[crazychef]

Originally Posted by z28marols1

using a reg edit or a hack to use copyrighted software without paying for it is against copyright laws. using a hack to get a SERVICE to which you may not be entitled is totally different. not neccessarily more legal, just not illegal to discuss.

we could legally discuss the uses and how to with warez. however distributing the software itself (in a cracked state, not referring to shareware here) or serials/keygens (which circumvent copy protection, violating copyright laws) is not legal.

in escense, we can legally discuss how to obtain illegal software and how to do other illegal things. the discussion is not whats ILLEGAL. the instructions on how to do warez and bypass copyright protection is not ILLEGAL. posting warez themselves or the serials keygens themselves is whats illegal. That said, the site mods and admin can restrict if more if they like as terms of using the site, its their perogative. So if they want to completely ban discussing how to break copyright protection, thats up to them. however they MUST NOT allow postings that break copyright laws. Now, as posting how to use ICS without paying for it does NOT break any laws, there is nothing saying that the site admin/mods have to ban this particual discussion.

Stealing a service does not equal warez. (note there is no arguement about the legality of USING either, thats not the discussion here.)

you couldnt be more wrong...

thats like saying its ok to come up with a plan to assinate the President or draw plans to make a bomb, but your not doing anything wrong by not acting it out... have you ever heard the terms conspiracy, conspirator, accomplis??? that is in fact what your doing by supplying people with the means to do these things... if i draw up a plan for you to rob a bank and i sit at home i am at just as much fault as the robber...

hence you giving someone or dicussing with someone about how to obtain warez is just as illegal as obtaining the materials yourself