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[ACL] 09-26-2010 05:07 PM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
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Originally Posted by lioncat55 (Post 1956598)
why not just test 2.1 for now...that would be a good way....i am guess there is nothing extra spec to make 3d work...just the new zimage and modules, and do they work with non nand?

yeah but we already have a sense ui build .. should work with 3d since all the changes are in the kernel and rootfs.

m4f1050 09-26-2010 08:53 PM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
I'll wait for you to do all the necessary changes and when you post it on the 1st post I will try. Thanks!

EDIT: Never mind, Wozzer has to do the update on the post... I guess I will wait for your post... :)

heingtaing 09-27-2010 11:08 PM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
I tried flashing but no boot up for me... maybe i am doing something wrong... anyone want to create a detailed install guide?

another question... will booting from nand help performance as more memory is free from using a windows rom and using android? Thanks want to know if it is worth testing out in regards to speed.

natemcnutty 09-28-2010 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by heingtaing
I tried flashing but no boot up for me... maybe i am doing something wrong... anyone want to create a detailed install guide?

another question... will booting from nand help performance as more memory is free from using a windows rom and using android? Thanks want to know if it is worth testing out in regards to speed.

This is really more for testing and getting it ready to flash directly to NAND. In its current state, this project only uses the NAND for booting. All of the files are still stored on the SD card.

Once it is ready to flash directly to NAND, there will be some obvious performance benefits.

StarLite 09-28-2010 04:44 AM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
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Originally Posted by natemcnutty (Post 1958523)
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This is really more for testing and getting it ready to flash directly to NAND. In its current state, this project only uses the NAND for booting. All of the files are still stored on the SD card.

Once it is ready to flash directly to NAND, there will be some obvious performance benefits.

Will there be?
I was under the impression that SD was actually faster then NAND (at least, thats what I was told by some devs) (some benchmarks pointed that out). Was that information not true, or are there more factors then pure read/write speed (like latency/overhead etc?)

natemcnutty 09-28-2010 02:01 PM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
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Originally Posted by StarLite (Post 1958582)
Will there be?
I was under the impression that SD was actually faster then NAND (at least, thats what I was told by some devs) (some benchmarks pointed that out). Was that information not true, or are there more factors then pure read/write speed (like latency/overhead etc?)

Generally speaking, NAND is fairly slow at writing, but read speeds aren't that bad. There will be a small performance penalty for running off the SD card, but I guess if you have a fast enough SD card, then you might see better performance. Another downside to running off the SD card will be lower battery life since the SD interface is always running.

I've not seen any benchmarks of running things on the NAND vs SD card, but it all depends on the the flash memory that is used and how it was implemented.

arrrghhh 09-28-2010 02:04 PM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
Yea we won't really know until we go full NAND, but in theory it should be faster - as you stated, it won't be dependent on the SD card for OS access.

[ACL] 09-29-2010 01:17 AM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
natemcnutty : i enabled 3d on nand. You can sync and build a new kernel.

Not sure if there will be any performance benefits to the haret version but im interested to see if you guys notice anything.

You may need to modify your tinboot code so hw3d.force=0 is no longer used. Just erase it or set it to 1. At some point we will do away with the 3d checking in general.

Thanks

damage_them 09-29-2010 01:31 AM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
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Originally Posted by [ACL] (Post 1959625)
natemcnutty : i enabled 3d on nand. You can sync and build a new kernel.

Not sure if there will be any performance benefits to the haret version but im interested to see if you guys notice anything.

Thanks

so your saying even though we(nand users) are using the 3d kernals..it doesnt work??

[ACL] 09-29-2010 01:48 AM

Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damage_them (Post 1959649)
so your saying even though we(nand users) are using the 3d kernals..it doesnt work??

hmm i just commited the kernel. 3d was not working before this update. It was posted earlier on the haret release, but nand had more steps to get it working.


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