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entwined82

04-16-2009 01:17 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

I love this app. Im at 85% battery..been using it steadily since roughly 10:30 am or so. Nothing will top my Mogul with extended battery going 5 days on 1 charge but the sacrifice for power over battery with the TP seems a bit more balanced now. I don't feel like I need the Mugen 3000 right away :) Thanks no2chem, you're the man!

Running at 256, stock rom, sprint version.

toolz have you tried a new battery? or replacing your phone?

no2chem

04-16-2009 01:39 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by chronster (Post 852769)

OK, please correct me if I'm wrong, but underlocking the cpu can only draw less energy to a point. I mean, the difference between 19mhz and 200mhz would be the same because the device is still sending the same voltage to the cpu right? Unless the device automatically determines what the cpu needs to function correct (which I highly doubt) you'll need to tweak the voltage somehow also.

Think of it this way: I've got a cpu in a computer running at 4ghz at 1.5v. If I underclock the cpu to 2ghz, the vcore setting is still 1.5v so the same amount of energy is still being sent, just not being used, right?

As far as heat goes, it's the same. If you're pushing the limit at which a certain amount of voltage achieves a certain clock cycle, then there's going to be some resistance which causes slightly more heat than if you're simply over volting your cpu, but it doesn't matter if you're running 10mhz or 200mhz, the voltage is what's causing heat. Too much voltage causes heat, and too much resistance causes heat. Finding that sweet spot is the key.

well, i guess i didn't disclose this, but the tool changes the voltage registers as well as the frequency registers. I just have no idea what the voltage registers are being changed to, other than, well, a lower setting.

parkjam

04-16-2009 01:42 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

I don't think underclocking the processor is going to help with heat generated from streaming data on your phone. The majority of that heat is coming from the radio itself. Try a different radio rom.

vernonlbrown

04-16-2009 01:48 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

No2chem, great app. I have noticed a hugh difference in my phone. I usually have to charge up my phone every night and during the course of the day because I use everything single app on my phone ( well almost every app) I downloaded it last night and set it to 256 and left it off the charger and i just put it on the charger at 1:50pm because it said i had 40% battery left.

no2chem

04-16-2009 01:55 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...ckControl.aspx

it might give you some insight into why some of you aren't seeing battery savings =).

blackmagic352

04-16-2009 01:57 PM

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it seems to have been a change so far. i will know more tonight when i get to work. i listen to music for approx. 6 hours straight at work. im going to try and make it without charging, hopefully i can atleast make it 4 hours

entwined82

04-16-2009 02:03 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

Interesting explanation. No2chem, any idea which component would be responsible for text messaging? ARM9 or Radio Transceiver?

shaggylive

04-16-2009 02:06 PM

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no2 4 prez :salute::bigsmurf:

no2chem

04-16-2009 02:23 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by entwined82 (Post 853156)

Interesting explanation. No2chem, any idea which component would be responsible for text messaging? ARM9 or Radio Transceiver?

both. the arm9 to process the CDMA stuff, and the radio transceiver to talk to the tower.

t0mmyr

04-16-2009 03:14 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

hmm, i wonder if i can underclock it enough to let it run wifi/bluetooth/gps/cell/navizon all day without overheating and no power interuption, as always good job n2c

parkjam

04-16-2009 03:30 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

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Originally Posted by t0mmyr (Post 853313)

hmm, i wonder if i can underclock it enough to let it run wifi/bluetooth/gps/cell/navizon all day without overheating and no power interuption, as always good job n2c

You underclock it enough to run all that stuff, it is going to be running SO SLOW, you might as well just turn the phone off! You can save lots of battery that way too!

no2chem

04-16-2009 04:09 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

Just updating the thread to let people know it works for gsm devices now too

update: nueClockControl works on any device with DVFM support in the kernel, due to intelligent search procedures =p. So far, the devices I know that have support are:
CDMA Touch Pro (Herman)
CDMA Diamond (Victor)
GSM Touch Pro (Raphael)
GSM Diamond (Diamond)
GSM Touch HD (Blackstone)

Probably will work fine with the Touch Pro 2 / Diamond 2 /// i.e. rhodium, but obviously I haven't been able to test that yet =).

no2chem

04-16-2009 04:19 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

some other notes - tethering over wifi works fine at 19.20MHz, getting usable speeds on my laptop. Phone still gets a little warm, but it seems to not burn me like it usually does. Then again, maybe the temperature is placebo effect, I didn't measure it exactly.

kdj67f

04-16-2009 08:36 PM

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heat be damned, I carry a lunch box full of ice packs! :D Lets overclock this baby!

Good work No2chem, as always. I dont really feel the need to underclock as I actually do use my phone as amodem all day sitting on all the extra ice packs in my lunch box. But I am interested to try this out for fun.

hibby50

04-17-2009 11:39 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

awesome n2c! i noticed a huge difference at 128, so i am up at ~250 now.... i am planning to go really heavy for tomorrow so we'll see

EDIT: just realized it doesnt stick after a reset

slypher

04-18-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hibby50 (Post 856837)

awesome n2c! i noticed a huge difference at 128, so i am up at ~250 now.... i am planning to go really heavy for tomorrow so we'll see

EDIT: just realized it doesnt stick after a reset

What's up with that??!! I found out that it doesnt stick after a soft reset too..lol. I figured that a soft reset would make it stick lol. Oh well.

-s

reigndropz

04-18-2009 10:59 AM

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noticed the soft reset thing also. However, I've been running at the 256 and there is DEFINITELY an increase in battery life. I am almost obsessed with the battery life and I constantly monitor it. There is a definite improvement, awesome app.

freeza

04-18-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 851700)

perhaps!

You absolutely have to. It's mandatory. lol

savior02

04-18-2009 02:37 PM

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will wait for a over clocking solutiuon!!

los2003

04-18-2009 02:54 PM

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so will this just give more battery life..

muyoso

04-18-2009 09:22 PM

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No2Chem, Thanks so much for this. Do you think there is any feasible way to automate this, so that the clock of the arm11 is under clocked to a certain setting when the phone is set to suspend, and then to clock it back to normal when brought out of suspend? That would save battery life without any knock to performance whatsoever, because the phone would only be under clocked while the user is not using it. Is this possible do you think?

no2chem

04-19-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by muyoso (Post 858523)

yes, i've been working on that...

dschoenike

04-19-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 859039)

yes, i've been working on that...

I'm so looking forward to that :) Thanks no2chem for everything you do. Truely amazing.
dschoenike

agrenwa

04-19-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nydriek (Post 851855)

hmm when i download this i cant install, saying installation was unsuccessful? am i missing something or is the file corrupted?

I have the same problem, I'm using juicy7 090418 rom, did you find a solution?

nydriek

04-19-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by agrenwa (Post 860164)

I have the same problem, I'm using juicy7 090418 rom, did you find a solution?

no actually i didn't even look at it again after the first couple of failed attempts. sorry..

muyoso

04-19-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 859039)

yes, i've been working on that...

Thank you so much. You are seriously invaluable to this community.

hibby50

04-19-2009 07:52 PM

Re: [4-15] nueClockControl - underclock your touch pro/diamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by muyoso (Post 860578)

Thank you so much. You are seriously invaluable to this community.

you mean valuable....

muyoso

04-19-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hibby50 (Post 860599)

you mean valuable....

No, invaluable, as in it is impossible to calculate the value of.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ition&ct=title

reigndropz

04-19-2009 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hibby50 (Post 860599)

you mean valuable....

Quote:

Originally Posted by muyoso (Post 860727)

No, invaluable, as in it is impossible to calculate the value of.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ition&ct=title

lol awesome. I actually had to check that myself....

t0mmyr

04-20-2009 04:46 AM

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hey no2chem,

would it be possible for you to add a few settings to make it run faster? i think it would be sweet to see your great app overclock my phone. of course i'd probably only overclock it when its plugged into the power and not way beyond its limits, we could all probably get about an extra 100MHz or maybe 200 if we're lucky, ill set my phone on some dry ice to keep it cool while testing :)

RobsOnLine

04-21-2009 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nydriek (Post 851855)

hmm when i download this i cant install, saying installation was unsuccessful? am i missing something or is the file corrupted?

Quote:

Originally Posted by agrenwa (Post 860164)

I have the same problem, I'm using juicy7 090418 rom, did you find a solution?

I have the same problem. I am using GC's latest kitchen. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

nydriek

04-21-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RobsOnLine (Post 865061)

I have the same problem. I am using GC's latest kitchen. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Hey I just wanted to chime in and say I had the same problem you're describing.. check out nueDynamicClock instead it does the same thing plus some very good options. (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65604) Also, it installs fine for me, so yeah, that's a plus too. :P

RobsOnLine

04-21-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nydriek (Post 865467)

Thanks! And, I also clicked the "Thanks" Button! The nueDynamicClock install worked just fine. Not sure why, but I am having problems with installing a couple of no2chem's cabs. I get the same message with each one I have tried. :???:

no2chem

04-22-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RobsOnLine (Post 865581)

Are you downloading with opera? I'm told it kinda broke downloading, I should test myself. Also if your version says 1.0 be sure to download v1.1 since it fixes a problem with touch pro/diamond

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...11-update.aspx

RobsOnLine

04-22-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 868878)

Yes, I was using opera. I figured out that if I download the installs with my PC, and then email them to myself, the programs would install fine. Nothing I downloaded using opera worked. I also noticed that no matter what program I downloaded, they are all the same size. That is why I tried using the PC.

Great programs and ROMs. Keep up the great work!!! I gladly donated!!! :thumbleft:

ebuechler3

04-27-2009 10:34 AM

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i just intalled 1.0. where can i find it? program? settings?

bugzy

04-28-2009 03:17 PM

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I installed this on JonROM, and he's using WM6.5 start menu

I cant see to find the shortcut link to configure the app

dodgeboy

04-29-2009 12:27 AM

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I ran with this for a couple days. I did not notice a significant increase in battery life (although the power meter showed lower power draw). I was using the settings in the picture at the beginning of the thread, and I noticed a significant decrease in performance. Particularly when trying to answer a ringing call, when the phone was asleep. I use S2U2, which was probably adding to the issue. But when the phone rang, it would take about 2 rings for the phone to be fully awake to the point where I could answer the call. Since smart phones usually don't wake up until 1-1.5 rings in anyway, that was unacceptable for me. Tweaking the settings to improve that brought the power draw back up in the neighborhood of where it was originally. So I reluctantly uninstalled it. I think this is a sweet app, but unfortunately I don't know if we can realistically squeeze much more battery life out of this phone without crippling it.

Dave

pyro254750

05-28-2009 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chronster (Post 852769)

you have to consider amperage to fully understand how electricity works. heres a brief description. the best way to describe power draw in an electrical device is with wattage (this is why battery backups are rated in watts). wattage = voltage x amperage. you are correct in assuming that underclocking would not change the voltage draw of the processor, however, what it would do is change the amperage draw, thereby ultimately lowering the total wattage draw of the device, which in turn means more battery life. as for how much of a difference it will make, that can only be determined by extensive testing, however, the theory fits.

drebbe

06-01-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chronster (Post 852769)

Almost, Think of it this way: You're keeping the voltage the same but your throttling the amount of work the processor is allowed to do. In theory the more work a processor is doing the more current its typically going to require. Unfortunately throttling the frequency 50% doesn't cut the current down by 50% which is why lowering the voltage is more effective. You should see small signs of battery improvement only if the processor isn't doing excessive work. For example, If it takes the phone 1 minute to load a program at 19mhz vs 4 seconds normal clock, which one do you think is going to eat less battery? Implementing an auto-throttle would be the most effective (similar to powernow or speedstep technology)

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