nicely, it seems, on the 6700 running WM6.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583

Ok, so now I really really love the 6700 again ;)

I installed FTouchFlo_v1.4.1.CAB and HTCCube2.cab, soft reset, and started flipping cubes ;)

All files from xda, and developed by all the great folks there, included here for ease of use. Consider it early alpha stuff, I don't think any of this is romable just yet but once it all stableizes it would make a great OEM.

Somewhat big download, 1.1MB zipped, > 5MB unzipped

Notes from others in this thread

? Problem: I installed the cube, and now my Contacts tab in HTC Home is gone!
* Resolution: Delete the registry key: HKLM\Software\OEM\MASD\QuickDial (then soft reset)

Also, only the HTCCube2.cab is needed for a fully functioning cube.

How Does It Work

Swipe your finger or the stylus up from the bottom (mid-screen) to bring up the cube. If you are using your finger, you'll probably have to press a little harder then you would think - mind those fingernails!. Pretty much it works like the touch.

HINT: Until you get the hang of it, try using your stylus to get the cube up, or to scroll in apps - it is a lot easier to get it to work with the stylus - the thing about FTouchFlo is you HAVE TO MOVE right away when you start a "swipe" - any pause at the beginning and the FTouchFlo app will decide you want to let the normal WM tap action happen.

So you need to practice that smooth "Pen/finger down and move" maneuver... once you get it, you'll have it. You can tweak the numbers in the setting file, but I'd see if you can figure out how to do it as is, first.


Issues/Support :)

You can tell FTouchFlo which apps you don't want it messing with, you just need to add the app (by name) to the exception list, then soft reset.

Edit \Program Files\Touch Flo\FTouchFloConfig.txt

Good apps to add to the exceptions list:
S2U2 - so cube actions don't work when your screen is locked via S2U2
Notes - so you can draw in notes with ease

So add
Exclude:S2U2
Exclude:Notes

Then soft-reset

Known problems

If you use device lock FTouchFlo doesn't play well.

Screen align won't work with flow running - you'll need to remove the flow links from startup, soft reset, align, return, or some other mojo - I'll see if I can come up with some clean procedure for this, but if you suffer from frequent realigns this isn't going to work well for you

More on Alignment Not working - workarounds


As you probably noticed by now, you'll need to move some links out of the \Windows\Startup folder and then soft-reset to safely disable the FTouchFlo app and regain the ability to align your screen.

Once you've got your alignment fixed, you have to put all the links back in, and soft-reset again.

I'm thinking a safer way to run is to leave all the cube/tflow links out of the \Windows\Startup folder - just move em somewhere else. When I soft reset, I just run em manually once. That way, if I ever run into some weird need to realign screen, all I need to do is softreset, I can then align the screen, manually launch the TFlo app, and I'm good to go.

I can probably make a mortscript that sits in the startup folder, and after a minute or two launches the flo and cube stuff... that would make it load automatically, but still give me a couple minutes to align the screen after a soft reset. So far I'm not resetting all that often, so its no big deal.

Oh, and if you are using the cube and ftouchflo, you really don't need to run all those "preload" links in \Windows\Startup for the cube - the cube will work fine, just a bit slow the first time you see any "face", if you don't. If you never bring up the cube, you won't lose the half meg or so of ram preloading takes, either.



Keep an eye on the actual FTouchFlo development thread over at xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

schettj 11-17-2007 03:53 PM

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Ah... some screenshots...

TKC 11-17-2007 04:00 PM

Works perfectly.

vboyz103 11-17-2007 04:13 PM

Thanks OP for posting the cab, and worked perfectly on my 6700.
Now we really don't need the 6800 nor the Touch.

schettj 11-17-2007 04:33 PM

Minor followup if you use S2U2... it does not hurt to add S2U2 to the excluded app list in:
\Program Files\FTouchFlo\FTouchFloConfig.txt
\Program Files\Touch Flo\FTouchFloConfig.txt

Soft reset after.... then you won't get a cube rotate action when you swipe in s2u2 - which is kinda a good thing :)

Man, that cube thing is addictive. For some reason, the xda cube app setting thing doesn't work, but you can use a reg editor to tweak the apps, icons, etc.

Anton2006 11-17-2007 05:04 PM

I installed both cabs and I can't figure out how to launch the actual cube ? I run FTouchFlo but it doesn't do anything ?

TMB_XV6700 11-17-2007 05:29 PM

shettj,
Thanks for posting this - very cool. Couple comments just from fooling around for 15 minutes.
1. Must install in main memory (extended rom doesn't work, dang).
2. I had Anton's problem - I had to open MemMaid and look at running processes just to confirm they were running. Started the cube accidentally by swiping with my thumb from the bottom up on the today screen (Anton).
3. The Cube seems a little gimmicky to me - a great thing to show other people, but I really can't see myself using it much, with its 4MB storage load, it is definitely a removal candidate.
4. This is my first experience with the touchflo interface, and I am absolutely blown away - the implementation just seems great. I'd use the microwave oven analogy - I didn't realize I needed it until I had it. Thumb scrolling is king!
Thanks again, shettj

schettj 11-17-2007 05:41 PM

Oops - yep need to install internal memory - storage needs is why its good for the rom :D

To launch, just swipe across left or right, or from bottom middle to top, in today :D

phuangk 11-17-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 124266)
Minor followup if you use S2U2... it does not hurt to add S2U2 to the excluded app list in:
\Program Files\FTouchFlo\FTouchFloConfig.txt
\Program Files\Touch Flo\FTouchFloConfig.txt

Soft reset after.... then you won't get a cube rotate action when you swipe in s2u2 - which is kinda a good thing :)

Man, that cube thing is addictive. For some reason, the xda cube app setting thing doesn't work, but you can use a reg editor to tweak the apps, icons, etc.

hmm I have no problem using the Cube setting to change the audio player from the default setting to WIndows Media player..
Good thing about this version of TouchCube is, it won't eat up application memory like the flash version did
One personal problem I have with this touchCube thingy is.. I HATE to see the Finger Print all over the screen..

Anton2006 11-17-2007 05:54 PM

Thanks guys, got it to work no problems ! .. Pretty nifty

schettj 11-17-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phuangk (Post 124304)
hmm I have no problem using the Cube setting to change the audio player from the default setting to WIndows Media player..
Good thing about this version of TouchCube is, it won't eat up application memory like the flash version did
One personal problem I have with this touchCube thingy is.. I HATE to see the Finger Print all over the screen..

Yes, I was able to change the media settings, but not the application settings in the cube settings app. Not sure why not, it complains about something not being installed..

Agree on the memory use - it seems fairly lightweight.

On the smudgescreen... I agree, I hate the greasy look too. You can use your stylus for doing the gestures... kinda defeats the purpose, but it does work.

I have my 6700 one hand optimized via smartskey, wm5newmenu, and a decent launcher on the today screen, so I usually just use the dpad to get where I need to go and launch stuff... plus the hard buttons. The cube and touchflow are just too fun to play with/demo though....

riironman 11-17-2007 06:48 PM

i tried making work..i swiped up and it worked but side to side..nothing. i only get just one side of the cube

schettj 11-17-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by riironman (Post 124341)
i tried making work..i swiped up and it worked but side to side..nothing. i only get just one side of the cube

Takes some getting used to... keep trying! Use the stylus just to get a feel for it. Using your finger takes just the right, er, touch ;)

Try not to delay starting the swipe, Try to be reasonably straight, try to go all the way across edge to edge.... and as a cheat, when the cube is up, try to swipe over any "line" between buttons - less likely to fire a button action that way.

Just keep playing with it...

Oh, and read the instructions for the FTouchFlow app, which is the thing doing the swipe interpretation:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

phuangk 11-17-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 124340)
Yes, I was able to change the media settings, but not the application settings in the cube settings app. Not sure why not, it complains about something not being installed..

Agree on the memory use - it seems fairly lightweight.

On the smudgescreen... I agree, I hate the greasy look too. You can use your stylus for doing the gestures... kinda defeats the purpose, but it does work.

I have my 6700 one hand optimized via smartskey, wm5newmenu, and a decent launcher on the today screen, so I usually just use the dpad to get where I need to go and launch stuff... plus the hard buttons. The cube and touchflow are just too fun to play with/demo though....

For some reason that Touch Setting application is not open up on my HTC 6800 but it works on my 6700.

Still have to say this.. This is the best touch cube I had tried in the past 2 months...

jimmiekain 11-17-2007 08:02 PM

dude thanks! this is exactly what I've been looking for! thanks a lot dude. you rule!

FatiusJeebs 11-17-2007 09:02 PM

Does this workwith the 6800 as well?

andril 11-17-2007 09:26 PM

Flo -ing
 
yeeeeeeah one that works like it supposed to looking forward to the final - keep up the good works

riironman 11-18-2007 08:26 AM

i got it working..nice app. i had to remove it because of memory issues and S2U2. I noticed i didnt even have to slide it up to activate , just swipe side to side and the cube shows up...maybe when the finished version shows up i will try it again.

schettj 11-18-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riironman (Post 124695)
i got it working..nice app. i had to remove it because of memory issues and S2U2. I noticed i didnt even have to slide it up to activate , just swipe side to side and the cube shows up...maybe when the finished version shows up i will try it again.

See my 5nd post in this topic for making the config file change to fix that - you just need to add S2U2 as an exception app for TFLo.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...66&postcount=5

As for memory issues - looks like it only uses .5mb or less to me.

agrenwa 11-18-2007 09:37 AM

<p>when using the built in notes application to draw on the screen the touchflo interfers with the hand writing (instead of drawing on the screen you end up scrollig the page), can some one post step by step instructions how to deactivate touchflo for the notes application.</p>

Noir 11-18-2007 10:09 AM

wow...just wow...I've been waiting for touchflo and touch cube to work on the 6700 for ages now...and while ftouchflo was good, this is the first version that actually works for me...best thing ever!
who needs a touch now??? plus this makes me stay on verizon's network (new customer...2 year contract till 2009)

schettj 11-18-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agrenwa (Post 124715)
<p>when using the built in notes application to draw on the screen the touchflo interfers with the hand writing (instead of drawing on the screen you end up scrollig the page), can some one post step by step instructions how to deactivate touchflo for the notes application.</p>

I guess I am online support for these apps that I did not write :D

You can tell FTouchFlo which apps you don't want it messing with, you just need to add the app (by name) to the exception list, then soft reset.

I am unsure which of these two config files is the right one, for now, I'm just coping one over the other when I make a change... It would probably be useful for someone to figure out which one is actually used ;)

\Program Files\FTouchFlo\FTouchFloConfig.txt
\Program Files\Touch Flo\FTouchFloConfig.txt

Edit - it's just the last one you need to edit.

riironman 11-18-2007 04:04 PM

ok before install 17mb storage and 17 program memory..after install and a soft reset
12mb storage and 18 program...maybe the 12mb storage gives me the sluggish performance

p0ww0ww0w 11-19-2007 10:40 PM

not working for me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 124237)
Very nicely, it seems, on the 6700 running WM6.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583

Ok, so now I really really love the 6700 again ;)

I installed FTouchFlo_v1.4.1.CAB and HTCCube2.cab, soft reset, and started flipping cubes ;)

All files from xda, and developed by all the great folks there, included here for ease of use. Consider it early alpha stuff, I don't think any of this is romable just yet but once it all stableizes it would make a great OEM.

Somewhat big download, 1.1MB zipped, > 5MB unzipped

How Does It Work

Swipe your finger or the stylus up from the bottom (midscreen) to bring up the cube. If you are using your finger, you'll probably have to press a little harder then you would think - mind those fingernails!. Pretty much it works like the touch.

Issues/Support :)

You can tell FTouchFlo which apps you don't want it messing with, you just need to add the app (by name) to the exception list, then soft reset.

Edit \Program Files\Touch Flo\FTouchFloConfig.txt

Good apps to add to the exceptions list:
S2U2 - so cube actions don't work when your screen is locked via S2U2
Notes - so you can draw in notes with ease

So add
Exclude:S2U2
Exclude:Notes

Then soft-reset

Known problems - if you use device lock FTouchFlo doesn't play well.

Keep an eye on the actual FTouchFlo development thread over at xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

i have tried everything possible and i still havent gotten it to work.
al i get is that ftouchflo is already running
no cube no nothing

TMB_XV6700 11-19-2007 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0ww0ww0w (Post 125995)
i have tried everything possible and i still havent gotten it to work.
al i get is that ftouchflo is already running
no cube no nothing

pow,
Your reaction sounds like mine in the first 5 minutes after installing. You call up the cube on the today screen by using your thumb to swipe up from the very bottom on the today screen. Gotta press kind of hard and go up about half way. Once it's up, swipe left, right, down (closes) - try to swipe on the lines. Have fun. tmb

TMB_XV6700 11-19-2007 10:46 PM

If I remember right the Cube was a running process after reset but took practically no resources before I started it up. I was looking in MemMaid to see whether they even ran after installation.

phuangk 11-19-2007 11:06 PM

anybody knows how to make "Align Screen" exclusion from FTouchFLO ??

sunny1974 11-20-2007 11:46 AM

i think it takes 5 mb of ram ... only the cube thing.. before i was running on 24 after a soft reset with touchflo running and now its 19 after soft rest.. this is worrysum.... i dunno if its healthy for ur battery..

Shrink 11-20-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phuangk (Post 126015)
anybody knows how to make "Align Screen" exclusion from FTouchFLO ??

Bump on this one! My 6700 too frequently needs to have its screen realigned but this is not possible (without removing the startup shortcuts for FTouch from the Windows\Startup folder and resetting).

p0ww0ww0w 11-20-2007 07:53 PM

i did move my thumb from the bottom to the top of the screen. and when i restart it is says ftouchflo already running everytime. is there a way to check whether its running or not cus it doesnt show up in the running programs.

schettj 11-20-2007 08:48 PM

Yep, two more notes for the first post

1) screen align won't work with flow running - you'll need to remove the flow links from startup, soft reset, align, return, or some other mojo - I'll see if I can come up with some clean procedure for this, but if you suffer from frequent realigns this isn't going to work well for you

2) until you get the hang of it, try using your stylus to get the cube up, or to scroll in apps - it is a lot easier to get it to work with the stylus - the thing about FTouchFlo is you HAVE TO MOVE right away when you start a "swipe" - any pause at the beginning and the FTouchFlo app will decide you want to let the normal WM tap action happen.

So you need to practice that smooth "Pen/finger down and move" maneuver... once you get it, you'll have it. You can tweak the numbers in the setting file, but I'd see if you can figure out how to do it as is, first.

lowestpricecopiers 11-20-2007 09:21 PM

Does anyone think this could be what is locking up my touch screen? I did install with my new ROM just befoe it locked in the "TAP" alignment screen with no reaction when I tap. If you think it might, how can I get past this screen to remove it? Thanks for the help.

schettj 11-20-2007 09:30 PM

Ah... it's built into the rom? Going to be hard to get past that initial align screen then.

If a soft reset gets you booted up without the align screen, using a process/task manager (not the simple one built in, but one that shows actual running processes) you can Kill FTouchFlo. Then, using just the dpad (since you're not going to have any touchscreen capability) get to the Align screen - I think pressing the dpad center and the right or left - key will bring it up... then align (hopefully) and then, if it works, you should power off, power on, wait... soft reset, and (hopefully) it will be aligned.

lowestpricecopiers 11-20-2007 09:37 PM

I knew you guys were geniuses! I will try it tomorrow as the phone is at work on my desk. Thanks so much for the reply. I will let you know what happens. Mark

lowestpricecopiers 11-20-2007 09:44 PM

One other question, why, if I reflash the ROM back to the stock one, can't I get rid of the problem? Just don't understand how that can stay after a new flash. Does the touchflo reside somewhere that is not overwriten? Just find this very interesting. Thanks

hoodracer 11-20-2007 10:56 PM

ok i just instaled the the first cab file and i didnt instal the ftouchflo cab file and it works with out hte istal becuaes its bult in to first file... just a quick note

cheeb 11-21-2007 12:01 AM

im not sure if this was answered...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p0ww0ww0w (Post 126779)
i did move my thumb from the bottom to the top of the screen. and when i restart it is says ftouchflo already running everytime. is there a way to check whether its running or not cus it doesnt show up in the running programs.

not sure if this was answered...you just need to remove the file from the startup folder...ftouchflo.ink (assuming you put it in the startup to automatically start after reset)...the cube program seems to install another startup file called "flo.ink" which is a copy of ftouchflo.ink so just delete the old file (ftouchflo) and leave new one (flo) and soft reset....should work...at least thats what i did.

schettj 11-21-2007 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowestpricecopiers (Post 126857)
One other question, why, if I reflash the ROM back to the stock one, can't I get rid of the problem? Just don't understand how that can stay after a new flash. Does the touchflo reside somewhere that is not overwriten? Just find this very interesting. Thanks

No, if you have reflashed, then touchflo is gone - the only way it would not be gone is if it's built into your rom.

Anyway, simple test - assuming you can connect via activesync, connect (even as guest is fine) and from the PC explore the ppc, go to \Windows\Startup

If there is anything in there like flo.lnk, or ftouchflo.lnk, move that to the \ directory on the PPC

Undock, and soft reset. FTouchFlo will not be running for sure, and assuming your touchscreen works, you can align the screen

I'm working on a little mortscript script that will kill ftouchflo and then start align, and when align finishes, restart ftouchflo.

phuangk 11-21-2007 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowestpricecopiers (Post 126844)
Does anyone think this could be what is locking up my touch screen? I did install with my new ROM just befoe it locked in the "TAP" alignment screen with no reaction when I tap. If you think it might, how can I get past this screen to remove it? Thanks for the help.

I think Schettj is correct, I think u have the FTouchFLO built in your ROM and u have a link to start up FTouchFLO in the Startup folder. This will disabled your Align screen when you first boot up your PPC after flash your rom. Try this... none stop tapping your screen be4 the Align Screen shows up, if you are fast enough, then you should be able to trigger the Align Screen be4 the FTouchFLO start. Hope this will help

sheetalc 11-21-2007 01:00 PM

Total Noob as you will realise. Just got my 6700 yesterday and the guy gave me the kitchen and directions to build a "standard rom" - i.e gave me a inclusions file. So this ROM already has TouchFlo and in my startup when I hit the "Start TouchFlo" , it says its already running. I cant seem to even get a cube (tried using stylus and finger - bottom to top swipe - no worky). Tried to explore the PPC, but I dont even see the \Windows folder. I do remember having to align on the boot after the ROM upgrade.
What should I do to get the Cube?
Thanks.


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