Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

Development has been fairly consistent, actually, and there are very good, very popular apps on the platform. In fact, Microsoft has achieved various app milestones faster in less than 1 year than Apple did in their first year of apps, so that does speak well for its future. Certainly, however, I can see how Mango's development enhancements will entice more development.

While I don't believe for a moment that the bigger screen size issue is "killing" the platform (they do have the HD7 and Focus on AT&T afterall), I DO believe that the lack of phone selection overall on carriers IS not helping the platform. I've said repeatedly that if the HD7S was on Sprint or Verizon, I'd have one in a heartbeat, but I refuse to spend a dime on AT&T-Mobile. I only have the Arrive, because I got it as a freebie through work.

Microsoft absolutley needs to market the hell out of Windows Phone, and improvements need to come faster and with less carrier-caused delays. There is no doubt about that. However, this IS Microsoft. It ALWAYS takes 2-3 product cycles to "get it right", and when they do... nothing stops them from laying the smack down on every competitor that takes them on.

The Focus has a 4" screen and the HD7/HD7S both have 4.3" screens. I have no idea why (given the popularity of the EVO and lack of for EVO Shift) that Sprint didn't insist on bringing a version of the HD7 to their network.

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

im glad someone gets it. when i can flash custom roms and themes, 3rd party UI's ill give it a go. wp7 is nothing like winmo used to be. yes mango is a nice update but it's still lackluster. if he thinks im trolling then fine, im not, im just stating the truth IMO.

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

it has been? go to xda and see how dead the forums are. the phones are too limited. im glad you like it and im not bashing you for that. but don't expect some of us former die hard winmo fans to get excited about it. that's why most of us moved to android.

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

I think you misunderstood what I said... I said that application development has been consistent. There are new apps appearing, and there are developers working on things, and there are some very high profile apps.

I said nothing about the interest levels in the platform overall. I know that you and lots of geekers are all about custom ROMs and customization, but look at the iPhone... the lack of ROMs and customization are not what makes a platform successful.

I also want to make it clear that I don't dislike Android. I had an EVO for a year, and I really enjoyed it (only phone I've had that I've actually kept that long). I choose my platform based on usability, however, and I find WP7 to be more usable which I believe will make a huge difference as Microsoft continues to develop the platform.

Anyway, I appreciate the fact that you're discussing things rationally and not just here bashing people. :)

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

says someone who's never even used a device with the mango beta installed, that's quite a credible view there btw.

I'm flashing 7720 on my hd2 via zune update later and see how it is.

I can see both sides here. But I think Eric has a point and I think you should compare 7720 with android and ios and not mango beta, nodo, or 7004.



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Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

more like 7720.xx as that'll be the absolute official version after the carrier and OEM optimizations.

Ya but for now 7720 works like a champ.

As far as development goes, check out this thread. These guys are awesome.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1236027

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Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

But you would think wp would see what sells and make screen bigger than old ass tp2.

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

its not MS that's making the screen sizes its the carriers and the OEMS. once Nokia kicks in tho there will be plenty of good stuff next year tho im sticking with HTC no matter how good Nokia is.

Man, they spend millions on surveys and shit. They sell hundreds of millions of copies of windows 7, they build an OS from scratch and get an rtm that can compete with android and ios in less than a year. Brandon Watson is straight up awesome with devs.

They know what they're doing.

They've been beta testing with us and now they're ready to lay down some serious shit. Ffc, dual core, big ass super amoled, tooth brush, all sorts of stuff.

Wait till q2 2012, they have what u want.

Remember android? All they had on sprint forever was the hero. Then evo came for the ride and it was on.

I'm getting an iPhone 5. Keeping my hd2, and nexus prime so I can rock all 3 operating systems for reals

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Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

I dont care how much they spend on this n that,.put I big screen on the device. I dont wanna wait or see why people need to wait when they just could have put on a decent size screen from the jump and been done.lol @ wait till 2012, why?

They're beta testing. They had hd7. You'll see they'll have bigger screens on all 4 networks soon.


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Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

well ya its coming but my point is why not start with big screen? not like its something new.

I can't answer that. They just didn't put out as many phones on launch. Android phones still come in 3.7" screens too, but they come out with a billion phones a week. They basically beta tested all phones for wp7, big screen, smaller screen, keyboard, cdma, GSM. Now they can start the release a lot more phones phase

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Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

I have to admit that one thing about the PC market I never have liked is the umpteen bazillion models. At work, I have 1 laptop, 1 desktop, and 1 tablet model (all HP). For personal use, I recommend 1 laptop and 1 desktop (both Dell). So when Android adopted the same trend of a new model every week, it just made me think... why? It's absurd, in my opinion... but then, I've always cared more about function over form, and I suppose all the models are to support the form over function types.

Ironic to me, of course, that Apple is so successful in their "form over function" campaigns when they only have one form, lol.

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

well, I've noticed that the variety of functions has been increasing so the model's just follow it. now if only we weren't limited by our service provider.

imagine if we had to use an AOL pc for internet the last 15years... probably be using camel's by now. ;)
(horse built by committee)

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

If I were to guess the hardware was ready way before the software..hence why it didn't make much sense for M$ to use old gen snapdragons when new ones were already being used. They just didn't calculate that far in advanced, the HD7 was meant to be continuing of HD2, and the TP7 continuing of TP2..effectively phones like the Evo was not in their calculations.

I personally do not mind having multiple choices..there is nothing wrong with bazillion models.. Because if there is a problem with 1 model I can always go with another..I mean have you ever tried to buy a consecutive model and then 1 day the company decided to swap out that 1 niche feature that you use? yeah...that is when things go wrong..my experience with products like Apple which force you into their environment is they work great when you work in their environment..but that 1 time when it matters the most you gotta do something that is outside that said environment it goes horribly wrong.

most of the time when manufacturers release models they usually are the same model just configured with better specs. Unlike macbooks they refresh their models often and try to cover all sizes and budgets.

I mean what does it matter how many models there are, just buy the one you like...

my decision for buying stuff depends on what I am buying..for my work laptops I buy dell (for the quick in-home warranty), for my gaming laptops I buy Asus (simply because its good price/features ratio and best quality), for my desktops I custom build them.

I don't buy HP much because so far all my HP stuff keep frying :/

Re: WP7 better customer satisfaction than Android, not quite iOS yet.
 

As I said, as a system administrator I DO pick one hardware platform and standardize on it until I can no longer buy that model. I have 3 models-- a desktop, a laptop, and a tablet. When I can't get that model, I update to the newest replacement model, because I know what I'm expecting.