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ruskiyab 11-06-2008 02:15 AM

I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
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I have changed the Pagepool on JD's Touch Pro ROM using a hex editor as described in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43110 Except this is the line I had to edit

03 15 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e

sn0b0ard 11-06-2008 02:55 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruskiyab (Post 500237)
I have changed the Pagepool on JD's Touch Pro ROM using a hex editor as described in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43110

Can't you just use the PagePoolChanger program to do this?

I think you have a typo in your Title btw ;)

ruskiyab 11-06-2008 03:04 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sn0b0ard (Post 500309)
Can't you just use the PagePoolChanger program to do this?

I think you have a typo in your Title btw ;)

Took me a while to find the typo too lol. Someone change it please.

And no, the PagePool Changer does not work

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 03:11 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
Ok, what is the diff between dynamic and static pagepool. I am more than comfortable with hexing since its a must with programming rat's and such and I know dynamic means it fluxuates with use and static dosn't but in realworld uses is there any benefit to a dynamic pagepool over say a 24 static?

ruskiyab 11-06-2008 03:16 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
No idea. Just set mine to 24mb static

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 03:18 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
is it a noticeable enough change to bother changing it on JD's latest rom and reflashing? I am already running the latest but am having some problems with picturemail so am considering re-flashing and if you say its alot faster I might as well get it over with, LOL.

ruskiyab 11-06-2008 03:27 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a diamond rom
 
Well... it took less than 4 second to open the windows directory in total commander. Don't know if that's much of an indication. It's really responsive. I wouldn't reflash just to change it but next time you reflash, just go for it. Besides, JD said he's updating tomorrow

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 03:29 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
ahhh, well, i am going to change it and flash just to find out if thats my problem with picturemail since sprints site is down and I wanted to redownload that update cab. And if its still not working i will do the same with his new update tomorrow.

ruskiyab 11-06-2008 03:46 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Doubt that would fix your problem with picturemail... and check your PM

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 03:55 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruskiyab (Post 500363)
Doubt that would fix your problem with picturemail... and check your PM

its almost 3am and I am not forming proper sentences again. What I meant is since I planned on re-flashing to test if that might have been problem with picturemail and this has just came out for setting pagepool I am going to kill two birds with one stone, and flash is done now and it is lightning fast compared to last flash and memory reflects an actual change so it seems this pagepool option works. Will post on the picturemail in a few after I can check it out in JD's thread

aceracer24 11-06-2008 11:11 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Traditionally, when it comes to PC's, a dynamic page file is considered a bad thing. Most people will make the pagefile static and 1.5 to 2.0 times physical available ram which in most cases helps computer performance.

For mobile phones, the page pool is used in the same way but there is far less available memory to create a pagepool that would function for all programs. If you use a static pagepool and a program requires more then what is available, then you get a slower responding program. If you use a dynamic pagepool, that same program will use all available memory that it needs which in theory should make it respond faster. Since every program is different, a dynamic pagepool makes sense. You don't have to commit to any specific memory size.

I have not done any benchmarking or testing but I have been using dynamic pagepools since I found out you could and for me the programs are at least as fast as everyone else that uses static.

Yay 4 Juggs 11-06-2008 11:38 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
looking into jd's rom i could not find that string...any clue as to the lines you found them?

mikee4fun 11-06-2008 12:43 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Well all I can tell you is that I can change the Page Pool just fine with the Page Pool changer I posted. You see the difference in memory however it is a special rom and not available here. When the PPC kitchen drops this weekend you will not have to hex anything and will be able to use the Page Pool changer. Just ask Colonel.

Cheers,

Mikee

ppcninjaz 11-06-2008 01:27 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
using the page pool changer didnt work for me on either the stock rom or JDs rom. i will try the hex edit method on JD's next update

tsab 11-06-2008 01:45 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 500726)
looking into jd's rom i could not find that string...any clue as to the lines you found them?

I'm not familiar with jd's rom. If it is built off of the stock rom for the Sprint Touch Pro, try this hex string for the default pagepool offset:

Code:

03 15 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 E5 3E BB FF EB
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikee4fun (Post 500967)
Well all I can tell you is that I can change the Page Pool just fine with the Page Pool changer I posted. You see the difference in memory however it is a special rom and not available here. When the PPC kitchen drops this weekend you will not have to hex anything and will be able to use the Page Pool changer. Just ask Colonel.

Your statement is a bit misleading. What about folks who do not plan to use the PPC kitchen or roms built from it? The original reason for providing the pagepool offset information and instructions to modify it, referenced in the Diamond upgrades forum, was for educational and learning purposes. Keep in mind, in its present form and when it actually works, the pagepool changer does not modify the dynamic/static offset thus creating only static pagepools. I encourage folks who are comfortable with hex editing to try various combinations of both pagepool sizes and types. We all use our devices in different ways, with different programs and have different expectations for performance.

-tsab

Tilde88 11-06-2008 02:36 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs (Post 500726)
looking into jd's rom i could not find that string...any clue as to the lines you found them?


you may need to disable the 'Case Sensitve' feature when you are searching for the string :)

Tilde88 11-06-2008 03:09 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruskiyab (Post 500237)
I have changed the Pagepool on JD's Touch Pro ROM using a hex editor as described in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43110 Except this is the line I had to edit

03 15 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e

you rusky help me out plz.
I edited
03 15 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e (string lines 5BA51 and 37F704)

to

20 16 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e

in hopes of getting the 32 megs of static...
Immediately after flashing, I removed the battery for a few mins, and booted up to install WM... Memory still shows 203megs. Any suggestions?

**EDIT**
I also tried changing the string to 18 16 from a fresh nbh (JDs) to the same effect. Please help?

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 04:11 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 501419)
you rusky help me out plz.
I edited
03 15 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e (string lines 5BA51 and 37F04)

to

20 16 A0 03 06 16 A0 13 00 10 83 e5 3e

in hopes of getting the 32 megs of static...
Immediately after flashing, I removed the battery for a few mins, and booted up to install WM... Memory still shows 203megs. Any suggestions?

**EDIT**
I also tried changing the string to 18 16 from a fresh nbh (JDs) to the same effect. Please help?

there are two strings and you must change BOTH of them, after you search and change the first one click search again and do the same thing for the second

Tilde88 11-06-2008 04:26 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
i did, i just didnt emphasize it.in the parenthesis i stated that i edited both lines...

ppcninjaz 11-06-2008 04:33 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
thanks! did this on jds 5 final rom, and placebo or not is defiantley FEELS smoother/faster! woohoo!

pyroz 11-06-2008 05:52 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppcninjaz (Post 501714)
thanks! did this on jds 5 final rom, and placebo or not is defiantley FEELS smoother/faster! woohoo!

what exactly does this entail?

Tilde88 11-06-2008 06:14 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
i will admit that though it is a stock rom, JDs rom seems to run pretty quick. however, after editing the NBH myself on both lines with values for 32 and 24 MB of PagePool, and reflashing... the ram size is still the same... perhaps I am doing something wrong...

aceracer24 11-06-2008 06:47 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 502050)
i will admit that though it is a stock rom, JDs rom seems to run pretty quick. however, after editing the NBH myself on both lines with values for 32 and 24 MB of PagePool, and reflashing... the ram size is still the same... perhaps I am doing something wrong...

I am not sure you would actually see that ram as used...I could be wrong though.

ppcninjaz 11-06-2008 06:51 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
If the hex edit worked, your "Total Memory" should be LOWER. if it still says ~203 MB in total memory, it's still using the default 6mb pagepool

tsab 11-06-2008 07:03 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppcninjaz (Post 502199)
If the hex edit worked, your "Total Memory" should be LOWER. if it still says ~203 MB in total memory, it's still using the default 6mb pagepool

The default pagepool size for both the Sprint Diamond and Sprint Touch Pro stock roms is 12MB (03 15 in hex), not 6MB. You can verify this by setting a pagepool size of zero (00 15 or 00 16). Total Program memory will increase to around 215MB.

-tsab

ppcninjaz 11-06-2008 07:04 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
my mistake =p but my comment still stands (in general)!

madzilla 11-06-2008 08:19 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
so if you change it to 00 15 will it be a unlimited page pool or whatever (the mode where it uses as much as it needs to)

ruskiyab 11-06-2008 08:31 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Theoretically. Try it out. I'll stick to 24mb though. It's really fast, anything bigger is overkill IMO

madzilla 11-06-2008 08:39 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
I just switched it to 32mb :D

Tilde88 11-06-2008 08:56 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madzilla (Post 502456)
I just switched it to 32mb :D

well than can someone please help me?? ive hex edited JDs rom so many times (on both lines) and my memory still shows 203... so its not working... can someone post a pic of the mem page when using the 32megs? and the nbh too :D

madzilla 11-06-2008 09:46 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
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Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 502496)
well than can someone please help me?? ive hex edited JDs rom so many times (on both lines) and my memory still shows 203... so its not working... can someone post a pic of the mem page when using the 32megs? and the nbh too :D

This is what it shows me.

deviant.ones 11-06-2008 10:17 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 502496)
well than can someone please help me?? ive hex edited JDs rom so many times (on both lines) and my memory still shows 203... so its not working... can someone post a pic of the mem page when using the 32megs? and the nbh too :D

I don't know how to take a screenshot but mine is 179 total with it set at 36 Dynamic

blkr00t 11-06-2008 11:09 PM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
deviant.ones...are you using JD's ROM? I have tried unsuccessfully for the past hour to even find the hex string to edit. I'm using a generic freeware hex editor that I downloaded. Can someone point me in the right direction here? I like JD's ROM and have it about where I want it but if I could jump on a larger PP that would really make it snappy. I must admit that my Mogul is still snappier than my TP. I p***** my Mogul down to my oldest son and he is running a ROM from Scott Crossler and it is really quick. Any help would be appreciated though, I really want to increase my PP.

deviant.ones 11-07-2008 12:16 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
I was upping an already hexed JD5 Final rom for someone else but if you like I can just post it here for anyone that dosn't want to hex, I am using a 36 Dynamic pagepool now since he released this version with no side effects at all and it is pretty snappy so I am happy. Lemme know if you want the link and I will post it here.

blkr00t 11-07-2008 12:24 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Yes deviant I would love the post. I too am on JD5 and plan to stay on this ROM for the foreseeable future. This ROM gives me everything that I need and with the addition of gyrator, I get to tease my wife more. My wife also has a TP but does not want me to flash it at all. She is happy with her stock ROM for now....that is until I get the PP increased and show her how much snappier mine is than hers. I would love to go with the 36 dynamic PP.

jesse4119 11-07-2008 12:26 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
How can I play my music on my touch pro using my storage card,tried to but can only play one at a time have to go back and change it manually.Also have to search it on file explorer...

deviant.ones 11-07-2008 12:29 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Well, in 2 min it will be up and yea, gyrator and sensorlock are both pretty nice. I also have iGo8 and the 3D mapping and vga display is amazing on the TP.

deviant.ones 11-07-2008 12:32 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4119 (Post 502996)
How can I play my music on my touch pro using my storage card,tried to but can only play one at a time have to go back and change it manually.Also have to search it on file explorer...

Open up the media player and then remove and re-insert your card and it should ask you to search card for media. Just hit yes, after that finish's you can use the tf3d music screen and hit play and it will just play off your media list which will now have all your media located on it.

deviant.ones 11-07-2008 12:33 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Ok, here is JD's 5 Final set with 36 Dynamic Pagepool. Enjoy.

http://rapidshare.com/files/16139530...final.zip.html

lnchbx13 11-07-2008 12:35 AM

Re: I have successfully changed the PagePool size on a Touch Pro rom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4119 (Post 502996)
How can I play my music on my touch pro using my storage card,tried to but can only play one at a time have to go back and change it manually.Also have to search it on file explorer...

I know there is a free program called slide2play that looks like the iphone coverflow app.

The program I use is awesome, you can do so much with it, plus it is also finger friendly and since we have the touch pro we don't have to worry about the massive amount of ram it uses. Check out the videos on it and what it can do, including connect to your home pc via orb to listen to your music at home across the net or watch the cable you have hooked up to your tv/tuner card...but its 29.99 (worth it IMHO).

http://kinoma.com/play/

I hope that I didn't write all of this and then you only meant the tf3d music tab...haha...oh well...


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