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thanx for the feedback...
I have messed around with both, I found palringo much easier to setup and use.
octro added several contacts that it needed for server connections I guess to my buddy lists which I found annoying... as of right now I am still using palringo, the PTT feature is nice, but not somthing I plan on using a lot, and I don't need file transfer from octro on my 6700.
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