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leadpoizon 06-26-2009 12:32 PM

Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
I realized that when I was on the Touch, Sprint offered the mobile email application which was an awesome application that not only didn't show up in your running processes, but didn't leave the data connection active. Since I have come to the PRO, I realized that services such as SEVEN (even though it's the same company that designed both softwares) use Push by keeping the data connection active. This is actually how the real direct push from the Exchange server works too. The question is here: How is Sprint able to keep the data connection closed and still have push email?! And doesn't leaving the data connection open at all time cause a great drain on your battery life?

(I used to also have a .cab for mobile email that worked on the PRO, but lost it. T_T)

ShadowDrake 06-26-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Yeah I'd love a Mobile email cab for the TP... I want to use SEVEN but don't want to pay for international texts, because I seem to hard reset pretty often per month...

leadpoizon 06-26-2009 03:57 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Yes, It would be awesome if Sprint would release a new SEVEN based app. It would be perfect if it was the new one that supports more than one email and is based on the same way the mobile mail app does push. Anyone know what the deal is with the way the Sprint app does push and the way regular push works? HOW is Sprint able to keep the data connection closed?

DarkLord 06-26-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowDrake (Post 998570)
Yeah I'd love a Mobile email cab for the TP... I want to use SEVEN but don't want to pay for international texts, because I seem to hard reset pretty often per month...

i use SEVEN for two different accounts. what do you mean "but don't want to pay for international texts"? i'm using a seven beta and i haven't been charged for anything ever. perhaps i'm not reading your posting correctly.

ShadowDrake 06-27-2009 12:35 AM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwcj63 (Post 999454)
i use SEVEN for two different accounts. what do you mean "but don't want to pay for international texts"? i'm using a seven beta and i haven't been charged for anything ever. perhaps i'm not reading your posting correctly.

SEVEN used to (coming from maybe March when I stopped using it) send a text message home every time it was installed, crashed, or encountered any other "critical error." The problem with that is that "home" is the isle of man, in the UK. Sprint charges 10 cents per international text message. Every time I had one of those events occur, off went an international text. It was costing me $7-8/month, sometimes more...

Seemed kind of needless. If it's fixed, I guess I'll give it a try.

infamous styles 06-27-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
id love to try that sprint mobile email.

seanstick 06-27-2009 09:46 AM

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Here is the cab of the sprint mobile email.

I works by sending a text message that you never see. Only one email address is supported.

infamous styles 06-27-2009 09:54 AM

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awesome. thanks

DarkLord 06-27-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowDrake (Post 1000084)
SEVEN used to (coming from maybe March when I stopped using it) send a text message home every time it was installed, crashed, or encountered any other "critical error." The problem with that is that "home" is the isle of man, in the UK. Sprint charges 10 cents per international text message. Every time I had one of those events occur, off went an international text. It was costing me $7-8/month, sometimes more...

Seemed kind of needless. If it's fixed, I guess I'll give it a try.

i've never seen that. i get an email everytime i reinstall but i've never gotten a text message. interesting.

ShadowDrake 06-28-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwcj63 (Post 1000746)
i've never seen that. i get an email everytime i reinstall but i've never gotten a text message. interesting.

The text message is outgoing to SEVEN HQ, I don't think one comes back.

To update, I downloaded the most recent version and...

YES, SEVEN STILL SENDS INTERNATIONAL TEXTS!

Just be aware.

Thankfully my Airave doesn't seem to allow international texts through, so I seem to be good as long as I don't hard reset or anything while out and about. Here's the number sent to, and messages are coded

http://i41.tinypic.com/hvb8ed.jpg

DarkLord 06-29-2009 07:05 AM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowDrake (Post 1002902)
The text message is outgoing to SEVEN HQ, I don't think one comes back.

To update, I downloaded the most recent version and...

YES, SEVEN STILL SENDS INTERNATIONAL TEXTS!

Just be aware.

Thankfully my Airave doesn't seem to allow international texts through, so I seem to be good as long as I don't hard reset or anything while out and about. Here's the number sent to, and messages are coded

http://i41.tinypic.com/hvb8ed.jpg

that's interesting. thanks for the info.

quick99si 06-29-2009 07:54 AM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Like already mentioned, Sprint Mobile Email sends an encrypted text which is deleted/ignored, and only used as a notification event for new email. I've seen the contents of these texts when I had Sprint Mobile Email configured to push emails to my device BUT no client on the device to receive them.

Treos with PalmOS have a similar application which basically scans incoming text messages for keywords and then triggers system events depending on your configuration (ie perform a Send/Receive within the email client) - decent "push" email without the push email hit on battery life.

leadpoizon 07-02-2009 01:30 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 1003471)
Like already mentioned, Sprint Mobile Email sends an encrypted text which is deleted/ignored, and only used as a notification event for new email. I've seen the contents of these texts when I had Sprint Mobile Email configured to push emails to my device BUT no client on the device to receive them.

Treos with PalmOS have a similar application which basically scans incoming text messages for keywords and then triggers system events depending on your configuration (ie perform a Send/Receive within the email client) - decent "push" email without the push email hit on battery life.

Ahhh, so that's how it works. I really like that method, since it doesn't keep the data connection on. Anyone know any other providers that are free and use this method? I'd really like to have HTML email and on multiple accounts.

Devileyezz 07-07-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Would this work on TELUS in Canada?

iroc 07-07-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
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Here's the Telus version. I believe it's done by Visto, but it should work the same way (hidden text message).

In the past, I've setup a work account and a gmail account, but went back to Seven because it adds "Send via Telus Mobile Mail" on every email (I don't know how to turn it off).

If I could remove that footer, I would be using it instead of Seven.

Devileyezz 07-07-2009 04:03 PM

Re: Sprint Mobile Email vs regular ol' direct push?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iroc (Post 1019788)
Here's the Telus version. I believe it's done by Visto, but it should work the same way (hidden text message).

In the past, I've setup a work account and a gmail account, but went back to Seven because it adds "Send via Telus Mobile Mail" on every email (I don't know how to turn it off).

If I could remove that footer, I would be using it instead of Seven.

That's the same reason I stopped using it too.
I wish Seven releases another version with the encrypted text messages.


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