6.5 roms and Juicy's 4.7 rom - Page 3

dutchman71 · #21 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by twolane

I benchmarked both and juicy's was faster without the PP update. See my results in the Mighty thread and the Dream thread..

It's not all about the speed... I tried a bunch before I ended up wit 4.7. It just feels better to me personally. All I added was the new slide to answer stuff and my apps..

Don't get me wrong, Dream's roms and Jugg's roms are also very well done...

Zenoran · #22 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 10:45 AM

so what's the deal with juicy 4.7? I guess I missed all the drama around this ROM... why was it removed and why is it so fast?

TheDude1120 · #23 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrumo

Here ya go

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54855

this doesnt look like the screenshots i saw on engadet??

**Cicatrize** · #24 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenoran

so what's the deal with juicy 4.7? I guess I missed all the drama around this ROM... why was it removed and why is it so fast?

It's just really stable and fairly quick. It was removed because MS said there were traces of confidential source code in his ROM or something.

There's nothing "special" about the ROM except the fact that is has no issues.

Zenoran · #25 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicatrize

It's just really stable and fairly quick. It was removed because MS said there were traces of confidential source code in his ROM or something.

There's nothing "special" about the ROM except the fact that is has no issues.

thanks... trying to catch up on all the threads to figure out what the big deal is... this ROM does seem surprisingly fast but I'm a little confused as to how/why it's so different than the other ones out there... there are 21109 builds released on the forums now and that's > juice's 21014 so I guess it can't be just the wm build that's making it fast???

hmm.. the reading continues...

**Cicatrize** · #26 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenoran

thanks... trying to catch up on all the threads to figure out what the big deal is... this ROM does seem surprisingly fast but I'm a little confused as to how/why it's so different than the other ones out there... there are 21109 builds released on the forums now and that's > juice's 21014 so I guess it can't be just the wm build that's making it fast???

hmm.. the reading continues...

I don't know. I haven't been too impressed with the 21109 builds, but 21014 seems to be a bit quicker.

**LilRico** · #27 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 01:23 PM

Guys, I think we're missing something here. Please get off the build #'s, that's not exactly what makes the entire ROM, it is a key part, but not everything. The cook is, and I'll tell you why.

You can download the same build number from multiple chefs, and none of them will function the same, though they might have similarities. Here's the deal. Juicy is a well informed, well knowledge chef who just doesn’t drop in a build and say okay I got a new Build #. He tweaks the core 1st before adding visuals and other things to it. His bases are all solid with great optimizations to caching, video drivers, etc. It’s not just a build update and bam its done, and I think that's where people are getting confused. Anyone can make their own ROM, but unless they know how to dissect it to make it better, then that will separate the real chefs from the ones in training. I'm not dissing or throwing anyone down, but you can tell Juicy's work is very through and why you will use a ROM of his with the same build # as someone else, but it will run smoother because of the extra optimizations and changes he's done.

Take it like this. I can install XP on a computer, give someone the same CD and they can install XP on a different computer with the same specs and install the same software. If I do msconfig changes, turn off un-needed services and tweak other things, my XP will run faster, even though we have same version, same system, same software. That is kind of like what Juicy is compared to myself in making ROM's.

Zenoran · #28 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LilRico

Guys, I think we're missing something here. Please get off the build #'s, that's not exactly what makes the entire ROM, it is a key part, but not everything. The cook is

Ya, personally I'm getting kinda tired of seeing 50 different "cooks" claiming they're "developers" by just copying and pasting crap around from kitchen to kitchen. Juicy obviously knows what he's doing because I can see a clear difference in this ROM and it's the closest to the awesome speed I've seen since I had the fuze... I sure miss those GSM ROMs, those guys def know what they're doing over at xda.

Anyways, sorry to hear juicy got the bad wrap... by far the best and fastest CDMA ROM I've used... I'll probably be happy with this until 6.5 stuff comes out, and hopefully juicy will come back to developing.

**Cicatrize** · #29 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LilRico

Guys, I think we're missing something here. Please get off the build #'s, that's not exactly what makes the entire ROM, it is a key part, but not everything. The cook is, and I'll tell you why.

I definitely know this. I'm a developer/programmer at my job, so I know how that works.

I was merely stating that all the ROM's I've used based off of the 21109 base haven't been that great.

**LilRico** · #30 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicatrize

I definitely know this. I'm a developer/programmer at my job, so I know how that works.

I was merely stating that all the ROM's I've used based off of the 21109 base haven't been that great.

Yup, I'm using a build 207XX and it works perfectly and has absolutely no bugs at all. 6.5 I feel is going to be the big turning point.