Newtons Rings
 

Hey guys, wondering how many other people are experiencing Newtons Rings and whether or not it coincided with running Android. Here's a picture of Newtons Rings
http://i42.tinypic.com/rw0876.jpg
I was running android with it charging and it just popped up as I was watching the screen. I'm actually pretty certain from what I've read about newton's rings that it probably isn't related to android, unless maybe it's a heat thing. However I have read a couple of people saying that it happened while they were running android as well so I thought I'd ask. My first TP2 had this happen when I kept it in my pocket, but it was bad enough that the touchscreen didn't work at all right away. When I got my new one I didn't keep it in my pocket and I didn't have a problem until now. This one isn't that bad since I can use the screen but it can definitely be seen, I'm hoping it doesn't get worse but we'll see.

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I run the heck out of my TP2, about 7 hours a day in Android and the rest on Windows Mobile and throw in a charge everyday and I do not have this issue. I do have a screen protector on my TP2 and also a Seidio Innocase Surface and a Innocase holster. My TP2 does get really hot sometimes but it gets hotter in Windows than Android.

Also, one should question why your attempting to charge your phone in Android when its been talked about over and over that the charging and battery meter are flaky and still being worked on.

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I don't think android has anything to do w/ it. I had the same problem w/ my first tp1 long before i started using the android port. insurance covered mine

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This was when charging first showed up so I was testing how it worked. Anyway I'm not blaming android, I just thought it was interesting that it coincided with running it. I do know tons of people have had it happen running winmo, especially with HTC's phones.

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Had it on TP1 and now on TP2. I am guessing it's just the nature of this particular type of resistive touch screen.

I deal with touchscreens daily on my day job. A lot of them are setup in hot/humid environments, but they do not seem to get newton rings. But my TP2 does. Guess that's the "quality" we get.

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I would be lying if I said I didn't see this on TP1's and Diamonds but I haven't seen this on a TP2 until now.

I don't know about VZW but Sprint would most likely repair/replace your phone at no cost if you have ESRP (service&repair) on the phone.

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I had it happen to my TP1 and my TP2 -
Sprint told me too bad - its a known issue with these devices going back to the vogue (touch) and they would not replace it as functionality is not affected, they told me its annoying yes but nothing they can do- i could file insurance for the $100 deductible if i wanted - one sprint rep went so far as to tell me he could help me better if i put the phone in the microwave for a few seconds before coming back in.

I hope you fair better than I did, this TP2 is just to get me by until the EVO is out, unless XDANDROID is at 100% by that time on this device - but I know thats not a realistic expectation

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It happened on the tp1 also.
Faulty part basically.
If you have insurance, they should replace it for free since it's a hardware issue and not caused by you.

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I've got the same issue. Went to Sprint store service center. They will replace it, but said if it happens again they won't. Initially said they said since it didn't affect phone usage they weren't going to do anything LOL. I'll pick up my replacement on Tuesday. They gave me HTC's number if it happens again... I laughed. HTC will probably just point me back to Sprint.

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i have this too and I hate it. Takes so much off of the eyecandy factor of the phone. It has nothing to do with Android obviously.

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nothing to do with Android. mine has it and had it before messing with Android.

Has to do with the layers of screen (not sure of the techincal term) becoming spearated.

Can happen due to excessive pressure on the screen (mine happend when my 3yr old son decided to punch me in the pocket....and so happened my phone was in that pocket with screen facing out).

Only way to fix that I am aware of is replacing the device.

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+1 unfortunately.
Unless you want to open up the device and replace the screen/digitizer.
Not sure which one of those two is where it is happening at...But there's no guarantee that the other parts in the phone wouldn't cause it to happen again. So replacing is the safest route.

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This has been discussed at length, at least in the TP1 forums where I formerly hung out. The rainbow banding is caused when the digitizer separates from the other layers of the screen, it is possible to just replace the whole screen but it will void your warranty if you go the DIY route. Your best bet is to try and get Sprint to replace it, if they won't at one store, try another.

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Stuff like this makes me want to buy two of my beloved phones.

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haha, thanks guys. I'm aware that it has something to do with the digitizer/screen and I thought about replacing it but at this point it's not too bad and I'm not motivated enough. As I said it happened with my first TP2 right after I got it. It happened when I sat on it and it was bad enough that the screen was completely dead. I just thought this second time was interesting because there was no pressure involved. I was literally looking at my screen laying on my desk as android booted up, and a couple seconds after it finished booting the screen magically made itself into an oily rainbow

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I bought the TP2 the day it came for Sprint and it happened within a month. Luckily, because it was such a new device at that time (october 09), Sprint reps simply saw and said they'll replace the device for me immediately.

They didn't bother bringing it to the back because it was too new and there were no tools to open the TP2 (supposedly, but don't you open these things up like every other HTC device?) and asked that I come back 2 days later to pick up the TP2 I have now.

This one's been running perfectly so far (though there's a very tiny crack between my "G" and "H" button, but I can't be sure)

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According to our repair center...its a manufacturer's defect. Take'r in.

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Got the same on my tp2.. living with it for now until I get time to flash the stock.
Had 4(four) tp1s replaced for the same issue!

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/5.0.3521/764; U; en) Presto/2.4.15)

Yeah, got this on my TP2 right now, planning to take it in or at least call them later today.

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Doesn't bother me too much. I am holding out for Evo, may just get the TP2 exchanged before Iget an Evo.

Thing is, these rings are a ticking time bomb. They look ugly, but do not impair function. From what I understand, it's moisture between 2 layers of the screen. Something about phones heating up and poor seals on the screen.

When I got this on my TP1, I did not pay much attention. But some time later (a month or 2 I think), a spot got stuck in a middle of the ring. That produced constant "point of touch" and the phone became unusable. Had to wait for 3 days to get a replacement. Good thing I was able to dial with keyboard.

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Yeah that's what I'm worried about as well, we'll see how long it lasts I guess

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From what I have been reading, eventually the screen loses the "touch"ability. So I will try to get it replaced so soon as possible.

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Got mine replaced at a sprint store. No questions asked. I think it is one of the major issues with HTCs touch screens.

Now to unlock the device and flash Mighty/NRG ROM!

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usually happens mostly to people that carry the phone in a pocket. as long as there isnt any physical or liquid damage Sprint will cover the repair or replacement either with ESRP or under warranty

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already in discussion here, feel free to add you're input. there are some suggestions that can help, mine goes in and out. i definitely have negative effects on scrollings, screen sensitivity, etc.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=89774

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Ive had 2 TP2's with this issue

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I've had this happen twice with my TP2s. I'm currently awaiting my FedEx shipment of my second TP2 replacement from VZW!

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Cody, do you have any more information as to what "faulty part" causes this? Perhaps then I could contact my phone insurance/htc and say "hello, my HTC has a faulty processor (for example) and it is causing the newton's rings. I would like a replacement. In my experience if it seems like you know what you're talking about the person is more apt to send you the free replacement - especially if you can point out it's the phone's fault what hardware is faulty.

I had this same issue on my touch pro 1 and also with my touch pro 2. It has nothing to do with what os you run. I thought it was because I keep the phone by my face and was getting radiation :p

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ummm im pretty sure you dont have to tell them whats causing the problem every time iv had it 3 times now twice with TP and once with TP2 and all i gotta do is go to the store show them the touch screen isnt working and they give me a new one....

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First post, but mainly doing it to add flame to the fire of the consumers anger towards HTC.

I've had a TP1 since March 2009 and had to replace it (the whole device) in January 2010 and again last week (early June 2010), due to Newton's rings producing eventually a dark spot in their point of origin that causes the screen to cease functioning.

The fact that it remains a problem for you TP2 owners is outrageous. This is the last time I consider HTC for a resistive screen phone; they need to switch to capacitive like everyone else.

Luckily for me, my original 1-year warranty covered the first device replacement, and my smooth-talking covered the second device (I was outside the three-month warranty on replacement devices; Verizon was being nice to me, I guess!).

Now if the screen on this third device fails completely, I have three months to get a free replacement (at an ~$30 restocking charge). The new problem is that I JUST STARTED TO SEE NEWTON'S RINGS FORMING WITHIN A WEEK.

At least I can just keep getting cheap TP1s!