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Re: I think I need to exchange my TP...do you agree?

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Originally Posted by ShadowDrake View Post
No, I'm not an electronics engineer. I understand the point you're making here, and yes, you're correct. It is 100% possible to damage hardware by flashing different software on to it. However, in situations like this, it just isn't going to happen. We're only flashing different software which came from another one of these phones. Reflashing a ROM on a PPC is more or less akin to reformatting your PC. If you bad flash a ROM here, it simply will not boot, the ROM on these devices doesn't have the hardware-level control to cause physical damage.

At the same time, HTC wouldn't make hardware changes in the same device, not that would cause problems like that anyway simply for the fact that they need to maintain interoperability. It would quickly come at great expense to them to maintain two hardware lines on the same phone, under the same name. Additionally, it's already been shown that even the TP2 shares many of the same components as the Touch Pro... They haven't needed to change it.

I'll even go as far as to say go ahead and try flashing a Titan ROM, or even something weirder. If the RUU will even let you, all it will do is hit the Touch Pro boot screen (where it goes to load the ROM), and sit there. You'll be able to re-flash it back to a TP ROM from there, no damage incurred. The firmware you're talking about, which can cause physical damage, and the ROMs for these phones are fundamentally different.

Also, if you put jet fuel in your car, chances are it wouldn't even run, or it would just ping and detonate, due to the fuel being for a different purpose - burning in open air - (and having a lower octane level). It would be equivalent to putting diesel fuel in your gasoline car. What does this really have to do with flashing ROMs here? Not much at all, it's a poor analogy for someone who really understands it.

Again, the vast majority of people here are flashing their phones with another ROM. While it's easy to conclude that it's the ROMs which are causing the problems, and may even be damaging phones... it would be like saying installing Linux on your PC caused your motherboard to burst into flames, while the computer was off, three weeks after you went back to Windows... no correlation as these ROMs don't change anything on the hardware level.

You should look into cooking your own ROM, and see what it really involves. Do some research on PC operating systems too. You'll notice a lot of similarities, and you'll quickly see that there isn't that much to worry about.
I get your point. But, the analogy behind the jet fuel is the same. Most likely the car wouldn't start, your correct, but It's still fuel, made from petroleum, delivered and dispeneced the same way.

You're right that a bad rom will not boot, but drivers that are not designed for a particular piece of harware simply will not run correctly. It might boot, it might work, but you will get glitches and possibly hardware failure. Have you built a new PC with different hardware from your last, forgot to format and booted the new comp because you were excited? It will possibly boot everytime as winblows has proprietary drivers installed to just get the PC started so you can add the correct software, but you will soon see random shutdowns, restarts, corrupted graphics, etc., then possible frying of something on the new MB as your old drivers are designed differently. I have seen this happen.

Yes, HTC and other manufacturing facilities can and will change parts during manufacturing even if it's the same product if it benefits them. Electronics are built in batches or lots. During the first lot, they see a possible flaw and correct the problem. They make all possible changes and then manufacture the second lot. All on the same product line. Have you bought something electronic and noticed on the PCB that it's stamped REV. A? Then bought the same product a month later and it has REV. B stamped on it? That means they changed/added or deleted something from it. It's still the same board, same components but fundamentally different. Something you nor I will never notice unless we have the tech docs in hand.

I do agree that flashing a new rom most likely will not cause hardware failure, though it's possible. Most likely just glitches and other anomolies that can't be explained. All I'm trying to say is that, these people who flash new roms and then start having issues then bash/return the TP for their mistake is getting ridiculous. It hurts us, the consumer. Naw my TP runs perfect from day one (oct 27 build) and I see no reason to change it. If I had a second, I would flash the heck out of it for fun.
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