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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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I hope you took my previous post appropriately. I wasn't trying to bash you. I work in IT Consulting and if I don't provide someone with a support number for a client to call for a product I install, guess who they call.....yup!...ME!!! I was just suggesting, defer as much fodder as you can by directing people to where the questions should be asked. =)

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I agree wholeheartedly and that should also include the apps that are included, such as S2U2 (and others). A link would not only provide info, but also have the latest revisions for that app. That's why I created a list a while back that included most items that Scott uses (Post #553).

When he posts a ROM or Kitchen, on page 1, right next to where the different apps are identified and listed, there should be a link to the original discussion about that particular item. That way you could make an intelligent decision on whether you wanted to use that particular item or not, and it would also have the latest release, so you would always be up to date.

But you're in IT, so you know that the documentation for an item ALWAYS lags way behind the development and release. Programmers are notoriously bad for documenting their work. They would rather do "real work" rather than document what they did yesterday.

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Old 04-02-2009, 03:39 PM
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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I agree wholeheartedly and that should also include the apps that are included, such as S2U2 (and others). A link would not only provide info, but also have the latest revisions for that app. That's why I created a list a while back that included most items that Scott uses (Post #553).

When he posts a ROM or Kitchen, on page 1, right next to where the different apps are identified and listed, there should be a link to the original discussion about that particular item. That way you could make an intelligent decision on whether you wanted to use that particular item or not, and it would also have the latest release, so you would always be up to date.

But you're in IT, so you know that the documentation for an item ALWAYS lags way behind the development and release. Programmers are notoriously bad for documenting their work. They would rather do "real work" rather than document what they did yesterday.

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LOL you aren't kidding. We've got a programmer in our automation division that is 6 months...SIX...S-I-X MONTHS behind on his documentation. I can't believe he still has a job. *scratches head*
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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i agree with oldman 100%. the rhodium manila isnt quite perfect but even in its current state, with allthe fixes applied and doing RESEARCH about it, i dont think i could ever go back to the regular manila. now i know not everyone reads and does the research before hand but like stated this stuff is beta, so by installing it, ur basically agreeing to be a beta tester so dont expect perfection. no offense to scott at all, but if you want a more advanced version of the rhodium manila, use either bored's or erice's kitchen. the version in scotts rom is a very early beta hence why so many problems are being reported. try those two kitchens, read the post that oldman and i referenced, and have fun!!
To add to what you and Oldman have stated, the manilla does NOT have to be burned into the kitchen. You can goto the proper post, download, and install of the TP2 stuff after you flash. If it screws up, hard reset, you're back to square one.

Eventually having it burned in would be nice, but with the option to try without including it in the kitchen, I have no idea why anybody would want it there in the first place.
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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To add to what you and Oldman have stated, the manilla does NOT have to be burned into the kitchen. You can goto the proper post, download, and install of the TP2 stuff after you flash. If it screws up, hard reset, you're back to square one.

Eventually having it burned in would be nice, but with the option to try without including it in the kitchen, I have no idea why anybody would want it there in the first place.
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Scott has been put under a lot of pressure by his following, myself included to throw stuff together in a hurry. All things considered, if I were in Scott's shoes, I'd be standing in my basement looking for any sign of water, screw everyone else (that's just me though).

Bob, you came up with a great idea with the excel spreadsheet. you have the kitchen, start knocking it out.

I came up with filling in the "tip" in the .xmls I should start paying my dues.

Redd, you've found all sorts of info on tp2, organize it hand it off.

As an IT Manager myself, I think it would be ridiculously unfair to expect one guy to do all the work while the everyone else stands around pointing out errors (I'm not pointing a finger) I'm saying a few of us pitch in a helping hand where necessary. I read this thread, and it looks like baby birds in a nest, waiting for a puked up worm.

Scott, I for one volunteer my services to make your life easier. If you need something done that is within my capabilities, I am more than willing to help out.

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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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To be fair, I'm pretty sure Scott has been put under a lot of pressure by his following, myself included to throw stuff together in a hurry. All things considered, if I were in Scott's shoes, I'd be standing in my basement looking for any sign of water, screw everyone else (that's just me though).

Bob, you came up with a great idea with the excel spreadsheet. you have the kitchen, start knocking it out.

I came up with filling in the "tip" in the .xmls I should start paying my dues.

Redd, you've found all sorts of info on tp2, organize it hand it off.

As an IT Manager myself, I think it would be ridiculously unfair to expect one guy to do all the work while the everyone else stands around pointing out errors (I'm not pointing a finger) I'm saying a few of us pitch in a helping hand where necessary. I read this thread, and it looks like baby birds in a nest, waiting for a puked up worm.

Scott, I for one volunteer my services to make your life easier. If you need something done that is within my capabilities, I am more than willing to help out.
i can organize something, will take me a bit but im on it
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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i can organize something, will take me a bit but im on it
I wouldn't do anything until Scott gives the go ahead, he may actually find this idea insulting, who knows?
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

sure, understood
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Re: **31 Mar 09** UPD #20: SSK 1.6 - 3 New OS: 21038, 21042, WM 6.5 21198. 11 Total!!

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It's an incredible tool that is going to help me learn how to play guitar!
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