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Indie 02-05-2009 05:55 PM
(UPDATE 02.09.09) Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Please read this post for an important project update. We are still messing around with ideas on how to best go about this, and since every one agrees it need to be done right, we are playing will all possibilities before setting up anything concrete or final.



First off, thanks and props to squishy for the inspiration.

I would like to start a thread as a place where everyone can go in, post a few lines about their favorite rom, give their favorite rom a broken down rating, and create a thread like Squishy's that involves the entire community. A place where new people or people simply looking to try something new can go and get a feel for what other people's rom experience has been.

My dream is to also have the cooks give a short blurb about their rom be provided for the first post as well, even if it's just ripped from the OP of their rom thread. Then throughout the thread, the cook pick certain quotes about their rom they also feel would make a great contribution to the first page as well.

Perhaps reserving the 2nd and 3rd post for special things such as Review of the Week, or Rom update of the Week, etc. etc.

So let me know what you think about this idea, and if there is enough positive feedback, I'll go ahead and get it fired up. I've provided a poll as well.

MightyMike 02-05-2009 06:27 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Great Idea, although can be very cumbersome considering there are many releases per week. Unless someone is consistently reviewing each rom, this will never work.

Also you have to take into consideration of the "fanboys" overhyping some roms over others.

It CAN be a good idea... If its run properly.

I say do it up... no harm no foul.

Indie 02-05-2009 06:35 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I do agree with your points, this is quite the task for one person and could possibly fail, but I feel it's worth a try.

I would be on top of it as much as I can, I work at a desk and have some free time throughout my day, but there would also need to be assistance from the users as well. Such as providing the quotes, ratings, and reviews of the constant updates. It also requires some input from you cooks as well. I know you guys are busy making things easier for us already, and I don't feel like I'm asking for a ton of extra work from you, but I feel like I am coming from the same state of mind you guys are. How can I make things easier for the community I have been welcomed into and have embraced.

Fanboys will be fanboys, again, I cannot control them from posting here. I don't know if it would be possible to make me a mod of this one single thread or not, but if that is allowed, then I could at least delete fanboyish and troll post as I read through the thread. We would have to seek out permission for that, but again, there is much the users could assist in that even if it's not possible, such as not feeding the fanboys fire and simply ignoring thier post.

Ultimatly it would be a thread community driven. So far from what I have seen, this community is an excellent one. I've been here a week and have felt very welcomed. There may be times where reviews and ratings coming in are slow, but even during those times, at least the thread will exist for new users and even old users looking for guidance in trying out a new rom.

I know when I came into this board for the first time it was overwhelming. Which rom do I pick? Even if this thread doesn't fulfill my full dream, at least it will provide some insight for those that are visiting for the first time.

CozBoogie 02-05-2009 06:38 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymike (Post 692665)
Great Idea, although can be very cumbersome considering there are many releases per week. Unless someone is consistently reviewing each rom, this will never work.

Also you have to take into consideration of the "fanboys" overhyping some roms over others.

It CAN be a good idea... If its run properly.

I say do it up... no harm no foul.
Pretty much spot on with my thoughts!

To add to that though I have only one other word: Egos.

These guys work long and hard to cook up their roms...they have every right to be protective and to think that there's is indeed the best. If something like this could be done objectively it could be a useful tool.

Good luck....

late,
Coz

Indie 02-05-2009 06:47 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
My hope would be to eliminate all negativity and keep things positive. I don't want to dog on any cook, because they are all great. I don't want it to be a "which rom is best" thread, but more so a "which rom is best for me" thread, because honestly, they all provide nothing but good. I think we can all agree, that not one single rom is for everyone or fulfills everyones needs, but that doesn't mean the rom sucks or that it's not a better fit for someone else. That's what I hope this thread would get people to realize.

I know I can't control what people post, but I think it would be great if people could limit thier post in the thread to a few lines about the rom they like, and if they would like to contribute a full review, that those be messaged to me for approval before being posted or presented.

The rating system I would love to have would be where a user only rates their favorite or a single rom. That way nothing but positive comes from it. I can only think of one way to regulate this and that would be count the first person submission only into the ratings on the threads OP, and then if they happen to change roms, again, request to sumbit a new rating by messaging me. Everything would be tracked by me in a simple excel spreadsheet. People also take pride in the rom they use, as well as the cooks, so if they can only rate one rom, chances are they are only going to want to rate the one they love and use, and thus a good majority of the ratings would be positive.

In short, I would impose ways within my ability to limit this thread from being a "this rom is better, because this other rom suck...." thread, simply into a "This rom is good because...." thread. People can make judgements from only good things being said about the various roms here. The negativity is not necessary to do so. I think often people forget this and once they see that it does work the other way, I can forsee this community bonding together even more than it already has.

MightyMike 02-05-2009 06:53 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cozboogie (Post 692698)
Pretty much spot on with my thoughts!

To add to that though I have only one other word: Egos.

These guys work long and hard to cook up their roms...they have every right to be protective and to think that there's is indeed the best. If something like this could be done objectively it could be a useful tool.

Good luck....

late,
Coz

Egos. Well put...

To give you guys a general idea of my mindframe when hearing about my rom. Many people have asked me "Hey Mike, do you track your downloads?"

The answer is simple... no.

I don't want to know how many people downloaded my rom, I don't want to know how many people are using my rom.

It all comes down to egos. I spend a considerable amount of time tweaking my rom to "perfection"

I'd like to think EVERYONE is using it :D
--


To be honest with you. When I see the polls get posted of which ROM do you use, and I see alotta roms with only 1 Vote while other roms are already at 15-20 votes in the first 10 minutes... It shatters my heart as well.

This is the exact reason why in a months time there are only 2-3 chefs left. Because it's all about ego's in the end..

The end....

/end rant

Merdinh 02-05-2009 08:01 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I also support this idea, it would be a lot easier for users to find quick info, and links to ROMS that are best suitable for there needs, and there is a ROM hear for everyone some may be hidden in the back of the thread, and some are in front depending on posts, and this thread would help keep all ROM's at the top so users can easily find info on what they want in a ROM.

MightyMike 02-05-2009 08:03 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Sticky this badboy! lol

Merdinh 02-05-2009 08:10 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymike (Post 692889)
Sticky this badboy! lol
+1.....

Indie 02-05-2009 08:15 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymike (Post 692889)
Sticky this badboy! lol
Were we waiting on merdin's approval for the sticky LOL

I was thinking of starting off with a rough draft build of the post and then share that with you cooks for insight first before posting it onto the forums, i don't want to do anything that offends any of the cooks. I'm sure none of you cooks would mind such a thread exsist, but everyone is different, so it's always good to check with this like this first.

Even when it does get posted, it would probably just be an beta build of the post. I know it sounds funny giving a post project build phases, but as funny as it sounds, I think it would help some users better understand that the thread is an ongoing work in progress, similar to your roms and their version numbers. My vision is to make the OP colorful/color coordinated, much like the OP of your rom pages. If possible, I would like to include the pictures from your rom threads, or a different one if you wish to provide it.

I also have some other loose ideas, such as a monthly interview of one of the cooks. I guess it wouldn't be strictly about rating and comparing the roms, but kinda be like a cook/rom newsletter type of thread, highly driven by the community. I know this is all probably far-fetched, but if I can gain enough support, it could turn into something great for this community.

Merdinh 02-05-2009 09:12 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie (Post 692922)
Were we waiting on merdin's approval for the sticky LOL
Yea thats what it was :^o

Official Approval:

My name is MerdinH, and i approve this thread.

Indie 02-05-2009 09:31 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
KK has showed his support as well and is on board.

Indie 02-06-2009 02:11 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I should have a rough draft whipped up by tomorrow night. If you have any preliminary ideas that would be great. Also, cooks, if you would like to let me know how you want your name displayed i.e. "Mightymike" "MightyMike" "Mighty" "Mike" etc as well as give me a color theme of three colors you would like, that would be awesome.

Thanks and for now, good night

No1ustad 02-06-2009 03:12 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
nice. might finally get rid of all these which ROM should i flash first threads as well

xweaponx 02-06-2009 03:13 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I enjoy tinkering, developing, tweaking and breaking stuff. I even enjoy sharing... sometimes... ;-)

I would be honored & happy to participate any way I can whether or not anything I release is included or not. I am here to see us progress as a whole...

Let me know how I can be of assistance.

ivan1.ruiz 02-06-2009 10:23 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I agree. Go for it im sure we will help as much as we can. I know I will.

It is going to be a hard task since the releases from most Cooks are very constant but hey it can be done.
Good luck and lets get it done!!!

CozBoogie 02-06-2009 12:49 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I must admit this is one of the more tamer threads discussing competing roms. I'll sticky this for a while until the OP has his other post together, and y'all keep posting credible and meaningful material.

Let's not let this one get bogged down with that other stuff.

late,
Coz

Indie 02-06-2009 01:39 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Oh phew....when I saw this stickied I was freaking out yelling to myself "NO NO NO, I'm not ready yet" LOL

This will be even more motivation for me though. Some adjustments have been made at work, so I get off substatially earlier now, that and with the weekend coming up, I should have a good version of the thread by the weekend. I am still on schedule for the rough draft presentation to the cooks to be done tonight as well.

Just a reminder cooks, giving me a 3 color theme and how you would like your name to be written would help me out :)

kevank 02-06-2009 01:43 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cozboogie (Post 694467)
I must admit this is one of the more tamer threads discussing competing roms. I'll sticky this for a while until the OP has his other post together, and y'all keep posting credible and meaningful material.

Let's not let this one get bogged down with that other stuff.
I agree. Let's no get bogged down with "stuff" in this thread. It is a great idea. I for one don't feel like I am competing with the other Chef's. I am doing this for fun... (twisted I know) and I consider most of our ROMs complimentary. We all offer something a little different.

InvincibleLiving 02-06-2009 01:46 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cozboogie (Post 692698)
Pretty much spot on with my thoughts!

To add to that though I have only one other word: Egos.

These guys work long and hard to cook up their roms...they have every right to be protective and to think that there's is indeed the best. If something like this could be done objectively it could be a useful tool.

Good luck....

late,
Coz
totally agree Coz... sheesh I dont even COOK roms and I've got the biggest ego on the site... check my sig :sign5:

CozBoogie 02-06-2009 01:58 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nautica2450 (Post 694649)
totally agree Coz... sheesh I dont even COOK roms and I've got the biggest ego on the site... check my sig :sign5:
Check with Mr. Indie and maybe he can add you to the list of cookers purely based on the size of your ego!

late,
Coz

scrosler 02-06-2009 02:17 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymike (Post 692739)
Egos. Well put...

To give you guys a general idea of my mindframe when hearing about my rom. Many people have asked me "Hey Mike, do you track your downloads?"

The answer is simple... no.

I don't want to know how many people downloaded my rom, I don't want to know how many people are using my rom.

It all comes down to egos. I spend a considerable amount of time tweaking my rom to "perfection"

I'd like to think EVERYONE is using it :D
--


To be honest with you. When I see the polls get posted of which ROM do you use, and I see alotta roms with only 1 Vote while other roms are already at 15-20 votes in the first 10 minutes... It shatters my heart as well.

This is the exact reason why in a months time there are only 2-3 chefs left. Because it's all about ego's in the end..

The end....

/end rant
IU agree and will nto even try to argue the posistion.. except about your ROM being on every phone... Everyone knows its MY ROM that should be on all phones ;c)

In the end if this is pulled off objectively and lets everyone submit there favorites and stays current I will support this. But I think you will find fanboys come in and start arguing, chefs like me that get left out, etc.

Your asking for a huge project but you have my support.... if you do it the way I want ;c) hehehehe.

I do think you should eliminate any poll that lets you pick a favorite ROM, instead show us how sincere you are and track each response from the users.


-Scott

scrosler 02-06-2009 02:18 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie (Post 692922)
Were we waiting on merdin's approval for the sticky LOL

I was thinking of starting off with a rough draft build of the post and then share that with you cooks for insight first before posting it onto the forums, i don't want to do anything that offends any of the cooks. I'm sure none of you cooks would mind such a thread exsist, but everyone is different, so it's always good to check with this like this first.

Even when it does get posted, it would probably just be an beta build of the post. I know it sounds funny giving a post project build phases, but as funny as it sounds, I think it would help some users better understand that the thread is an ongoing work in progress, similar to your roms and their version numbers. My vision is to make the OP colorful/color coordinated, much like the OP of your rom pages. If possible, I would like to include the pictures from your rom threads, or a different one if you wish to provide it.

I also have some other loose ideas, such as a monthly interview of one of the cooks. I guess it wouldn't be strictly about rating and comparing the roms, but kinda be like a cook/rom newsletter type of thread, highly driven by the community. I know this is all probably far-fetched, but if I can gain enough support, it could turn into something great for this community.
This sounds like a useful idea. IM not going to deny it. What I woudl do is eliminate any user "feedback" about performance. Do a spreadsheet with just "out of the download" features. I would try hard to stay away from any objecvtive measurement. Doing so will ensure there is no bias.

Indie 02-06-2009 02:20 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
I never intended there to be a poll, and your suggestions support me in that have furthered encouraged me to not make one. I feel the rating system I have thought up, will provide a fair, balanced, and mostly postive feed to all of the cooks/rom envolved. I will have more information on how this will work as well for you cooks soon also, and will be open to suggestions and changes.

Edit, just saw Scott's post. i agree that a features breakdown would be a great help, I will add that to the to do list. A little info on my rating system is that again, people would only be allowed to rate one rom, which will most likely be their favorite, so a majority of the feedback will be positive. It wouldn't simply be a overall rating of the rom, but broken down rating of different categories, such as speed, features, presentation, etc etc of the rom. This may be axed altogether, but I think it would create a fair assesment of the roms. For instance, one may have a avg of 9 for speed, and another of 7, but the 7 may have more features included, so it would get a 9 for that, while the faster one may get a 7. There are comparisons obviously involved, but I feel that it is a positive and fair comparison. Again, I will have more info for the cooks throughout the weekend. If you have feedback on what I just shared, feel free to reply or PM me.

scrosler 02-06-2009 02:20 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cozboogie (Post 694467)
I must admit this is one of the more tamer threads discussing competing roms. I'll sticky this for a while until the OP has his other post together, and y'all keep posting credible and meaningful material.

Let's not let this one get bogged down with that other stuff.

late,
Coz
What "stuff" might you be reffering to? ahahahaha... No no no, dont answer.



I agree. Lets get this puppy rolling. I got a new release coming out this weekend as well....... Its fat!

scrosler 02-06-2009 02:21 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie (Post 694768)
I never intended there to be a poll, and your suggestions support me in that have furthered encouraged me to not make one. I feel the rating system I have thought up, will provide a fair, balanced, and mostly postive feed to all of the cooks/rom envolved. I will have more information on how this will work as well for you cooks soon also, and will be open to suggestions and changes.
Cool cool! Lets do it.

You got my support!

jakdillard 02-06-2009 02:46 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.

XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.

I hate to be the nay sayer but what is the benefit from this .... what do new comers gain .... what do a person who is wanting to learn how to make a rom getting from this ..... The quote from above came from XDA when I saw it ... it changed my thinking about cooking and sharing ... that is why I stoped "protecting" my roms (that and you can still dump them anyway lol) but honestly I think that this is just another comparison thread just more candy coated .....to keep this real ..... most of the users here go by faith in a certain "cook" and don't really try most roms longer then a week if that . So my point is this is what kinda makes most people kinda shy away from here not because they can't handle the comparison but because of the nature of what is going on .... and the lack of gaining knowledge .... and to throw this out there but the so-called "fanboys" is what creates the egos of most "chefs" so without these "fanboys" where would your "chef" be .... making my point that this "idea" would be biased ..... and somewhat political .... so in spirit maybe PPCGeeks should keep the idea of frowning of threads like these

CozBoogie 02-06-2009 03:09 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Well let's see what Mr. Indie comes up with over the weekend. Perhaps it'll be the Holy Grail..perhaps a complete dud. But let's just hold off until we see the product.

late,
Coz

scrosler 02-06-2009 03:22 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cozboogie (Post 694917)
Well let's see what Mr. Indie comes up with over the weekend. Perhaps it'll be the Holy Grail..perhaps a complete dud. But let's just hold off until we see the product.

late,
Coz
+1 Agreed. Lets not let it fail until it fails. Lets try to not let it fail.

I think the OP's attempt at reaching out to the Chef's before posting the thread was a great measure of the attitude and possible effort that will be put forth. I think if done in a non political / non biased way this would be a great thread. If he comes out with "Ok here is my speed comparison" of these ROM's... Yeah, its going to fail.

Lets just see what happanes. Coz is already involved so if it gets out of hand he will keep us in line or close the thread.

Indie 02-06-2009 03:49 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrosler (Post 694952)
+1 Agreed. Lets not let it fail until it fails. Lets try to not let it fail.

I think the OP's attempt at reaching out to the Chef's before posting the thread was a great measure of the attitude and possible effort that will be put forth. I think if done in a non political / non biased way this would be a great thread. If he comes out with "Ok here is my speed comparison" of these ROM's... Yeah, its going to fail.

Lets just see what happanes. Coz is already involved so if it gets out of hand he will keep us in line or close the thread.
I'm taking all things said here into consideration, as of right now, this thread will be more informational than it will opinionated. With hopefully some extras thrown in, such as the interview on the month and review of the month. Again, which would be messaged and then approved by me. Similar to Squishy's reviews, which seem to have had mostly a positive reaction. Perhaps alternating which rom is reviewed to be fair, such as having that months review be of that months interviewed chef's rom.

MaskedLion 02-06-2009 08:06 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
you're right, I didn't.

Indie 02-06-2009 09:06 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
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Since the poll is looking in favor of at least giving this a shot, I have written up a very very rough draft.

Here is the upload of the rough draft for the cooks who have replied to this idea and shown their support. The file is password protected, those needing the password have been provided with it. We will post the thread when we are ready to reveal it to the world. It still far off so don't expect anything for a few days.

If any other cooks are interested, let me know and we can catch you up and add you to the thread and provide you the password.

Coz or other mods, if you would like the password to the file, let me know and I will send it to you.

Indie 02-06-2009 10:23 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Hey xweaponx, sorry to leave you out of the loop, I'll send you the password to view it as it is right now, and then update it to have your info as well later tonight hopefully.

jakdillard 02-07-2009 03:50 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaskedLion (Post 695604)
It is this exact attitude/ego that should be guarded against, not the person who is trying to understand but the person who is trying to prevent understanding and colaborative discussion. I didn't realize I had to be a "ROM Developer" to join this community, at least that wasn't on the TOS. I thought this was more about making the most out of our devices, and since "the most" means something different to almost everyone it is important to identify what "the most" is in each of the different ROMs. If they aren't different, then why do we have more than one?? What is your fear? That other's ROMs will be more along the lines of what the majority is seeking?
This is not meant to be an attack on you jak, it is just your view of a ROM comparison thread that is shared by others that I don't understand. No I don't think that everyone should have to flash every ROM out there, just to understand what they are like. There is a risk to flashing, or else why would every ROM maker put the "What you do to your device is your problem" line in their thread?
you did not read my post right

gguruusa 02-07-2009 01:36 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 696375)
you did not read my post right
Of course not. Like Cozboogie, his interest is in getting a ROM fix with the least effort. Providing an area conducive to raising the next generation of cookers is somewhere way down the list of priorities.

Personally, I fail to see how the goal will be met for any length of time with the proposed solution. You are going to essentially get post#1 from anyone participating and add a bunch of administrative overhead. Maybe if you changed the goal to creating a template for post #1s to follow.

Indie 02-07-2009 03:51 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
1 Attachment(s)
Latest version for the cooks

Added conflipper and xweaponx
Links are now active.
Limited change log notes to past 3 updates
Updated MightyROM to version 4.9.4

If you want anything changed, wording, links, name, colors, etc. Just let me know.

ivan1.ruiz 02-07-2009 09:33 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie (Post 697027)
Latest version for the cooks

Added conflipper and xweaponx
Links are now active.
Limited change log notes to past 3 updates
Updated MightyROM to version 4.9.4

If you want anything changed, wording, links, name, colors, etc. Just let me know.
This looks great bro!!

JAVIERBOND007 02-07-2009 09:45 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Great idea...

Indie 02-08-2009 12:34 AM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Chef's please check your PMs for updated information.

Indie 02-08-2009 04:54 PM
Re: Review/Rating Thread Idea
 
Here is the post as it stands right now. Obviously it is far come being completed and we are far from starting it on it's own thread. Just letting everyone know how it looks so that I can get feedback and suggestions. Right now the direction of this thread has steered from being a rating/review thread and more of a ROM information thread. The chefs and myself felt it would be better to get a good foundation of information built first, and then slowly transition unbias fair postitive opinions into the thread. This will be done over a substantial length of time and very carefully.

Right now the feature table is incomplete, it will be completed soon. I need all chefs to read their pm's and provide me with the info I asked for please. I also need suggestions on how to present this thread as well. I'm new here myself so don't know all the tricks that a post allows. I.E. Can the code field be made larger? I will probably make a image of the table as well soon, so that it can be seen all at once with little need to scroll.


On my IMMEDIATE to do list are
update SSK information for new 1.5 Final
Give feature table a header
Overall filling in of missing info

Anyways, here it is, please leave positive and constructive feedback :)

Indie



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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...ar160710_1.gifMERDIN’s ROM v3.4 http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...ar160710_1.gif

ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | Dark Blue Manila Add-On | Homepage
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"If your looking for a loaded ROM with speed, and stability, then Merdin's Rom is the way to go." ~Merdinh~

Code:
2-1-2009
V3.4

New Manilla
fixed weather text, and size
Fixed Voice Command erro, Now fully works
fixed Ringtone issue
fixed youtube
fixed Sounds tab now shows everything
updated explorer softkey to resco explorer
Reverted to Build 20954
More accurate battery % left
Fixed Teeter Vibrations its now located in Programs, and not games
Removed JetCet Print
Removed Klaxon
Removed flip it
Added bluetooth switch
Added new speaker icon in taskbar
Removed red curtains
Updated Tweaks, added more
New calender icon in touchflo
Updated Slide to Unlock with fix


1-25-2009
v3.3

Manilla updates
Fixed youtube app
Fixed Taskbar, now back in rom
Updated theme
updated windows player skin
added Icontacts with tweaks
updated streaming media
added new subfolders in programs
New Custom program launcher mcenter
New custom Keyboard
Fixed opera lag
Fixed opera landscape re run
Added back df taskmanager
updated Bluetooth Explorer
Added Flip IT
updated Codecs
Updated phone canvas
Updated Manilla Tabs
added new 3d battery
Fixed keyboard lag
updated splash
added Agps settings
Updated Build to 21109.6.1.0
changed manilla clock
new bootloader
updated tweaks
updated manilla highlights
updated startMenu + highlights
added back jetcet print
added back phm RegEdit


1-21-2009
v3.2

Fixed Opera Mobile issue
Removed custom toolbar
Fixed font issue on home page
fixed keyboard popup issue
edited Registry entries.




http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar23264_1.gif Scrosler's SSK 1.2 http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar23264_1.gif

ROM Thread | Download Version 1.2 | Download Version 1.5 Beta 2 | Homepage
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"A fast and stable ROM. Thats all there is to say." ~Scrosler~

Code:
I made three variations of the ROM to try to suite all needs!
All ROM's have the following in common:
 
*Keep your custom EPST settings. Safe for Non Verizon branded phones!
*No longer have lllboredlll GPS Fix V2 although it is still 100% compatible!!
*If you have the lllboredlll GPS fix it will continue to work.
If you dont have the GPS Fix its fully compatible! Go get your GPS working now!
*Built on CE OS 5.2.21109 Build 21109.1.6.0 - Hybrid XIP shows as CE OS 19997
(Or something!)
*9 meg page pool vs 6 meg stock page pool.
*No UI Tweaks or graphic changes. Although they can be found in SSK Online!
*UC AutoRun Capable!
*SSK Online! Rev 0
*You Tube from Diamond ROM 2.00 - Thanks Conflipper and Juggalo!
*HTC Network Plug In
*GPS tools
 
Here are the variations in ROM choices:
Scott's Choice Edition - Designed for the Speed Freak / Power User
Removed HTC Keyboard, Large Start Menu, Large Title bar, HTC Scrolling (uses Microsoft
standard scrolling.)
This ROM will have the most free RAM and will be the fastest due to the stripping of
all the HTC bloat.
 
Standard Edition- Designed for the user who wants primarily a
stock ROM with the added speed of a custom ROM
99.99% Stock
Nothing else to say
 
Deluxe Edition - Designed for users that want a ROM with a
good assortment of extra's
The apps on here are designed to show you what this baby can do! These were all hand
picked by me. These are the apps everyone downloads when they first get there TouchPro,
trust me!
Sensor Apps - Diamond Hologram, Gyrator, Seismo, G-Light, Klaxon Alarm Clock
Utilities - Advanced Config 3.3, Diamond tweak .5.3, Glossy Black Bars,
nueFonts with extra fonts, Sprite Back Up, Diamond TF3D Config .6.7
GPS - Live Search, Google Maps, HTC GPS Tool, HTC Quick GPS


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar11669_1.gif Ivan's Sprint ROM 1.8 http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar11669_1.gif

ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | Sprint CAB Add-on | Donate
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Code:
Download Ivan's Rom v1.7 Black


RELEASE
1/28/2009
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[ ]Updated "Phonecanvas"="3_40_32288_1"
[ ]Updated "StreamingMedia"="3_0_18221528_00"
[ ]Updated "AutoShortcut"="1_1_1_0"
[ ]Updated "CommManager"="2_7_5_0"
[ ]Updated "AutoRun"="4_31_6_2"
[ ]Updated "RandomAccess"="4_1_18222125_0"
[ ]Updated "AudioBooster"="2_0_18192227_0"
[ ]Updated "HTCMessage"="1_73_3_371"
[ ]Updated "WLANSettings"="2_4_1_0"
[ ]Updated "Dshow"="2_00_081111_0"
[ ]Updated "ConcurrenceMgr"="1_2_18192826_0000"
[ ]Updated "YouTube"="1_6_1822_2028"
[ ]Updated "AudioManager_Eng"="1_6_18221325_0"
[ ]Updated "HTCUtil"="2_38_0_0"
[ ]Updated "USBtoPC_exe"="1_20_0_0"
[ ]Updated "USBToPCPopUp"="2_2_18183126_0"
[ ]Updated "RSSHub"="2_1_1_1077"
[ ]Updated "BTFtp"="1_2_33309_91"
[ ] Updated ROM date 01/20/09
[ ] Updated ROM version in boot screen
[ ] Changed to CE OS 5.2.20764 (Build 20769) (testing waters)

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Download Ivan's Rom v1.6 Black

RELEASE
1/19/2009
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[#] Build 20769
[+] nuepackageinstaller
[-] removed comic sans font and revert to stock
[#] ROM date updated
[#] Rom version on start up updated
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Download Ivan's Rom v1.5 Black

RELEASE
1/11/2009
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[+] Social Networks with facebook thanks mike
[+] changed font on TF3D only
[#] updated manila to add profile tab
[#] fixed menu option on messages tf3d
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http://i38.tinypic.com/2i0b5gi.jpg MightyMike's Mighty ROM 4.9.4 Blackout Edition http://i38.tinypic.com/2i0b5gi.jpg

ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | MightyROM Essentials Add-Ons | Profile
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"MightyROM is intended to be a 100% STABLE Release. The direction of this rom is to provide a full working release for every day use, limiting the number of flashes per week." ~Mightymike~

Code:
MightyROM
Version 4.9.4 Telus | Sprint | Alltel | MTS | Cricket | Bell Mobility |Cellular South | Verizon
( S e r v e r - 1  P r o v i d e d  B y  C e d o N u l l i )
( S e r v e r - 2  P r o v i d e d  B y  P y r o t e c h - T o t a l G a m e r )
( S e r v e r - 3  P r o v i d e d  B y  L i l R i c o )
( S e r v e r - 4  P r o v i d e d  B y  S t e v e d U S A )

I would like to ask everyone, after you have downloaded your rom,
please proceed to ANY post from Lil Rico and click THANKS!!!!!
He definitely did quite the job with customizations. Show Some Support! :)

Thank you

- Mike

Click Here To Download MightyROM Version 4.9.4 - CedoNulli Mirror
Click Here To Download MightyROM Version 4.9.4 - PyroTech Mirror
Click Here To Download MightyROM Version 4.9.4 - LilRico Mirror
Click Here To Download MightyROM Version 4.9.4 - StevedUSA Mirror

MightyROM 4.9.4 - TOUCHPRO EDITION
[ # ] Complete Manila Overhaul By Lil Rico!
[ # ] Manila CFC Patched (Improves Manila Speed + Reduces Files By 6MB)
[ # ] Lil Rico Black Focus Highlights (Green Highlights Removed)
[ # ] Lil Rico Black Focus Communications Manager
[ # ] Lil Rico Custom Volume Control (Metallic/Black Gradients)
[ # ] Lil Rico Custom Black Microsoft Keyboard
[ # ] Added - MightyMike BLACKOUT Customization
Includes BLACK Slide 2 Answer + Black Call Log Upon Flash
Can be removed from Add/Remove Programs (Reverts To White)
[ # ] Updated - Manila Engine (Touch HD Engine)
[ # ] Added - HD People Tab In TouchFlo3D
[ # ] Updated - Google Maps With Latitude Support
[ # ] Added - Hardware Keyboard Registry Tweaks
[ # ] Reverted - Opera 9.5.15316

MightyROM 4.9.3 - TOUCH PRO EDITION
[ # ] Massive OS Speed Improvements
[ # ] Sprint PowerDeck = TouchPRO *MerdinH Saves The Day!!!!!*
[ # ] New IE6 Package *Thanks MerdinH*
[ -- ] Telus Carrier Settings
[ + ] Sprint Carrier Settings / MightyMike Custom Build
--------Compatible with all carriers, although build to provide many sprint specific settings
[ + ] HTorch 3.2
[ + ] Opera Mobile 9.5.15455
[ -- ] Ezinput Language Support > English ONLY
[ # ] Re-Added TVOut Functionality

MightyROM 4.9.2 - TOUCH PRO EDITION
[ # ] Updated - Windows Live 10.6.0046.0800
[ # ] Updated - Adobe Flash (Custom Leaked Version) *Thanks Juicy*
[ # ] Fixed - Camera Fun Frame Templates Added
[ # ] Tweaked - Vibrate On Phonecall Connect Set As Default
[ # ] Removed - Large Title Bar Icon In Settings Menu (Option Located In TouchFLO)
[ # ] Fixed - Signal Strength 5 Bar Display
[ # ] TouchPro Device ID


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar18724_1.gif KK's Loaded ROM v1.4 http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar18724_1.gif

ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | Download #2 | Profile
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Code:


v1.4
[+] File System Performance Tweaks
[+] WIFI Performance Tweaks
[+] SD Card Performance Tweaks
[+] HTC Footprints Geotagging APP(This is beta and has bugs but works ok. 
    The TF3D tab for this app is not there - Just the app.) Shortcut is in the media folder.
[+] StopWatch 2.0
[+] GWatch 0.51
[+] Omniano (A Piano App)
[+] In Call Recording App is installed and works.
[+] WaterLevel v2
[-] Old Stopwatch App
[ ] FYI - The first boot customizations take even longer now. Seems like forever.  Be patient.

v1.3
[+] Web Video Downloader
[+] Trapster Mobile 2 - Tracks speed cams and such.
[+] Corrected TF3D HD Font colors for some tabs.
[+] Working comm-manager tab doesn't disable the tab customization under TF3D settings.
[ ] Disabling direct push on the communications tab in TF works correctly.
[-] Removed TaskFacade (I believe this is the cause of the battery drain for some users)
[ ] Press and hold send button unassigned.  Program it for whatever you want.  (Used to be TaskFacade.

v1.2
[+] Transparent Flip Clock
[+] Semi-Transparent Bottom Curtain
[ ] Fixed Album Shortcut
[+] dci Battery Meter (thnx gspitman)
[+] Upgrade games pack
[ ] HD Manila Laucher (Start) is hidden in task manager
[+] Home Screen Includes upto 5 Calendar Items
[ ] Fixed the Communications Tab (Clicking on the items actually does something now.)
[+] nueFonts
[-] lvmTopBat



Pocket Sand
Pocket Sudoku
1-Calc Lite
Adobe PDF Le
Advanced Config Tool 3.3
Battery Monitor
ClearTemp
Diamond TF3D Config 0.6.7
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3
FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
Flip It
Mobile Monger 1.1
MusicID 1.3.16
Obex Inbox
PHM NotePad
PHM Registry Editor
PIM Backup
Pocket RAR 3.8
psShutXP
QuickGPS
Spb Screenshot
Touch Response
VNC Enterprise Viewer
aGPS Config
Enlarge Start Menu
JBed Java
GPS Tool 1.1.1.0
Large Title Bar
Long Press End Key
Network Plugin
Random Access
Task Manager
TouchFlo 3.0.29946.52
UC Autorun
Volume Control
dotFred Task Manager
Omnia 0.92.0.50 D3D
Adobe Flash 3.1
Opera Mobile
RSS Hub
Modified Telus Manilla
While Flip Clock
No2's FastCharge - Enabled
Windows Live Search
Google Maps 2.3.0.9
Sprint Nav 2.1.7
Album
Audio Booster
Audio Manager
MP3 Trimmer
Social Networking
Voice Recorder
YouTube
Worldcard Mobile
Black Phone Canvas
Outlook Enhancement
Picture Enhancement
Pocket Picasa
VistaHide Battery Guage


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ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | Download #2 | Homebpage
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Code:
1/21/09

Updated EZinput
Updated Audio Manager
Updated Dshow
Updated Voice Recorder
Updated Stream Media
Updated Zip
Updated Flash
Updated Youtube
Updated EPST
Updated Album
Updated Teeter Added 18 more levels
Updated Audio Booster
Updated Comm Manager
Updated Concurrence Manager
Updated HTC Messenger
Updated HTC Util
Updated Java (working)
Updated USB2PC
Updated Streaming Filter
Updated Task Manger
Updated RSS hub
Updated Random Access

Fixed Java
Fixed Slide2Answer- Working Data arrows
Tweaked XIP for faster startup times
Tweaked the entire thing overall to boost performance.


1/9/09

Opera 15233 (flash support)
PIE 6 Latest version
Flash
Updated Task Manager
Updated Album
Facebook Upload from Album
Full USA Cities Database, Some Canada and Mexico (31,000 Cities thanks to Jshaas2)
Slide2Answer (Thanks Juggalo_X)
Updated D3D drivers (2.03 from latest diamond rom)
Updated Keyboard Software
Updated DShow

*Java is still broke, Still looking into it*

12/22/08
 
Initial release. Included programs are found below.

Known Bugs- Let me know of any that you may have

If you have any questions or need any files let me know and I can get
them for you.


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar36742_2.gif Xweapon's WeaponRom 1.x http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/customavat...tar36742_2.gif

ROM Thread | Download Latest Version | Famous Dye Thread | Profile
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Code:
Included:
TF3D 1.3.35345.2_1630.3 (Weaponized)
Task Manager 2.1 Build 35349
Audio Manager 1.6.1820.3027.h
Album 2.2.1820.3428.M0
Youtube 1.0.1819.4027
PIM Backup v2.8.0.0
Total Commander v1.51
Advanced Config v3.3
G-Alarm v1.4.1 (Weaponized)
Calculator (Weaponized)
NET CF 3.5
Camera 6.4.32007.0
File First and Last
Adobe Flash 3.1
Flash Player 7
Music ID v1.3.16
Opera Mobile 9.5 Build 15316 (Weaponized)
psShutXP (Weaponized)
Diamond Tweak v0/5.3
Pocket RAR v3.8
Touchflo 3.0.29946
USB to PC 2.2.1819.1228.1 (Weaponized)
Random Access 4.1.1819.2922.0 (Weaponized)
VolumeControl 1.0.1817.2830 (Weaponized)
Esmertec Jbed Java 0.0.20081016.21R2
InboxMenuExtensibility
StartClean
GSensorCalibrator 1.0.1819.2126
Games - Kevtris, Freecell, Teeter

Internet Sharing Works
Multi-Select IS enabled
Various tweaks & cache regedits
Rom: 367 Ram: 129 on boot w/ TF3D active
Entire Rom is about 81mb in size(explained below)
24 Pagepool for now...


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