ok, couldnt get MMS workin regardless of what version of arcsoft mms i installed... ended up figuring out your kitchen from the comments you made in my tread about looking for a stripped rom. created my own rom and MMS is working now. No clu what was different. Now have about 66.2 megs free after a reset, so Im hapy. was loving the 82.3 i had with the stripped rom, but if this allows me to have MMS Ill rock it for a while. I mean really, its not like I cant flash somethig else on it right?