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toviaheli 05-19-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
how about all those here who are Using Google maps and live search all day updating traffic info as they drive for their jobs?
How much data do they use in a month?

gmfeny 05-19-2008 08:06 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
yea the OP skipped a line


Sprint is updating its Terms Of Service starting in mid-July and will be capping mobile broadband data usage at 5GB. Previously, Sprint offered truly unlimited mobile broadband. Once the new Terms Of Service go into effect, users who go over the 5GB cap, or a 300MB roaming cap, will be charged extra fees. ""This will apply to both network cards as well as tethering mobile phones to laptops."" AT&T Mobility and Verizon Wireless currently offer 5GB data plans, also.

Scrotum 05-19-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
For everyone talking about leaving with no ETF, I was under the impression that you could only use a change to the T&C as a way out of your contract if it effected the base plan, not optional add-ons live texting or data services. This loophole was closed after a bunch of people left when texts went from $.10 to $.15 each. Is this accurate?
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Unknown Zone 05-19-2008 08:20 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmfeny (Post 288588)
... ""This will apply to both network cards as well as tethering mobile phones to laptops."" ...

if this is correct...I dont tether(pam) and I dont have a network card...so having unlimited vision on the mobile should still be ok.

Have to wait and see. 8)

hawkins31313 05-19-2008 08:26 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
thats a lot of bull...I feel if you already have a contract with them before the cap it should stay the same..

frejos 05-19-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
So they seriously expect someone to pay 59.99 a month for 5 GB?

frejos 05-19-2008 08:54 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Talk about timing, the Sprint commercial just came on... I think we should all email him... quoting:

"If you could change the way wireless companies did things, what would you do?

I'm Dan Hesse the new CEO of Sprint. Here's our idea, use your phone for all the great things it can do without worrying about the meter running. How's that for a wireless revolution. Pretty awesome huh?"

The Simply Everything Plan
Unlimited surfing
Unlimited push-to-talk
Unlimited texting
Unlimited emailing
Unlimited GPS Navigation
Unlimited talking

Welcome to the Now Network. (tm)

-- dan@sprint.com

shaggylive 05-19-2008 09:06 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
propaganda is often misleading, this will effect none of us.

No1ustad 05-19-2008 09:09 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Just sent "dan" the following.

Unlimited Everything Plan...or is it unlimited, but only up to 5GB?

"If you could change the way wireless companies did things, what would you do?"

Well. i would start with taking a look at this.

Sprint is updating its Terms Of Service starting in mid-July and will be capping mobile broadband data usage at 5GB. Previously, Sprint offered truly unlimited mobile broadband. Once the new Terms Of Service go into effect, users who go over the 5GB cap, or a 300MB roaming cap.

Interesting, no? It's also quite interesting considering the scheduled release dates of working MMS on some Windows Mobile phones....

I'm <inserted name here>, a new Customer of Sprint. Here's My idea, use My phone for all the great things it can do without worrying about the meter running. How's that for a wireless revolution. Pretty awesome huh?"

Lecithin 05-19-2008 09:11 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrotum (Post 288591)
For everyone talking about leaving with no ETF, I was under the impression that you could only use a change to the T&C as a way out of your contract if it effected the base plan, not optional add-ons live texting or data services. This loophole was closed after a bunch of people left when texts went from $.10 to $.15 each. Is this accurate?

This is true. Now a bunch of people also got out when they closed the loophole because it was a change in the contract, but thats neither here nor there. The only way you could get out is if the vision services were included in your plan as part of the base price. If you pay $10-15 more a month to have vision you won't evade the etf. If, however, you pay $99 a month and it includes, everything as one fee, or if you have sero which includes the internet then you could cancel with no etf.

[sammich] 05-19-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by No1ustad (Post 288652)
Just sent "dan" the following.

Unlimited Everything Plan...or is it unlimited, but only up to 5GB?

"If you could change the way wireless companies did things, what would you do?"

Well. i would start with taking a look at this.

Sprint is updating its Terms Of Service starting in mid-July and will be capping mobile broadband data usage at 5GB. Previously, Sprint offered truly unlimited mobile broadband. Once the new Terms Of Service go into effect, users who go over the 5GB cap, or a 300MB roaming cap.

Interesting, no? It's also quite interesting considering the scheduled release dates of working MMS on some Windows Mobile phones....

I'm <inserted name here>, a new Customer of Sprint. Here's My idea, use My phone for all the great things it can do without worrying about the meter running. How's that for a wireless revolution. Pretty awesome huh?"

Best part - Last 3 lines =]

Torx 05-19-2008 09:55 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
wow... i dont know what to say.

the underlying company behind unlimited data, and best bang for the buck is finally crumbling down. What a shame. A company thats already got a bad rep for almost everything and possibly on the verge of collapsing this would be the last thing i thought they would pull from their grimy hat.

i agree, if you arent bound to the new terms then you shouldnt be liable for 5gb limit.

considering every other usa carrier has a limit, im worried about the current state of our country's wireless network.. we truely are behind the times compared to japan and europe and thats a shame.

Looks like tethering when commiecast is down is going to be a problem.

mromblad 05-19-2008 10:07 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
This change will not affect any subscriber with a Powervision or Vision plan. This will only affect PAM and Datacards.

Again, if you have a Data Card, or PAM (Phone as Modem) on your account, there will be a contractual change.

If you have a regular minute plan with vision access or power vision access, this will NOT affect you unless you also have PAM on the line.

bkhoste 05-19-2008 10:14 PM

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Here is a link to a convert to help those of us who are working on our Geekdom, http://www.digitaldutch.com/unitconverter/bits.htm. Once you sign in to sprint.com, click on usage details you should be able to find a number.

wjrandon 05-19-2008 10:19 PM

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Hopefully this will just remain a rumor. The high cost of data usage is one of the reasons I left Sprint for Cingular back in 2001.

tech 05-19-2008 10:28 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
this won't happened there just thinking of it but they know if they do they will loose more custumers a lot more every sprint maneger that I talk with and district manegers even confirm it they won't doit

wjrandon 05-19-2008 10:45 PM

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Quote:

9:55:43 PM System Connected to sprint-xxx.xxxchat.com
9:55:43 PM System Session ID: xxxx115
9:55:49 PM System Please hold and the next available agent will be with you shortly.
10:22:44 PM System Sheneque has joined this session!
10:22:44 PM System Connected with Sheneque
10:22:44 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque Thank you for contacting Sprint. My name is Sheneque. How may I assist you today?
10:23:11 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon Hi, I have a question about possible upcoming changes to Sprints terms of service. I've been hearing reports all over the Internet that sprint might be placing a limit on data usage. Have you heard anything about this?
10:24:59 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque I do apologize, I have not heard this at all, this is the first.
10:25:25 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon Well it might just be a rumor, but it's pretty scary.
10:25:53 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon Supposedly starting July 13th a 5GB cap will be added on the Vision packages
10:26:26 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon similar to what AT&T and Verizon has already done.
10:26:49 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque Yes, I believe that is just a rumor, if anything like that was to occur sprint customer would be notified way in advance.
10:27:30 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon Well okay. I suppose I shouldn't worry.
10:27:43 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon I'd hate to lose the unlimited plan.
10:28:29 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque No, please do not worry, there no changes coming anytime soon, especially the rumor that you heard.
10:28:58 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon Thanks Sheneque.
10:29:13 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque No problem. Do you have any further questions?
10:29:46 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/user1.png wjrandon No, that was my only concern. Have a great evening. Thanks again.
10:29:56 PM https://sprint-ap1.cnxchat.com/netag...imgs/agent.png Sheneque Our goal is to make your web chat experience a great one. Sprint would like your feedback and comments. Please take the time to complete the short survey at the end of your chat.Thank you again for contacting Sprint. We appreciate your business.
For some reason her words do not provide much comfort. Still Sprint would only be shooting them selfs in the foot by doing this after all the heavy marketing with the Simply Everything campaign. :scratch:

rdd0512 05-19-2008 10:45 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mromblad (Post 288715)
This change will not affect any subscriber with a Powervision or Vision plan. This will only affect PAM and Datacards.

Again, if you have a Data Card, or PAM (Phone as Modem) on your account, there will be a contractual change.

If you have a regular minute plan with vision access or power vision access, this will NOT affect you unless you also have PAM on the line.

i use the moguls internet sharing, i dont know if it is officially on my plan as PAM and i use my sprint pcs connection not phone as modem line, so would that start being charged as PAM on the bill? hopefully as previously stated this is just a rumor, and i know this is all just speculation, but damn this is really a bad business move by sprint.

tek2tirado 05-20-2008 01:00 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bkhoste (Post 288727)
Here is a link to a convert to help those of us who are working on our Geekdom, http://www.digitaldutch.com/unitconverter/bits.htm. Once you sign in to sprint.com, click on usage details you should be able to find a number.


so that number is in [K] or [KB]?

MightyM0use 05-20-2008 01:13 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Ok, so say someone was using PDAnet on their employee line any thoughts on how that would be handled? As it is the program hides that fact that you are tethering.

No1ustad 05-20-2008 03:38 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
if it hides the fact that ur thethering, it'll look like ur just accessing the pages via ur phone. unless u stick out enough to notify someone to check you out.

soinkster 05-20-2008 05:14 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
this really efed up my day being that I intended on buying a laptop tomorrow smh

jason25 05-20-2008 05:35 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
I just bought a TV Tuner so I could use Orb for more than streaming music.

VW 05-20-2008 06:57 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
This does suck, but to put it in perspective, I am at 1.2 gigs for 2/3 a billing cycle, after slinging, push email, surfing etc. you only really needto be careful if you are tethering at this point (which ive done of too)

nico4k 05-20-2008 09:00 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
i dont think sprint can afford any major mistakes like these at this time...they already screwed up with the contract change terms...and more than a million people left them...
I dont think they would do this...and if so...they are just planing to bring down the company to bankruptcy.

ryanbg 05-20-2008 09:04 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
I emailed dan@sprint.com for the heck of it, and stated my concern about the 5GB cap.

Success100 05-20-2008 09:05 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
dude 5 gigs in one month is FAR more then what the most of us use.

VW is right, the only people who REALLY need to worry are the ones who are doing major slinging and using the phones as modems for XBL and such.

In my few years with alltel/sprint, i have never came close to 5 gigs of bandwidth in a month, and im a power user....

schettj 05-20-2008 09:34 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
5GB=18.2 hours of "orb" streamed video at 80KB/sec, which is the size of my out pipe for orb.

I can't imagine it would be any *more* time for sprint TV.

So they're giving you a half-hour/day use for sprint tv, give or take. Interesting.

Now, looking at my usage, I'm at 72,000 or so of whatever units it reports (probably KB) after 2 days in the current billing cycle. So for my typical email and light browsing use I would use just a couple meg a month. That leaves quite a bit...

I could see maybe busting that cap every now and then, but it would be a somewhat atypical month for me.

Success100 05-20-2008 09:38 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 289192)
5GB=18.2 hours of "orb" streamed video at 80KB/sec, which is the size of my out pipe for orb.

I can't imagine it would be any *more* time for sprint TV.

So they're giving you a half-hour/day use for sprint tv, give or take. Interesting.

Now, looking at my usage, I'm at 72,000 or so of whatever units it reports (probably KB) after 2 days in the current billing cycle. So for my typical email and light browsing use I would use just a couple meg a month. That leaves quite a bit...

I could see maybe busting that cap every now and then, but it would be a somewhat atypical month for me.

nice analysis!

blasphemous_prime 05-20-2008 10:00 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
i do apologize if i missed anything, but i also hope that there ain't no limits set on my data since i changed to simply everything.

Twinsen 05-20-2008 10:17 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
What kind of browsing are you guys doing that you would hit 5gb a month? Unless you tether to your phone every day and use it at work of course...

Success100 05-20-2008 10:22 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinsen (Post 289243)
What kind of browsing are you guys doing that you would hit 5gb a month? Unless you tether to your phone every day and use it at work of course...

i do that, and still have came nowhere close to 5 gigs

shaggylive 05-20-2008 11:41 AM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 289192)
5GB=18.2 hours of "orb" streamed video at 80KB/sec, which is the size of my out pipe for orb.

I can't imagine it would be any *more* time for sprint TV.

So they're giving you a half-hour/day use for sprint tv, give or take. Interesting.

Now, looking at my usage, I'm at 72,000 or so of whatever units it reports (probably KB) after 2 days in the current billing cycle. So for my typical email and light browsing use I would use just a couple meg a month. That leaves quite a bit...

I could see maybe busting that cap every now and then, but it would be a somewhat atypical month for me.

not to keep a *dead* thread going, but want to clear up the math.... (not to pick on schettj (went farther than the rest of us...))

Yes, the "units" are in KB's, since that's how they bill ($0.03/KB) (have verified with some previous bills where my vision disapeared)
72,000KB is ~70mb
5gb/30days= ~170mb/day

but like I've been saying, this is just a nasty rumor to get more ppl to drop sprint before they release 4G.

Edit* also if they were that concerned about it, why don't they let you see your data history (graph), the way they do for anytime minutes and bill totals (billing trends).

neodorian 05-20-2008 01:44 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
I would imagine this is to get people signed up for a data card plan now that it is so easy to unofficially tether and use your phone as your modem. They want to monetize this. I have been using my phone as my primary modem since I moved a month ago (since I didn't feel like getting comcast--at least not right away.) If you can just download an app like WMWiFi and avoid paying tethering charges then what will stop everyone from doing it? I see what they are doing here and it sucks because the unlimited cheap fast data is their best point. Still, I would conceivably pay a little more for truly unlimited data over legit tether. It will still be cheaper than the $45 I would pay for Comcast.

InvincibleLiving 05-20-2008 02:11 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
ouch i'm at 16+ gigs for the month.. this is gonna be an adjustment for your boy!!!

someone PLEASE tell me i'm using the wrong conversion rate (KB)... my current usage page gives this number: 2112842

kyppcgeek 05-20-2008 02:17 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
HAHAHAH!!!! SPRINT LOSES ANOTHER MILLION CUSTOMERS!

Honestly though using pocket IE and other data programs on my vz xv6800 I have yet to exceed 200MB

blue4shizzle 05-20-2008 02:59 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
i'm around 400,000 and i still got until the 28th, an i just use skyfire and jive talk lol

Perasite 05-20-2008 03:55 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nautica2450 (Post 289539)
ouch i'm at 16+ gigs for the month.. this is gonna be an adjustment for your boy!!!

someone PLEASE tell me i'm using the wrong conversion rate (KB)... my current usage page gives this number: 2112842

I'm getting you at just over 2 GB with that number... 2112842/1024=2063.32MB
2063.32/1024=2.015GB

Did I do it wrong?

Perasite 05-20-2008 03:57 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue4shizzle (Post 289601)
i'm around 400,000 and i still got until the 28th, an i just use skyfire and jive talk, aint that a B****

That should be less than 400MB. Seems like you've got lots of available data.

joe3789 05-20-2008 04:10 PM

Re: Sprint 5GB internet cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kyppcgeek (Post 289548)
HAHAHAH!!!! SPRINT LOSES ANOTHER MILLION CUSTOMERS!

Honestly though using pocket IE and other data programs on my vz xv6800 I have yet to exceed 200MB

lol as slow as PIE is, you won't be able to exceed 5GB within a month unless you are using it all day everyday, now if iPhone's Safari is ever ported over to WM6.1, look out ... :headbang:


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