no2chem "Fast Charge" Battery.dll
 

I saw this mentioned yesterday and have been searching.
Anybody have info on what it does exactly? And can post a link?

Thanks..

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im also looking for this

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Think its in mightyrom, (precooked in)

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Well if we go with what the title says. We can assume it helps charge quickly. Fast charge :-)

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just out of curiosity, if the battery is being charged faster because of this, will it do any damage to the battery since it wasn't designed to be charged at the faster speed?

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some info. http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/?page=2

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Interested in some feedback on how the fast charge works..... and what happens when you charge from a computer. Although it may draw more mAH, if the computer can only output 500mAH... then won't the computer only give 500mAH?

Also.. isn't a power supply for a PC somewhere in the 10+ Amp range for the 5v? Seems like the power supply wouldn't be an issue..

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A USB Port is capable of 1000mA

and this wont damage your device. its fully rated for 1A (1000mA)

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I believe that Mighty, Conflipper, Juggalo, and myself all have it in our latest rom releases. Yes, it charges quicker.

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Do you guys mind telling us how to add this to a current rom we may have? so we dont have to re-flash or leave a rom that we may like a lot?

Is there a regedit or possibly a cab you can make up? Much appreciation :D

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As far as I know it has to be built into the rom when cooking, until someone makes a cab..

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I thought I saw it mentioned in my searching last night that it just needs to be copied then unplugged and plugged in to take effect(?).
-edit- Here's the page: http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...rgee280a6.aspx

I grabbed it the hard way and overwrote.
I'll run the battery down watching a movie and see what happens.
Plugged into the care charger and streaming Sirius it's still draining around 100mAH more than it's charging.

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What's your charger rated at?

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with the rapid charge dll should be 900mAh charge +/-

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Is that 900mAH when first plugged in on a "worn" charge?
Most lithium chargers I've used for RC will charge at a higher rate initially then fall off some as the charge gets closer to completion. I noticed the same with the Diamond.

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is there an OEM for this?

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Please let us know if this works by just copy and overwrite... thanks.

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Since no2chem hasn't made these files freely available, I won't post them.

However, I will tell you how to build it into your rom.

Go here for information on no2chem's unified kitchen:

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...-Upe280a6.aspx

Then donate to no2chem and download kitchen.

Next take all the battery files from the diamond drivrs folder, and copy them to your drivers folder (overwrite existing files) build, flash, and enjoy. Then don't forget to thank me.

A quick test from a usb2 port shows the following approx values:

At 50% charge, charges at 918mA

50 minutes later, nattery is at 90% and charging at 462mA

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What are you using to measure the charge / discharge rate, I had juggalo's rom for a while and it had a really nice battery charge indicator that told current draw and discharge, but now I am using Juicy's rom now adays but the battery meter I had in Juggalos isnt there. I would love to have something similar if you can point me to a good cab.

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no2chem's power cp

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This is gonna be difficult to do without some real testing.
Time charge / charging rate over time would have to be measured.

I can say overwriting battery.dll alone did not make any noticeable difference at first glance but I didn't spend anytime before deleting it once I saw the two behaving the same.

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There are more battery files than just the .dll

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I think that everything is available and linked on his blog, here:

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nuePower.aspx

The nuePowerDriver (for Diamond) and the nuePower Control Panel are separately linked.

Apologies if this aren't the items being discussed.

Best regards,
-boggsie

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This isn't it.

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I figure that out. I donated and am playing with the files.
Now to figure out exactly what to do with any of them o:

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Put them in yer oemdrivers folder.

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I'll go through them tomorrow.
'd like to add all the nu2chem goodies since I'm there (:

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Interesting ... so is this available (separately / individually) via the donators control panel, or do you have to pull it out of the kitchen packages?

Best regards,
-boggsie

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FYI charging your battery in this method will shorten its life.

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Really? General consensus seems to be that it will not. What makes you say that it will?

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All lithium batteries are rated and capable of charging at 1c.
With the battery being 1340mAH it's not even close to damaging it.

I charge my RC batteries at 1c with no ill effects.

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um no it wont, the battery is rated for 1000mAh charge rate

i dont even understand what you're trying to say here but if your saying 1A (1000mA) is fine for the battery, you're correct.

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My RC planes uselithium polymer batteries.
1c is equal to the capacity of the battery.
So a 2000mAH battery can be charged at 2amps safely.

Polymer and ion are the same in chemistry and charging.
So yeah I was saying a 900mAH charge into a 1340mah battery is safe.

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I'm confused and think some terms might be mixed up... but Juggalo is right, and so is fr4nk1yn.

What I think fr4nk1yn was trying to say, is that lithium ion batteries can accept a charging rate in mA up to their capacity in mAh.

SO: The 1340mAh batteries can accept a charge up to a 1340mA output from the charger. This however is not advised, as this much power into a tiny battery causes major heat issues, and I believe the Diamond even has a high temp shutoff. Ideally you want a charge between half of the mAh (seems a bit slow) and all of it (too much heat) so for us, that's 1 Amp.

500mA = Slow
1000mA = Nice:)

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Its a proven fact rapid charging any batt shortens its life span. Thats why if you charge your phone off the usb charger it holds a charge longer then when you charge it off the ac charger. Drain your battery and charge with usb or charger then drain it and charge with this method and you will see it dont hold a charge for as long.

I mean seriously if it was ok then the manufacture would of implimented this in their roms in the first place as being able to brag about the fast charge times would be a selling point. But given the reduced batt life and the warrenty on the batts they would be spending a **** load of money replacing batts under warrenty because of their reduced life in charging them this way.

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Based on my understanding from my Energy Conversion class in college, both Juggalo_X and fr4nk1yn are correct.

@dcperdue: Just because the OEMs and manufacturers don't implement any type of tweaks to improve performance doesn't mean it's damaging to the product. If that was the case, then simple registry tweaks to increase the cache size would be damaging by your logic since they didn't implement that tweak. It was probably a poor business decision from someone that didn't have a complete understanding of the technical stuff or they just got lazy...keep in mind this is HTC.

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If this were the general rule we wouldn't even need custom roms in the first place. The manufacturer would give us all the very best out of the box.

But obviously that is not the case and that is why this forum is here, I suppose.

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well when i charge off the usb i get about 2 more hours charge then when i charge it off the ac adapter. And on my old 6800 my first battery I alwayes charged off the ac adapter and withen 6 month it would not hold a charge. The replacement batt I charged off the usb port on my pc alwayes and it still works on the phone which I gave to my employee and its going on a year and a half now.

But if I am proven to be wrong then so be it but from alwayes using rechargable batts for years I have found that the faster you charge them the faster they die.

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DCP... what you're talking about is the effect that things like car chargers and whatnot have on a standard battery that wasn't intended to be charged from anything other than a wall charger.

This isn't the same ball of wax buddy.

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im starting to realize how horrible the charging is on the diamond.
its literally taken about 3 hours to charge from 30% to 90%

my vogue wouldve been charged within an hour at most.

without going to mightyrom, do i have any more options??
charge current from the wall is between 250-300, seems kinda piss poor to me.