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1999TL 08-18-2010 05:14 AM

Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Would it be crazy to want to dual boot into Windows from an Android Based phone? I've been playing with Android on the HD2 and its pretty stable now. What if I move to the Epic 4g and I want to run Windows also :)

redd214 08-18-2010 05:34 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
not saying its impossible, however i highly doubt anyone is/will ever work on porting win mo to anything. first and foremost its illegal without proper licensing and with the rate at which android is developing and with wp7 a couple months away i wouldnt hold my breath for it to happen man

do what i do, get your epic and just keep your tp2 around for when you want winmo

gTen 08-19-2010 02:14 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Yes, getting Windows Mobile on an Android device would be illegal...so I doubt anyone would go that route...the best you can hope for as far as other operating systems is maybe ubuntu and/or meego...

1999TL 08-19-2010 10:21 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Makes me wish Sprint had an HD2 even more now.

MrObvious 08-24-2010 02:05 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Why would you even want to?

matchstickredgti 08-25-2010 03:44 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Maybe it's obvious and I missed the answer, but how come it is illegal to port Windows on an Android device? How come you can put Android on a Windows device?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1921795)
Why would you even want to?

Winmo is a great platform, granted you have the hardware to support it. The 1ghz processor in the Evo + Windows 6.5 would be awesome. Just my opnion though.

testacon 08-25-2010 05:02 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mangomango (Post 1923612)
Maybe it's obvious and I missed the answer, but how come it is illegal to port Windows on an Android device? How come you can put Android on a Windows device?



Winmo is a great platform, granted you have the hardware to support it. The 1ghz processor in the Evo + Windows 6.5 would be awesome. Just my opnion though.

When you buy a Windows Mobile phone you get an OEM license of Windows Mobile, not a retail one, this license is NOT transferable to other devices and dies when the unit dies. To my knowledge there is no way to buy a copy of Windows Mobile to do with as you please.

Android and the other portable OS's are open and free, that's why you are able to do with them as you please (for the most part)...

MrObvious 08-25-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
I just don't see why because Android does everything WM does plus more IMO.

matchstickredgti 08-25-2010 05:57 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by testacon (Post 1923729)
When you buy a Windows Mobile phone you get an OEM license of Windows Mobile, not a retail one, this license is NOT transferable to other devices and dies when the unit dies. To my knowledge there is no way to buy a copy of Windows Mobile to do with as you please.

Android and the other portable OS's are open and free, that's why you are able to do with them as you please (for the most part)...

ah, i see. makes sense

1999TL 08-25-2010 07:11 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1923762)
I just don't see why because Android does everything WM does plus more IMO.

True. But maybe you have some programs on winmo that Android doesn't have that your company uses. Or, if you bought a certain program, you don't feel like re-buying it.

matchstickredgti 08-25-2010 07:19 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 1923881)
True. But maybe you have some programs on winmo that Android doesn't have that your company uses. Or, if you bought a certain program, you don't feel like re-buying it.

x2

not only that, there are people that have been using windows mobile since way back in the day who i'm sure would prefer wm over android

MrObvious 08-26-2010 03:30 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Then buy a WM phone. They are porting Android to phones like the HD2 and most of the HTC phones have it. That's the way to go.

1999TL 08-26-2010 09:37 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1924279)
Then buy a WM phone. They are porting Android to phones like the HD2 and most of the HTC phones have it. That's the way to go.

I've been holding my breath for a Touch Pro 2 port. I give up. I wish Sprint could use an HD2. Tmobile just sucks where I live – That's not even an option.

MrObvious 08-26-2010 12:53 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
The XDAndroid project will work for the TP2. It's not perfect but it's Android.

demonlordoftheround 08-26-2010 12:58 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1924594)
The XDAndroid project will work for the TP2. It's not perfect but it's Android.

Sound is now working! It isn't perfect, but it is there.

1999TL 08-26-2010 01:03 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Shit sound is working? when was this. hmm. time to check it out..on my TP2 with a cracked screen.

matchstickredgti 08-26-2010 09:51 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 1924610)
Shit sound is working? when was this. hmm. time to check it out..on my TP2 with a cracked screen.

This morning lol. Works pretty great

1999TL 08-26-2010 09:58 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Well you got me to try it earlier. No camera- Can deal with that. But No MMS. Ppl were sending me MMS and I was missing them all. Can't send or receive MMS.

eric12341 08-27-2010 01:25 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1923762)
I just don't see why because Android does everything WM does plus more IMO.

like what? besides certain apps not being available because of naco developers

1999TL 08-27-2010 07:57 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 1925541)
like what? besides certain apps not being available because of naco developers

After using Android yesterday, I'm starting to agree. There are so many apps on Android that winmo doesn't have. Hell, that every other phone has but winmo doesn't have it's starting to seem.

https://www.wellsfargo.com/mobile/

That's just one example.

brownhornet 08-27-2010 10:08 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 1925662)
After using Android yesterday, I'm starting to agree. There are so many apps on Android that winmo doesn't have. Hell, that every other phone has but winmo doesn't have it's starting to seem.

https://www.wellsfargo.com/mobile/

That's just one example.

Most developers abandoned winmo long ago...one of the biggest reasons I switched. The majority of the apps are years old.

eric12341 08-27-2010 05:21 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
who cares about that app? assistant free on WM can do the same things that wells fargo app can do. I said to list things besides apps.

redd214 08-27-2010 05:29 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
-chrome to phone
-entering calendar appts via bluetooth while driving without touching the phone
-universal search
-automatic app updating
-robust voice command/search features

just to name a few

brownhornet 08-29-2010 11:49 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 1926217)
who cares about that app? assistant free on WM can do the same things that wells fargo app can do. I said to list things besides apps.

NO SLEEP OF DEATH!!!
More speed
Better GPS
Better speaker

And damn the no naming apps.. how can you leave that out when apps are pretty much what DRIVE smartphones? It's like having a phone with a 4.4" screen, a 5 ghz processor, a super super amoled screen that can read your mind and function without touching a button... but the only thing you can do with it is make calls, email and text. Seems rather pointless to me. Whats an iphone without apps? Same with droid?... well thats what winmo is.

BenC 08-29-2010 12:25 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Wow. The TP2 is still a better business oriented device than the Evo and frankly, I like 6.x better than Android. The only thing the Evo has going for itself is: speed. Nothing more. Each time I have upgraded, I did not rely upon the previous device. This time I am still using the TP2 for data entry on every level, Excel and HanDBase. I have DTG installed on the Evo and yet I prefer Excel. It is nice being able to move that screen around, but it is nicer to be able to handle formulas and copy cells in a much more fluid manner. The Evo is fast though. The TP2 has 2 speakers, sounds better; the Evo has 1 speaker and sounds like, well, it sounds bad. It is fast though. The TP2 and 6x meet my needs far better than the Evo/Android.

1999TL 08-30-2010 12:16 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Well the Epic has a keyboard too.

brownhornet 08-30-2010 04:38 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenC (Post 1927940)
Wow. The TP2 is still a better business oriented device than the Evo and frankly, I like 6.x better than Android. The only thing the Evo has going for itself is: speed. Nothing more. Each time I have upgraded, I did not rely upon the previous device. This time I am still using the TP2 for data entry on every level, Excel and HanDBase. I have DTG installed on the Evo and yet I prefer Excel. It is nice being able to move that screen around, but it is nicer to be able to handle formulas and copy cells in a much more fluid manner. The Evo is fast though. The TP2 has 2 speakers, sounds better; the Evo has 1 speaker and sounds like, well, it sounds bad. It is fast though. The TP2 and 6x meet my needs far better than the Evo/Android.

Come on now dude.. you're talking to someone that had a tp2. The speaker sounds better? lol....:evil4::evil4::evil4: I guess thats why winmo is failing because the majority of people that buy phones dont use them for business. Too bad ms waited too late to wake up and see that.

redd214 08-30-2010 08:40 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
so tired of folks sayin android isnt good for business. I run a business and it works perfectly in 99% of the business related situations that i need. You guys have examples of the Android enterprise shortfall? im not saying that there arent any just want to know what you guys mean.

orangekid 08-30-2010 08:52 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
I've had a Nexus One, an HD2, and an iPhone. I still like Windows mobile for some things:

Zuma

Experiment 13

Office Mobile (I know there are Android alternatives, but IMO nothing as good)

smooth as hell on a 1ghz snapdragon.

More UI customizations and lockscreens, although Android is coming along very well in that department.

Better Emulators (ATM)

a couple more things maybe.

Android, on the other hand offers

more/better apps,

less resource hog,

LWPs (I love me some LWPs)

update your ROM without a hard reset

continued developers and app support

more than 1 device running on a snapdragon/hummingbird

many many more features.

For me the HD2 is the perfect device. I have an awesome/stable/sweet 6.5 ROM and I can load up an awesome/stable/sweet Android 2.2 ROM with new builds coming out daily. I can benchmark from 1500-1900 depending on my ROM, build, and settings and OC to 1190 mhz. There is much development on Android for the HD2, we have awesome ROMs where literally EVERYTHING works (my current sense UI 2.2 ROM has no bugs at all), we have a full CM6 port, just needs some bugs tweaked.

Any time I want to play Zuma or get on office mobile or get a new WinMo ROM flashed I can do that too. I think I'll stick with my HD2 WinMo/Android rig till something AWESOME comes out.

brownhornet 08-31-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
So in essence.. things the average user could care less about. Not to mention pretty much all stock winmo roms suck and the majority if not all of them have some type of bug.. be it big or small. That was the main thing I got tired of.. flashing roms was cool but then you almost always had to give up some type of functionality in the process.

orangekid 08-31-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1929992)
So in essence.. things the average user could care less about. Not to mention pretty much all stock winmo roms suck and the majority if not all of them have some type of bug.. be it big or small. That was the main thing I got tired of.. flashing roms was cool but then you almost always had to give up some type of functionality in the process.

I'm on the latest Energy ROM and don't have 1 bug I can mention. Everything works better that stock, the phone never freezes, everything works fine.

The other awesome thing is that since I am running Android off my SD, I can choose how big to make my device storage, so right now I am running with 2gb storage.

to each his own, but I'm loving my HD2.

1999TL 08-31-2010 01:39 PM

doesnt nrg rom have horrible batt life?

brownhornet 08-31-2010 01:44 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1930007)
I'm on the latest Energy ROM and don't have 1 bug I can mention. Everything works better that stock, the phone never freezes, everything works fine.

The other awesome thing is that since I am running Android off my SD, I can choose how big to make my device storage, so right now I am running with 2gb storage.

to each his own, but I'm loving my HD2.


A lot must've changed then.. because I used to run energy roms and even though they had a lot of eye candy they almost always had bugs. The HD2 is ok though.. had one for about 2 weeks and sold it. I honestly just didnt want anything else to do with winmo.

orangekid 08-31-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1930165)
A lot must've changed then.. because I used to run energy roms and even though they had a lot of eye candy they almost always had bugs. The HD2 is ok though.. had one for about 2 weeks and sold it. I honestly just didnt want anything else to do with winmo.

it's also the hardware the HD2 packs, winmo was always kinda buggy on my Diamond, but on the HD2 everything works fine.

I gotta say I like the Android development going on for the HD2 for than any other device right now too.

MrObvious 08-31-2010 01:58 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
The only problem with the HD2 is it's on a network that don't have towers here. If it came to Verizon I would probably have got that.

orangekid 08-31-2010 03:25 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1930202)
The only problem with the HD2 is it's on a network that don't have towers here. If it came to Verizon I would probably have got that.

yeah I hear that, the only network I ever hear anything about like dropped calls or low signal is ATT, so I can hop between tmobile, vzw, and Sprint depending on the phone.

MrObvious 09-01-2010 01:28 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
If T-Mobile had towers it wouldn't be as bad.

1999TL 09-01-2010 05:02 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1931616)
If T-Mobile had towers it wouldn't be as bad.

That's a big if. Tmobile is HORRIBLE where I'm currently at. Nobody in the Student Union on the campus of Texas Tech can get service with tmobile. I mean, one of the main buildings where people come to congregate and eat on Campus gets no service. You think they would have fixed this problem.

redd214 09-01-2010 05:07 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
T-mobile is great where i am (DC Metro Area) they even have their 3.5G HSPA+ in the town where my office is. I'm really considering picking up a G2 when it drops.

brownhornet 09-02-2010 12:38 PM

Re: Dual Boot Windows on Android Based Phone
 
Tmobile is by far the worst service i've ever had.. another reason why i got rid of the hd2.


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