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deadwrong03 12-14-2009 11:29 PM

Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I got my hands on a Hero for the first time today and theres a whole heap of free apps on there and loads of free apps on the iphone. I mean the Marketplace for winmo is off to kind of a slow start and there arent too many free ones in comparison.

what gives here? i kno theres ways to get free apps but microsoft needs to step up the free apps if they really want to compete

strra 12-14-2009 11:30 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
lol don't get apps from the marketplace... there are millions of free apps for WM... LOTS more than android and iphone
just look :)

djqwikcut 12-14-2009 11:34 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Here is one place and there are a TON MORE if you search google...

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/

skillzo1 12-15-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
imo most stuff for wm sucks compared to iphone apps. atleat from what i have seen and looked for.

Wesley762 12-15-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deadwrong03 (Post 1413817)
I got my hands on a Hero for the first time today and theres a whole heap of free apps on there and loads of free apps on the iphone. I mean the Marketplace for winmo is off to kind of a slow start and there arent too many free ones in comparison.

what gives here? i kno theres ways to get free apps but microsoft needs to step up the free apps if they really want to compete

I have been using WM back since the HP 520 PDA. there are tons of free apps out there. just because they are not in MS's app store does not mean they don't exist. I have used the web site below for years, before there was this thing called a iPhone and you used to carry a PDA and a phone. take a looks there is a ton of good stuff there. Google is your best friend looking for these sites to.

http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/

fryjr82 12-15-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
There are a ton of free WinMo apps but they just aren't as good as the Android and iPhone apps...

brownhornet 12-15-2009 02:27 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fryjr82 (Post 1415171)
There are a ton of free WinMo apps but they just aren't as good as the Android and iPhone apps...

Basically

Wesley762 12-15-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fryjr82 (Post 1415171)
There are a ton of free WinMo apps but they just aren't as good as the Android and iPhone apps...

Mind giving some examples?

spiritcrusher33 12-15-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I actually prefer not to have a store..and find my apps the old fashion way.. that way u know where its installed etc.. and u can just save the cabs on a flashdrive to store for later.. I went in to the app store on the bro in laws iphone.. and i got lost.lol

guess im just more old school.lol

quattro 12-15-2009 03:32 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
come on, there isn't a single app for the iphone or the droid that u can't find for windows mobile. However there are windows mobile programs that u can't find on iphone or droid. I can run the droid os on my windows mobile phone and make it look and behave just like n iphone.

Can u say that about the droid or iphone?

Windows mobile is also the only os that can use skyfire n they are the only ones so far that have figured out how to fully view a www with flash.

What was that about free apps on the iphone n droid?

Now dont get me wrong, I HATE microsoft and im a die hard Palm OS fan. But i changed to windows mobile because of the apps available to windows mobile. N think about it the iphone and droid are babies compared to windows mobile and plam. There are so many different companies and individuals making apps for windows mobile that its not possible to list all of them in one location.

Noir 12-15-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro (Post 1415347)
come on, there isn't a single app for the iphone or the droid that u can't find for windows mobile. However there are windows mobile programs that u can't find on iphone or droid. I can run the droid os on my windows mobile phone and make it look and behave just like n iphone.

Can u say that about the droid or iphone?

Windows mobile is also the only os that can use skyfire n they are the only ones so far that have figured out how to fully view a www with flash.

What was that about free apps on the iphone n droid?

Now dont get me wrong, I HATE microsoft and im a die hard Palm OS fan. But i changed to windows mobile because of the apps available to windows mobile. N think about it the iphone and droid are babies compared to windows mobile and plam. There are so many different companies and individuals making apps for windows mobile that its not possible to list all of them in one location.

+1
I just love posts like this the apps don't compare to iphone
save from a few games (which gaming is an iffy subject because its g sen or on screen based) the games are NOT end all be all. While I did love the game zenonia all of the "top games" on the iphone were ridiculously annoying and a bit of a waste of x amount of dollars.

That being said, as far as productivity is concerned, windows has it beat because of time. Windows has been here for more than a decade and it shows in the hacking and modifying. Sure there are a handful of applications in marketplace, but this is also because marketplace is

TWO MONTHS OLD!

There is a pervasive negative bias against anything windows to include windows mobile and many people parakeet and repeat things they have heard on a blog and yet have never truly used a windows device in their life.

Finally, its of course advertising and incentive. Windows doesn't have it and it should. Nuff said. So there is a lot of good reasons why there aren't as many apps but that's evolving like windows always evolves. I've had more builds of wm oses in this year than in 3 years of owning smart phones (and that includes blackberry, iphone - see iphone boredom thread, and android os)

Long story short, most application (90%) are made on either ppcgeeks or xda developers (more being the latter). So use a google =)

harlot011104 12-15-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
What deadwrong is saying is so true. Balmer and the crew over in Redmond need to pull a few heads out of some tight sphincters if they are ever going to have a loyal customer base. Apple and google have something called a marketing department that actually learns things from consumers and dynamically and proactively changes strategy to give the customer what they want. After watching Steve Balmers reactions to the Iphone and browsing throught the marketplace, I realize that Microsoft just doesn't give a crap about consumers.

mishajmo 12-15-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I've never understood the app thing. If I want to find the nearest Starbucks, I don't need an app for that. And if I want to play that little game where you move a ball bearing around a maze, I won't spend 300 dollars to do so.

HTCotta 12-15-2009 05:44 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
To be fair, if we're talking about just number of apps, quality of said apps aside, the MS marketplace is not on pace to keep up with Android or Apples stores. Android had 20,000 after a year, Apple 50,000.

brownhornet 12-15-2009 05:44 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Ok so find me a google goggle app for winmo that actually works.. and dont even bother mentioning that half azz barcode reader because i've already had that. What about the Viper car alarm for the iphone? Look we all have winmo here but lets just keep it real and admit the obvious. There are a ton of OLD apps that serve no real purpose... but most all of the new apps that are coming out go to the iphone or android FIRST... IF it even comes to winmo at all. The same way we have to sit around and find ways to port apps like Pandora to winmo and tweak the hell out of it just to get it to work for us.

stuart628 12-15-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro (Post 1415347)
come on, there isn't a single app for the iphone or the droid that u can't find for windows mobile. However there are windows mobile programs that u can't find on iphone or droid. I can run the droid os on my windows mobile phone and make it look and behave just like n iphone.

Can u say that about the droid or iphone?

Windows mobile is also the only os that can use skyfire n they are the only ones so far that have figured out how to fully view a www with flash.

What was that about free apps on the iphone n droid?

Now dont get me wrong, I HATE microsoft and im a die hard Palm OS fan. But i changed to windows mobile because of the apps available to windows mobile. N think about it the iphone and droid are babies compared to windows mobile and plam. There are so many different companies and individuals making apps for windows mobile that its not possible to list all of them in one location.

not to put you down bro, but this isnt true at all

two that come to mind #1. Shop Savvy, I WANT THIS APP, I had it on my droid and it was Sweet!
#2. I am T-Pain :)

pixelpower 12-16-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Ok its time to end the ridiculous , because thats what this is. All I see is bashing with sprinkles of information. Now lets get down to answering the question at hand. What iam about to state are facts not opinions.
1)Windows mobile is a buisness centered phone , which means there is any and every app avalible for workforce type problems.
2)Windows Mobile Market place does not represent windows mobile entirely. The Windows Mobile market place represents microsoft buisness corp. who made the windows mobile phone and brand.
The windows mobile market place does not help developers , it makes it extremely tough to sell anything.
3)The Iphone and Android marketplace was made when those pocket pc were release or just a little later. They represent thier brand entirely and offer support for developers.
4)If you need anything for windows mobile just come here or xda-developers and ask for it. I speak for everyone here , we all help each other here. Sometimes we agree or disagree , but in the end we all help. Opening a thread asking were the free games and apps , no one will know what your looking for. If you want a head start on from windows mobile games and apps here are some links you should click on
www.pocketpcfreeware.net

www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com

www.HTCfreeware.com

Check them out and tell me what you have found. Sorry if i sound harsh I didnt mean too.peace

imtjnotu 12-16-2009 03:47 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Windows market place is a freakin ripoff....7 dollars for a 2d version of a board game....6 dollars for galaga a game that is over 30 years old....im honestly thinking of jumping ship to android for its app store and better support....

strra 12-16-2009 03:51 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imtjnotu (Post 1418111)
Windows market place is a freakin ripoff....7 dollars for a 2d version of a board game....6 dollars for galaga a game that is over 30 years old....im honestly thinking of jumping ship to android for its app store and better support....

microsoft doesn't control those prices. the developer does. use google, i'm sure you'll find those or similar apps for free

spiritcrusher33 12-16-2009 04:34 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
lol i find it funny people complain bout a 7 dollar 2d version of a board game..when like strra said google is your friend.

one thing though.. if wm market place does even have a remote chance of being mainstream like apple and android.. then its gonna have to follow suit..just because us fellow geeks know where to find free apps or hack etc.. the average user isnt gonna know that nor want to spend the time looking and learning the ins and outs of wm..

I just got my wife her first smartphone. a tp2.. she is in awe atm over it.. i told her all the things she could do with it vs the iphone.. etc.. but im gonna have to walk her through alot of things. cause she dont have the time nor the will to figure out how to do a reg edit or install a new theme.etc let alone go searching for free apps.. thats where apple and google have it right in the app store etc.. easy in easy out..

If my wife bought the tp2 without me around she would be totally lost for awhile and prolly give up in frustration..

to me wm in general is the thinking man os..cause of great sites like pccgeeks and xda your only bound by your imagination...

iphone you get what they give ya.
android dont have enough exp in that to make a good judgment but they do have alot of apps and something like 70% or so are free..so thats a positive..

dvdtroup 12-16-2009 07:49 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I love my TP2 but will say that the google Gps, Spoof app, and the bar code reader on Android kicks @$$. Also they have us beat on assessories by far. Very frustred looking for a car mount for my phone. And I know all about Google, but can't find what I'm looking for

BOO B) 12-16-2009 08:00 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
This is sad. Bottom line only 1 iphone and droid is new. Easy to make an app for single operating systems. Add up all the phones that have windowsmobile on them. Windowmobile phones out sell any other phone by far. Add up all the apps for windows mobile compared to iphone apps. No there is no set store or set button to get an app on WM. But WM is by far a better operating system and will out live all the hype of iphone and droid. Just give it time.

BOO B)

mastahc411 12-16-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro (Post 1415347)
come on, there isn't a single app for the iphone or the droid that u can't find for windows mobile. However there are windows mobile programs that u can't find on iphone or droid. I can run the droid os on my windows mobile phone and make it look and behave just like n iphone.

There is no Tpain app for WM. Not that it matters to me, I have a TP and a jailbroken itouch 2g. So I can run WinMo and Android on the TP, and use the Itouch for games and fun stuff like I am Tpain.

dvdtroup 12-16-2009 09:13 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I wouldn't trade my TP2 + SERO for any of them, but right now they have some apps that I wish WM had. We were making prank calls today to our boss and wifes with a spoof app. Good times.

Pandaman 12-16-2009 09:20 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
The reason that some of the windows mobile apps look like crap could be because many are old and designed for smaller QVGA screens since WM has been around for a long time. Since windows mobile comes on 25 different phones, all with different screen sizes and processing capability, it's difficult to create WM programs that run well on all these different phones.

On the other hand, the Iphone is just ONE phone and the Android is just a couple and they all have the larger WVGA screens. This make it much easier for programmers.

i360 12-16-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Google.com is the worlds largest appz store....[-X


I do thank Apple & Google for having to make WM step their game up.

dvdtroup 12-16-2009 09:40 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
If you are reading this forum you most likely don't need a market place to get apps. But you can Google it as much as you want, the apps l listed above are not there for Wm. Its about the market, and if we like it or not the iphone and droid are the must have phones. The rich kids have them and spend alot of money n apps. If I didn't do my homework, i'd have a Hero right now.

brownhornet 12-16-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BOO B) (Post 1418797)
This is sad. Bottom line only 1 iphone and droid is new. Easy to make an app for single operating systems. Add up all the phones that have windowsmobile on them. Windowmobile phones out sell any other phone by far. Add up all the apps for windows mobile compared to iphone apps. No there is no set store or set button to get an app on WM. But WM is by far a better operating system and will out live all the hype of iphone and droid. Just give it time.

BOO B)

What kind of sense does this make? You're talking about add up all the windows mobile phones and they sell more than ONE type of phone. OF COURSE THEY WILL. It wont be that way for long though as winmo sales have been falling steadily for the past 2 quarters. Add up all the apps compared to iphone apps and you will probably STILL have a loss. The iphone app store has close to 60,000 apps.. and android marketplace has 20,000 ALREADY in a YEAR.

And NO Winmo is NOT a by far better operating system than droid and iphone either.. and this is coming FROM a TP2 user. Sometimes you just have to be real with yourself dude but this post is hogwash. Winmo hasnt changed anything about their operating system in years other than adding manila to mask the plain and outdated green windows mobile screen. Have you handled a droid yet? I have and its faster, better gps and a more responsive screen. The truth is just the truth.

chris1683 12-16-2009 09:55 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
To put the Operating Systems in perspective as far as customization goes, please see the following registry edits:

*WindowsMobile\OperatingSystem\IsCustomizable "DWORD=1"

The following registry edit's are for entertainment purposes only as these systems do not allow such actions:

*iphone\OperatingSystem\IsLocked = True
*Android\System\CreateConfusingMenu "DWORD=1"

DaBrode 12-16-2009 09:57 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I smell a troll.

isdnmatt 12-16-2009 10:27 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Two words... free tethering. I'm completely fine dealing with some inconvenience with finding apps for WM if I can connect my laptop or netbook at ANY time for free. Thats were the real connected experience is still at.

Because of the lack of hype, WM devices fly under the radar which is fine by me. Wanna use Skype on Android? Fine, it makes it call you and use your carrier's plan minutes. Wanna use Skype on WM? no problem, it uses data only and you truly do get around using your minutes.

Not to mention that you can travel internationally and have the above two features work seamlessly with the TP2. Android, not an option... Iphone? nope.

Being able to fire up Skype wherever I am in the world, and call back home with unlimited minutes is worth more than ANY app store. If WM mobiles were marketed as suggested, we would not be under the radar and everything would be locked. (And I know you can jailbreak etc, but with WM its not necessary at all)

KrisK91 12-16-2009 10:35 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skillzo1 (Post 1414859)
imo most stuff for wm sucks compared to iphone apps. atleat from what i have seen and looked for.

yeah i agree.

mastahc411 12-16-2009 10:58 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isdnmatt (Post 1419174)
Two words... free tethering. I'm completely fine dealing with some inconvenience with finding apps for WM if I can connect my laptop or netbook at ANY time for free. Thats were the real connected experience is still at.

Because of the lack of hype, WM devices fly under the radar which is fine by me. Wanna use Skype on Android? Fine, it makes it call you and use your carrier's plan minutes. Wanna use Skype on WM? no problem, it uses data only and you truly do get around using your minutes.

Not to mention that you can travel internationally and have the above two features work seamlessly with the TP2. Android, not an option... Iphone? nope.

Being able to fire up Skype wherever I am in the world, and call back home with unlimited minutes is worth more than ANY app store. If WM mobiles were marketed as suggested, we would not be under the radar and everything would be locked. (And I know you can jailbreak etc, but with WM its not necessary at all)

jailbreaking and enabling tethering(especially with blackra1n) is pretty much the same as HSPL unlocking for custom roms, and I know youve done that...

And you still have to hack the registry to do it in WM

edit: not an apple fanboy at all, i would never get an iphone or use att for any reason whatsoever, just pointing out facts

brownhornet 12-16-2009 11:05 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mastahc411 (Post 1419238)
jailbreaking and enabling tethering(especially with blackra1n) is pretty much the same as HSPL unlocking for custom roms, and I know youve done that...

And you still have to hack the registry to do it in WM

edit: not an apple fanboy at all, i would never get an iphone or use att for any reason whatsoever, just pointing out facts

I was going to point this out but whats the point lol. Some of these folks hate the iphone so much they cant see the obvious..

rorytmeadows 12-16-2009 11:07 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
I don't want my professional device turned into a game console for idiot teens...I'm glad that there's not a lot of games and apps named after dumbass celebrities.

BOO B) 12-16-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1419258)
I was going to point this out but whats the point lol. Some of these folks hate the iphone so much they cant see the obvious..

I have played with both iphone and droid. ! son has iphone other has HTC droid. I don't hate either, but you obviously hate WM. So why don't you go get an iphone or a droid and live happily ever after and quit trolling!

BOO B)

rorytmeadows 12-16-2009 11:13 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BOO B) (Post 1419271)
I have played with both iphone and droid. ! son has iphone other has HTC droid. I don't hate either, but you obviously hate WM. So why don't you go get an iphone or a droid and live happily ever after and quit trolling!

BOO B)

Yeah this guy obviously has no friends because this isn't the first time he's sitting on a forum bashing everyone.

kabuk1 12-16-2009 11:36 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
Windows Mobile has stood the test of time. It has been around for 13 years now, versus iphone & android being, what- 2 years old? Devs are writing more apps for the latter two right now because they're fresh & new, and it's easy to capitalize on their popularity at the moment. Yes, WM may not have a T-Pain app or a dedicated Starbucks finder or 20 different fart apps, but it still has way more apps than iphone & android combined. And most of them are free.

Everytime I hear the old "app store" argument I am baffled. How is it that it can be SUCH an inconvenience to some people to have to do some very light searching to find an app? Are you really that lazy that you need everything arranged in a neat little app store? If so, then by all means get an iPhone or Droid & quit bitching. Sorry if I sound harsh but its such a silly thing to bash WM about. It's like having a turboed car & whining cause you have to find a gas station that carries 91.

Lastly- there IS a distinct learning curve for WinMo. Too many people buy these devices thinking they work just like their old razr & end up overwhelmed & disappointed. Even *I* found myself lost the first time I picked up a WM device. The phone companies don't help either, advertising pretty interfaces & TV/Music services, and saying nothing about the registry or ram management. If people would just do their research before buying, maybe we'd see less iPhone & blackberry defections.

isdnmatt 12-16-2009 11:39 PM

Wirelessly posted (XV6875 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en))

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastahc411
Quote:

Originally Posted by isdnmatt (Post 1419174)
Two words... free tethering. I'm completely fine dealing with some inconvenience with finding apps for WM if I can connect my laptop or netbook at ANY time for free. Thats were the real connected experience is still at.

Because of the lack of hype, WM devices fly under the radar which is fine by me. Wanna use Skype on Android? Fine, it makes it call you and use your carrier's plan minutes. Wanna use Skype on WM? no problem, it uses data only and you truly do get around using your minutes.

Not to mention that you can travel internationally and have the above two features work seamlessly with the TP2. Android, not an option... Iphone? nope.

Being able to fire up Skype wherever I am in the world, and call back home with unlimited minutes is worth more than ANY app store. If WM mobiles were marketed as suggested, we would not be under the radar and everything would be locked. (And I know you can jailbreak etc, but with WM its not necessary at all)

jailbreaking and enabling tethering(especially with blackra1n) is pretty much the same as HSPL unlocking for custom roms, and I know youve done that...

And you still have to hack the registry to do it in WM

edit: not an apple fanboy at all, i would never get an iphone or use att for any reason whatsoever, just pointing out facts

Im still using the stock Verizon ROM. My point was only that it requires far less work to enable these features on WM because of how open it is.

No need to install the HSPL for either tethering or using data to make calls.

If a new WM device is released tomorrow, its likely that youll be able to install tethering cabs and Skype. The Iphone on the other hand has to be jailbroken and the Android devices rooted to get them to do anything outside of what providers what you to do..

Not a WM fanboy at all.. I actually got my girl the Droid for christmas because its just easier to figure out for non tech savy people..

BenC 12-16-2009 11:42 PM

Re: Why Arent There Loads Of Free Apps Like Android & iPhone App Stores?
 
A dedicated Starbucks finder. Being a Starbucks fan, when I am in an area I infrequent, there is Google Maps and Sprint Navaslicer - they both do the job and can handle more than one function. Dedicated.


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