Originally Posted by Karl (Post 2176893)

t mobile vs. everyone hmm looks like they are cheaper or are they just BS'ing



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Originally Posted by Tinkerbell (Post 2176896)

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell (Post 2176896)

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2176926)

for one, i would rather have unlimited data with the slowest provider than be capped and throttled down to sub-dial up speeds on tmo. they really are that low. a freeind of mine has tmobile, and when he hits that cap 10 days in to his month, his phone is basicly worthless unless he is on wifi. they really shouldnt be able to call that unlimited.
also, the sprint unlimited minute plan is almost the same as the next plan down. 1500 minutes with unlimited mobile to mobile is just as good as unlimited. no joke, my wife and her sister use 6000 minutes a month together. about 300 count toward our actual metered minutes. i contend that unless you are trying, it is pretty hard to break 1500 minutes when mobile to mobile are free and nights start at 7. i love how they cherry pick a plan to put against sprints plan, but dont actually compare the most similar plan.

anyway, tmobile is obviously for women, fruits, and the infirm. i dont fall in to any of those catagories.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2176928)

also, i just watched the comparison vids. what a joke!!!!!
of course the hspa+ phone is going to beat the iphone. no matter what network its on, its only capable of traditional 3g. that is blatant false advertisement. they try to confuse by putting their"4g" phone against a phone with a 4 in the name to confuse people.

at least sprint doesnt outright lie in their commercials. i really like the hesse commercials. he got that quaint tom bodette way about him.

things like this make me like tmobile less.

Originally Posted by fixxxer2012 (Post 2176957)

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I dont like the data caps tmobile has but ive heard their network is much improved as of late. If verizon doesnt work out ill be switching.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177003)

Wow. You have a friend? Your online vampire dating profiles and up to date myspace seem to imply otherwise!?! Lol?

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Originally Posted by cornelious2 (Post 2177056)

All I'm going to say is the test is foobar since they didn't compare each carrier's galaxy 2 phone. an iPhone after having like phone comparison would have been fine though.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177119)

how does tmo get by with claiming its h+ is both 3g and 4g?

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177153)

H is 3G, H+ is 4G, AT&T is doing this too and they are using a slower version of H+. Want to go that route then not even wi-max or LTE can be considered 4G, really?

Originally Posted by pcmag

T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21 service won in the 3G bracket of our study, and the company's high-end HSPA+ 42 service competed reasonably well with other providers' 4G service.

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Two 4G candidate systems are commercially deployed: The Mobile WiMAX standard (at first in South Korea in 2006), and the first-release Long term evolution (LTE) standard (in Scandinavia since 2009). It has however been debated if these first-release versions should be considered as 4G or not. Since the above mentioned first-release versions of Mobile WiMAX and LTE support much less than 1 Gbit/s peak bit rate, they are not fully IMT-Advanced compliant, but are often branded 4G by service providers. On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions. Mobile WiMAX Release 2 (also known as WirelessMAN-Advanced or IEEE 802.16m') and LTE Advanced (LTE-A) are IMT-Advanced compliant backwards compatible versions of the above two systems, standardized during the spring 2011, and promising peak bit rates in the order of 1 Gbit/s. Services are expected in 2013

Originally Posted by also from wikipedia

The fastest 3G-based standard in the UMTS family is the HSPA+ standard, which was commercially available in 2009 and offers 28 Mbit/s downstreams (22 Mbit/s upstreams) without MIMO, i.e. only with one antenna, and in 2011 accelerated up to 42 Mbit/s peak bit rate downstreams using either DC-HSPA+ (simultaneous use of two 5 MHz UMTS carrier)[4] or 2x2 MIMO. In theory 672 Mbit/s is possible, but still not deployed. The fastest 3G-based standard in the CDMA2000 family is the EV-DO Rev. B, which was available in 2010 and offers 15.67 Mbit/s downstreams

Originally Posted by cornelious2 (Post 2177159)

to be fair who gives a crap if it's 3g or 4g. all I know is I get much faster speed here on Sprint than my buddy does on t-mobile. if that changes, I'll switch I don't have any real reason for blind loyalty. tests and reports are nice, but signal can change drastically with one step in a direction making almost all of these tests fudgeable.

but the major point is I would rather have faster 3g than slower 4g I could give two squirts what it's called.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177156)

whatever eric. according to your own source, your wrong. your tmobile fanboyism is blinding you to facts. the fact of the matter is that the ieee said that wimax and lte were on track to the 4g pathway as they were upgradeable to lte plus and wimax v2. h+ had always been advanced 3g and tmobile just started calling it 4g with out permission from the group that sets the standard who decided to stiffle confusion let it slide.



i know thats a lot to read since its not about tmobile, but do you see how they dont even mention hsd/upa+?



wiki even calls h+ 3g multiple times...
so whats up eric? feeling froggy?

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177162)

your missing my point. not that one is better than the other universally, its that eric makes up facts to suit his argument. thats all im getting at.

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177185)

And here's how I know, awhile ago I read an article that said that the ITU recently updated the definition of 4G to include H+
That article is from 2010 how weird for it to not be on the wiki article?

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177156)

h+ had always been advanced 3g and tmobile just started calling it 4g with out permission from the group that sets the standard who decided to stiffle confusion let it slide.

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177185)

Your sprint fanboyism and T-mobile hate is blinding you to the facts, did you not see when I said that AT&T is also calling H+ 4G?

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177195)

That's exactly what I said. You reading comprehension is poor.





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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177199)

I've successfully proved you wrong in every post and the best you could do is personally attack me.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177211)

Ummm. I disagree on all points. I don't know what else to say. If your looking for me to conceed and crown you king of the internets today, that is not going to happen. But remeber, you get what you put in eric. There is a reason you're currently banned from xda, and known as a troll here. Its not everyone else. If your wondering why no one gets along with you, look in the mirror, sir.

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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177680)

Yes they do and the newer phones can roam on AT&T 3G as part of their new roaming agreement as a result of the failed merger.

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 2177689)

Whats the roaming limit

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 2177735)

you say since the new phones is that just for tmobile phone or can international phones to

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177766)

I don't know about the limit, but most tmobile phones are not pentaband. Most are locked to tmobile frequency. 3g roaming is worthless unless your tmobile handset picks up both 850mhz and 1900 mhz, witch the only tmo handsets that do are the sgs2 and the amaze I believe. Tmobiles 1900 is edge, I believe. I'm sure I will be corrected shortly if I'm incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Wideawake (Post 2177802)

IMHO T-Mobile is useless unless you A.) Don't travel at all. & B.) Live in a major metropolitan area. Just my 2 cents, and btw I've worked for VZW, Alltel & Suncom (T-Mobile bought them)....currently using Sprint as primary carrier with VZW as backup.
~Mike

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2178788)

Ya. Your not close enough to san fran or la to get good data speeds. At least you'll get good reception on the highways. Ever drive out to vegas?

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