[gearjunkeez]

refurbs are a crap shoot. I've had really good ones and really bad ones. Theoretically, they should be as good as - if not better than - new models because you get a refurb when a defective new phone gets sent back to the manufacturer to fix whatever was wrong with it. But - that isn't always the case. I have a refurb mogul that is by far better than the 2 new ones I had before that...