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Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by nydriek (Post 851855)

hmm when i download this i cant install, saying installation was unsuccessful? am i missing something or is the file corrupted?

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Originally Posted by agrenwa (Post 860164)

I have the same problem, I'm using juicy7 090418 rom, did you find a solution?

I have the same problem. I am using GC's latest kitchen. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by RobsOnLine (Post 865061)

I have the same problem. I am using GC's latest kitchen. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Hey I just wanted to chime in and say I had the same problem you're describing.. check out nueDynamicClock instead it does the same thing plus some very good options. (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65604) Also, it installs fine for me, so yeah, that's a plus too. :P

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by nydriek (Post 865467)

Thanks! And, I also clicked the "Thanks" Button! The nueDynamicClock install worked just fine. Not sure why, but I am having problems with installing a couple of no2chem's cabs. I get the same message with each one I have tried. :???:

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by RobsOnLine (Post 865581)

Are you downloading with opera? I'm told it kinda broke downloading, I should test myself. Also if your version says 1.0 be sure to download v1.1 since it fixes a problem with touch pro/diamond

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...11-update.aspx

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 868878)

Yes, I was using opera. I figured out that if I download the installs with my PC, and then email them to myself, the programs would install fine. Nothing I downloaded using opera worked. I also noticed that no matter what program I downloaded, they are all the same size. That is why I tried using the PC.

Great programs and ROMs. Keep up the great work!!! I gladly donated!!! :thumbleft:

Re: [4-22] nueClockControl 1.1 - underclock your touch pro/diamond/titan/etc.

i just intalled 1.0. where can i find it? program? settings?

Re: [4-22] nueClockControl 1.1 - underclock your touch pro/diamond/titan/etc.

I installed this on JonROM, and he's using WM6.5 start menu

I cant see to find the shortcut link to configure the app

Re: [4-22] nueClockControl 1.1 - underclock your touch pro/diamond/titan/etc.

I ran with this for a couple days. I did not notice a significant increase in battery life (although the power meter showed lower power draw). I was using the settings in the picture at the beginning of the thread, and I noticed a significant decrease in performance. Particularly when trying to answer a ringing call, when the phone was asleep. I use S2U2, which was probably adding to the issue. But when the phone rang, it would take about 2 rings for the phone to be fully awake to the point where I could answer the call. Since smart phones usually don't wake up until 1-1.5 rings in anyway, that was unacceptable for me. Tweaking the settings to improve that brought the power draw back up in the neighborhood of where it was originally. So I reluctantly uninstalled it. I think this is a sweet app, but unfortunately I don't know if we can realistically squeeze much more battery life out of this phone without crippling it.

Dave

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by chronster (Post 852769)

OK, please correct me if I'm wrong, but underlocking the cpu can only draw less energy to a point. I mean, the difference between 19mhz and 200mhz would be the same because the device is still sending the same voltage to the cpu right? Unless the device automatically determines what the cpu needs to function correct (which I highly doubt) you'll need to tweak the voltage somehow also.

Think of it this way: I've got a cpu in a computer running at 4ghz at 1.5v. If I underclock the cpu to 2ghz, the vcore setting is still 1.5v so the same amount of energy is still being sent, just not being used, right?

As far as heat goes, it's the same. If you're pushing the limit at which a certain amount of voltage achieves a certain clock cycle, then there's going to be some resistance which causes slightly more heat than if you're simply over volting your cpu, but it doesn't matter if you're running 10mhz or 200mhz, the voltage is what's causing heat. Too much voltage causes heat, and too much resistance causes heat. Finding that sweet spot is the key.

you have to consider amperage to fully understand how electricity works. heres a brief description. the best way to describe power draw in an electrical device is with wattage (this is why battery backups are rated in watts). wattage = voltage x amperage. you are correct in assuming that underclocking would not change the voltage draw of the processor, however, what it would do is change the amperage draw, thereby ultimately lowering the total wattage draw of the device, which in turn means more battery life. as for how much of a difference it will make, that can only be determined by extensive testing, however, the theory fits.

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by chronster (Post 852769)

Almost, Think of it this way: You're keeping the voltage the same but your throttling the amount of work the processor is allowed to do. In theory the more work a processor is doing the more current its typically going to require. Unfortunately throttling the frequency 50% doesn't cut the current down by 50% which is why lowering the voltage is more effective. You should see small signs of battery improvement only if the processor isn't doing excessive work. For example, If it takes the phone 1 minute to load a program at 19mhz vs 4 seconds normal clock, which one do you think is going to eat less battery? Implementing an auto-throttle would be the most effective (similar to powernow or speedstep technology)