wow someones angry look at it this way the apache was bomb for its time then we went to mogul which sucked IMO and had all the same problems FINALLY with the TP they fixed some of these problems and made a phone i dont mind using and doesnt look or feel like a brick. so you got to cut them a little slack man they are making moves in the right direction if you dont wanna buy it dont thats your perogative as a consumer but that just means thats one more than someone on here that respects what they do can buy