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spectheintro 09-25-2010 05:03 PM

A power consumption question re: Android.
 
I've been curious about this for a while. Supposedly, WM6.5 had better power management and battery life than WM6.1. I wonder, is this the case with Android?

Generally, we can expect to get worse battery life with a ported OS than one built natively, at least during the opening phases of development. But I noticed on my wife's Sprint Touch that her device, underpowered as it was, seemed to get as good (if not better) battery life under Android as it did under NFSFan's WM ROM. This prompted me to wonder: if we actually nail power management, could Android have better battery life than WM? Or is it a more power-hungry OS in general?

natemcnutty 09-25-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by spectheintro
I've been curious about this for a while. Supposedly, WM6.5 had better power management and battery life than WM6.1. I wonder, is this the case with Android?

Generally, we can expect to get worse battery life with a ported OS than one built natively, at least during the opening phases of development. But I noticed on my wife's Sprint Touch that her device, underpowered as it was, seemed to get as good (if not better) battery life under Android as it did under NFSFan's WM ROM. This prompted me to wonder: if we actually nail power management, could Android have better battery life than WM? Or is it a more power-hungry OS in general?

I believe Android would be more efficient if it were a level playing field. With OCT, I get even better battery life than before. If we can get something similar working in Android, I could see Android outlasting standard WM without too much tweaking :)

spectheintro 09-25-2010 05:50 PM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
I certainly hope so. I really want to run Android and Android only, as I believe it to be a better OS all-round. I just wonder if the TP2, because of its heritage and hardware, would be fighting an uphill battle for battery life. If Android is more draining than WM, I may not realistically be able to use it as my primary. But if Android is a better power manager than WM, then the TP2 could potentially even last longer than it does now.

Viper786 09-26-2010 12:41 AM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
I downloaded this widget called Toggle Data. Or maybe it was called No Data. Basically it just disables data. I have my data disabled until I need to use it and this GREATLY increases battery life.

natemcnutty 09-26-2010 02:54 AM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
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Originally Posted by Viper786 (Post 1956624)
I downloaded this widget called Toggle Data. Or maybe it was called No Data. Basically it just disables data. I have my data disabled until I need to use it and this GREATLY increases battery life.

The biggest thing to remember is that certain things such as wifi are always on if you enable them. At least with wifi, my battery heats up badly even if the screen is off and not in use. Supposedly, the screen doesn't entirely power down properly either, and I know they found it but not sure they have patched it yet.

butler360 09-26-2010 02:03 PM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
I've read about an app called JuiceDefender that turns data off automatically when not in use. Haven't tried it but it seems to get good reviews.

Viper786 09-26-2010 03:09 PM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
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Originally Posted by natemcnutty (Post 1956675)
The biggest thing to remember is that certain things such as wifi are always on if you enable them. At least with wifi, my battery heats up badly even if the screen is off and not in use. Supposedly, the screen doesn't entirely power down properly either, and I know they found it but not sure they have patched it yet.

Did you disable autodimming in windows mobile? because if you didn't, the screen will not fully power down. Mine fully powers down. Check the faq.

And if you download a wifi toggle widget, it is not always on.

natemcnutty 09-26-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper786
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Originally Posted by natemcnutty (Post 1956675)
The biggest thing to remember is that certain things such as wifi are always on if you enable them. At least with wifi, my battery heats up badly even if the screen is off and not in use. Supposedly, the screen doesn't entirely power down properly either, and I know they found it but not sure they have patched it yet.

Did you disable autodimming in windows mobile? because if you didn't, the screen will not fully power down. Mine fully powers down. Check the faq.

And if you download a wifi toggle widget, it is not always on.

Yeah, don't even have wince on that phone atm... I just put a wifi toggle widget on the desktop to handle it, but it should be automatic.

Viper786 09-26-2010 05:20 PM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
If you have Wifi on, it will always stay on. Why should it be automatic? How should the phone now when you want Wifi on and when you want it off?

natemcnutty 09-26-2010 05:23 PM

Re: A power consumption question re: Android.
 
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Originally Posted by Viper786 (Post 1957115)
If you have Wifi on, it will always stay on. Why should it be automatic? How should the phone now when you want Wifi on and when you want it off?

Well, I would think that if there is no data going on the wifi and the device is supposed to be in standby that it would turn the wifi off or at least put it into a sleep mode. Wince certainly does this, and if you want wifi enabled while the screen is off, you have to change registry setting.


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