Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177003)

Wow. You have a friend? Your online vampire dating profiles and up to date myspace seem to imply otherwise!?! Lol?

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Originally Posted by cornelious2 (Post 2177056)

All I'm going to say is the test is foobar since they didn't compare each carrier's galaxy 2 phone. an iPhone after having like phone comparison would have been fine though.

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2177119)

how does tmo get by with claiming its h+ is both 3g and 4g?

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2177153)

H is 3G, H+ is 4G, AT&T is doing this too and they are using a slower version of H+. Want to go that route then not even wi-max or LTE can be considered 4G, really?

Originally Posted by pcmag

T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21 service won in the 3G bracket of our study, and the company's high-end HSPA+ 42 service competed reasonably well with other providers' 4G service.

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Two 4G candidate systems are commercially deployed: The Mobile WiMAX standard (at first in South Korea in 2006), and the first-release Long term evolution (LTE) standard (in Scandinavia since 2009). It has however been debated if these first-release versions should be considered as 4G or not. Since the above mentioned first-release versions of Mobile WiMAX and LTE support much less than 1 Gbit/s peak bit rate, they are not fully IMT-Advanced compliant, but are often branded 4G by service providers. On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions. Mobile WiMAX Release 2 (also known as WirelessMAN-Advanced or IEEE 802.16m') and LTE Advanced (LTE-A) are IMT-Advanced compliant backwards compatible versions of the above two systems, standardized during the spring 2011, and promising peak bit rates in the order of 1 Gbit/s. Services are expected in 2013

Originally Posted by also from wikipedia

The fastest 3G-based standard in the UMTS family is the HSPA+ standard, which was commercially available in 2009 and offers 28 Mbit/s downstreams (22 Mbit/s upstreams) without MIMO, i.e. only with one antenna, and in 2011 accelerated up to 42 Mbit/s peak bit rate downstreams using either DC-HSPA+ (simultaneous use of two 5 MHz UMTS carrier)[4] or 2x2 MIMO. In theory 672 Mbit/s is possible, but still not deployed. The fastest 3G-based standard in the CDMA2000 family is the EV-DO Rev. B, which was available in 2010 and offers 15.67 Mbit/s downstreams

Originally Posted by cornelious2 (Post 2177159)

to be fair who gives a crap if it's 3g or 4g. all I know is I get much faster speed here on Sprint than my buddy does on t-mobile. if that changes, I'll switch I don't have any real reason for blind loyalty. tests and reports are nice, but signal can change drastically with one step in a direction making almost all of these tests fudgeable.

but the major point is I would rather have faster 3g than slower 4g I could give two squirts what it's called.