LMAO +1 HB, your totally right...I just checked out the point ui homepage...and I personally don't think it would suit me...Looks like everything has to be added as applets, and I wonder what kind of effect that would have on memory....with MS3, we can edit everything and add functionality right inside the shell, and small changes to the registry for some things.... If point ui is what works for you, thats awesome bro!!! Things would be boring if we all were the same lol....thats what makes this forum soooo great....all the diversity and unbiased opinions of knowlegable ppc gods all the way to the noobs