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Old 05-26-2010, 01:53 PM
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Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

I know this is a very dumb newbie question. I just loaded Android AOSP 2.1 on my Sprint TP2. I was wondering what is the difference between AOSP 2.1 and 2.1 w/Sense.

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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

Sense has the Sense UI as it looks on the Hero and other devices that have that interface on Android.

AOSP is just strictly Android OS without the Sense look.

Sense 2.1 is also much slower from what people have said.
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

i dont think it will get faster until hw3d is figured out. I hit a road block with the 3d. Ive been trying to figure it out for 3 weeks now but no real results.

Maybe its time to recruit more developers. After mrpippy vanished the rhod development slowed down drastically.
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

I want to learn ARM ASM, but it's highly confusing to me... terms like registers and pointers and stacks scare me, I had nightmares last night because of them lol...

Naw seriously though I am just having a hard time following through the code, Like I'm trying to look through the battery code and find the exact calculations so that I can get my battery fix to work better, but I just can't seems to figure out what means what... I get the whole R0-15 concept and what each line BASICALLY does, but I get lost in trying to find out where the code is "popping" and "pushing data to and from the stack... and where the exact calculations are happening... I have IDA Pro and I know a bit of x86 ASM, but ARM doesn't seem to fall into the same level...

I need like a guide for ARM ASM...
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

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Sense has the Sense UI as it looks on the Hero and other devices that have that interface on Android.

AOSP is just strictly Android OS without the Sense look.

Sense 2.1 is also much slower from what people have said.
Thanks I really appreciate your input. I have been lurking in the winmo world for a bit now, but I thought I would try out some Android to see what its all about. Seems everything is pointing in that direction. Unless 7 gets going.

Either way I am getting my wife a Evo come June 4th.
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

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I want to learn ARM ASM, but it's highly confusing to me... terms like registers and pointers and stacks scare me, I had nightmares last night because of them lol...

Naw seriously though I am just having a hard time following through the code, Like I'm trying to look through the battery code and find the exact calculations so that I can get my battery fix to work better, but I just can't seems to figure out what means what... I get the whole R0-15 concept and what each line BASICALLY does, but I get lost in trying to find out where the code is "popping" and "pushing data to and from the stack... and where the exact calculations are happening... I have IDA Pro and I know a bit of x86 ASM, but ARM doesn't seem to fall into the same level...

I need like a guide for ARM ASM...
Yeah .. there are just a few guys that i know who mastered that. Part of the problem we have is lack of knowledge of the hardware.

The way im approaching the 3d is backwards. I made a wince app to load up ahi2dati directly so i can see what part of the mem is being affected. Thats the easy part. I tried putting those addresses into the kernel code but no luck. So i'm almost thinking that it may not be memory related. ATI doesnt really have any documentation on this and they most likely wont help.

i want to get more devs involved. We are lacking manpower on the Rhod.
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

Unless you live in the MIDDLE of a huge city, I, personally, would recommend against the Evo. Simply because 4G coverage has been said time and time again to be patchy... And then there's the whole no physical keyboard... and that's a deal breaker for me, but everyone has their own preference.
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

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Unless you live in the MIDDLE of a huge city, I, personally, would recommend against the Evo. Simply because 4G coverage has been said time and time again to be patchy... And then there's the whole no physical keyboard... and that's a deal breaker for me, but everyone has their own preference.
4G isn't finished being introduced yet, in time I'm sure the coverage issues will be attended to.. Take 3G for instance, theres certain areas that are still "patchy" with 3G service, so of course 4G isn't going to be stars and stripes just yet...

And the physical keyboard has always been the deal breaker for me, but at the convention in Feb I got to handle an EVO and dude lemme tell u, hands down no questions asked I'm getting it lol.. I think you have to handle it to appreciate it... All my PPC's have always had keyboards but times are changing and so am I
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

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Unless you live in the MIDDLE of a huge city, I, personally, would recommend against the Evo. Simply because 4G coverage has been said time and time again to be patchy... And then there's the whole no physical keyboard... and that's a deal breaker for me, but everyone has their own preference.
Yea...I love the keyboard on my TP2, but my wife is still using a Touch Pro. She deserves a upgrade.

On your battery fix. Do I need the zimage and modules file? Do I just replace the files in the andriod folder or do they need to go in the storage card root folder????
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Re: Android AOSP 2.1 vs 2.1 w/ sense

If you're going to wait till July 4 to upgrade, you might just wait for the HTC "Vision" to be announced and see if it's going to happen for sprint or not...

On the fix, I believe only the zImage is required. Because in testing for accuracy I simply replace that one file. The modules only get installed when it boots for the first time and there is no data.img file there.

And just replace them wherever your android install is and boots from.
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