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Will7272 08-05-2010 09:14 AM
This is pissing me off...
 
I rarely post but this is ridiculous.

In today's age of 1Ghz processors on cell phones and the multitude of other things that phones are capable of, it just baffles me that Google, Microsoft, and other OS makers can't see the frustration that power users have with random applications starting up.....and applications not closing when you ask them to. Excuse my ignorance but when I manually kill an app on my pc, it won't restart unless it's a virus of some sort. I just don't get why it's so ****ing hard just accomplish this simple task. Stop trying to impress me with screen sizes, processor speed, ram, and all the other "phone candy" that I can't use because my battery is dying faster than it should. I can't be the only one frustrated by this. It's 2010 and companies that make OS's can't fix this simple problem. It's just not logical. I read in another thread that Froyo will use applications when it needs to and shut them down when they done. I call bull****. I see no reason for Amazon mp3, Sprint Navigation, and Shop Savvy to be running on my phone while I'm sitting at my desk at work.

I heard that Startup Auditor did a fairly good job and helping control applications' rogue behavior. What is working for you guys?

I love my Evo but damn Google....fix this obvious problem in Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, Sugar Lips, or whatever else you brand your next OS. I left my TP2 for Evo thinking Google would do it the "right" way. I'm impressed by what I've seen but closing an app and keeping it closed, disable random apps from starting on their own like viruses, and memory management should be as simple as "cut and paste". Maybe hire some people from XDA. We as users know what we works and what doesn't. Find out what's ***ed up and fix it. It's that simple.

dodge_longhorn 08-05-2010 09:18 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will7272 (Post 1899526)
I rarely post but this is ridiculous.

In today's age of 1Ghz processors on cell phones and the multitude of other things that phones are capable of, it just baffles me that Google, Microsoft, and other OS makers can't see the frustration that power users have with random applications starting up.....and applications not closing when you ask them to. Excuse my ignorance but when I manually kill an app on my pc, it won't restart unless it's a virus of some sort. I just don't get why it's so ****ing hard just accomplish this simple task. Stop trying to impress me with screen sizes, processor speed, ram, and all the other "phone candy" that I can't use because my battery is dying faster than it should. I can't be the only one frustrated by this. It's 2010 and companies that make OS's can't fix this simple problem. It's just not logical. I read in another thread that Froyo will use applications when it needs to and shut them down when they done. I call bull****. I see no reason for Amazon mp3, Sprint Navigation, and Shop Savvy to be running on my phone while I'm sitting at my desk at work.

I heard that Startup Auditor did a fairly good job and helping control applications' rogue behavior. What is working for you guys?

I love my Evo but damn Google....fix this obvious problem in Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, Sugar Lips, or whatever else you brand your next OS. I left my TP2 for Evo thinking Google would do it the "right" way. I'm impressed by what I've seen but closing an app and keeping it closed, disable random apps from starting on their own like viruses, and memory management should be as simple as "cut and paste". Maybe hire some people from XDA. We as users know what we works and what doesn't. Find out what's ***ed up and fix it. It's that simple.
+1 man i agree

Knuxr 08-05-2010 09:20 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will7272 (Post 1899526)
I rarely post but this is ridiculous.

In today's age of 1Ghz processors on cell phones and the multitude of other things that phones are capable of, it just baffles me that Google, Microsoft, and other OS makers can't see the frustration that power users have with random applications starting up.....and applications not closing when you ask them to. Excuse my ignorance but when I manually kill an app on my pc, it won't restart unless it's a virus of some sort. I just don't get why it's so ****ing hard just accomplish this simple task. Stop trying to impress me with screen sizes, processor speed, ram, and all the other "phone candy" that I can't use because my battery is dying faster than it should. I can't be the only one frustrated by this. It's 2010 and companies that make OS's can't fix this simple problem. It's just not logical. I read in another thread that Froyo will use applications when it needs to and shut them down when they done. I call bull****. I see no reason for Amazon mp3, Sprint Navigation, and Shop Savvy to be running on my phone while I'm sitting at my desk at work.

I heard that Startup Auditor did a fairly good job and helping control applications' rogue behavior. What is working for you guys?

I love my Evo but damn Google....fix this obvious problem in Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, Sugar Lips, or whatever else you brand your next OS. I left my TP2 for Evo thinking Google would do it the "right" way. I'm impressed by what I've seen but closing an app and keeping it closed, disable random apps from starting on their own like viruses, and memory management should be as simple as "cut and paste". Maybe hire some people from XDA. We as users know what we works and what doesn't. Find out what's ***ed up and fix it. It's that simple.

Honestly you are comparing apples to oranges here, memory management it Android is COMPLETELY different from Windows Mobile. There is no reason at all to have a task killer on Android, the programs start back up because either the OS needs it or you are using it, simple as that. I have Froyo and I am getting a solid day out of my battery, without issues, and I am a pretty heavy user.

You ever stop to think that you are the problem and not the OS? Everyone else seems to be getting along fine.

EDIT
Also if you don't like those extra apps that Sprint puts on there, root your phone and put a custom OS on it.

ddark4eva 08-05-2010 09:24 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will7272 (Post 1899526)
I love my Evo but damn Google....fix this obvious problem in Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, Sugar Lips, or whatever else you brand your next OS.

Lmao, but i hear u man, I use Advanced task killer an set Auto-kill to aggressive. if u also utilize the Ignore feature for apps u dont want closed it works pretty well

brownhornet 08-05-2010 09:26 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Do you even know how Android works? Obviously not...

tokuzumi 08-05-2010 09:26 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuxr (Post 1899534)
Honestly you are comparing apples to oranges here, memory management it Android is COMPLETELY different from Windows Mobile. There is no reason at all to have a task killer on Android, the programs start back up because either the OS needs it or you are using it, simple as that. I have Froyo and I am getting a solid day out of my battery, without issues, and I am a pretty heavy user.

You ever stop to think that you are the problem and not the OS? Everyone else seems to be getting along fine.

EDIT
Also if you don't like those extra apps that Sprint puts on there, root your phone and put a custom OS on it.
While I'm not too concerned about these apps that start up randomly, they shouldn't start up to begin with. If I receive a phone call, why would the text messaging app start? Why would Sprint navigation start? Uninstalling an app isn't the answer.

cjjr72984 08-05-2010 09:27 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will7272 (Post 1899526)

I love my Evo but damn Google....fix this obvious problem in Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, Sugar Lips, .
Lol @ Gingerbread, Hostess Cream, and Sugar Lips

:mrgreen:

Knuxr 08-05-2010 09:29 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tokuzumi (Post 1899542)
While I'm not too concerned about these apps that start up randomly, they shouldn't start up to begin with. If I receive a phone call, why would the text messaging app start? Why would Sprint navigation start? Uninstalling an app isn't the answer.
This is you having too much time and looking into things that shouldn't concern you.

Do me a favor go onto your windows machine and try killing svchosts or system or even services. It won't let you, weather you agree or not Android has all of these process open at once and that is how it is run. Very similar to Linux.

Read this:

http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-b...-with-android/

gaudet41 08-05-2010 09:32 AM
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Seriously people need to do their research on Android before they rant. There is a reason a task killer doesn't come preinstalled, it is unnecessary. The apps you see in there ate not really running and they take up no usable memory or battery life. I know it is a difficult concept coming from shitty Windows mobile but Android is way different. Go research.

OMJ 08-05-2010 09:36 AM
Re: This is pissing me off...
 
thread moved....no flaming ppl


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