[dougd]

Yeah, you are correct. Its a ms3 error, in quick menu or normal drop down its fine. If I install ms3 from the origional exe it will be ok after that. Well I figure if I am going to use this ms3 I will use it for everything, sooner or later there will be a "curtin" that will hide the top bar and everything will be a part of ms3, or at least thats what I hope. I have a widget on one of the panels that goes straight to settings.