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Originally Posted by newone757
I was reffereing to "ICS Control", which is 100% free non commercial software. ICS control is only GUI to make it easier to control a compnent of windows mobile , internet connection sharing. pefectly legal to distribute ICS
as far as posting wmwifi router, yes i agree that is warez
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and im sorry no you cant, im sure technically were violating all kinds of copyright laws, redistributing MS products... we're not here debating p2p sharing of things..thats a differnent demon... im talking about hacking a program, to get paid fetures for free... thats textbook warez
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Originally Posted by schettj
Is it theft of service though?
You pay for internet. It's not like ICS gets you access to internet if you don't pay for internet.
All it does is let you use that internet you pay for on a different bit of hardware.
I can browse and check email on my phone. I can do the same thing with my phone tethered to my laptop.
Sprint (for example) has a PAM plan, it has smart phones, and it used to have fairly dumb phones that could access the internet.
If you had a dumb phone and started using it tethered, you could conceivably use significantly more bandwidth then just using the phone itself. This was back in '00-06 range.
Today, with sprint tv freely included with every internet plan on every device capable of internet, its entirely possible to burn gigabytes of bandwidth right on your dumbphone just by watching sprint tv.
Likewise, with a smartphone, you can download massive files (I've got plenty of room here on my 4GB card, and download clients for every major protocol) and then move that card from your "phone" to your laptop.
So PAM remains as some weird appendix, mostly as a backup stick to be used to smack the truly insane should they run a porn distribution ring off their vision service (I can only assume...)
You're not stealing a service, you are violating your terms of service without PAM.
That is a different beast then warez (stealing software)
Bottom line (for sprint) if you buy a TP and plug it into a windows box, even *without* launching ICS, it will share the internet to the windows box. It does the same with a linux box (Ubuntu 8.10) - all STOCK, as SHIPPED.
Nothing hacked, nothing changed, nothing installed.
Sprint knows the same either way that you're doing it, and violating your TOS.
But is that the same as cracking (or downloading a cracked copy of) photoshop? Downloading some mp3 music? A TV show? a Movie? Nope. You'll be breaking a law for those. Violation of your TOS is between you and the service provider, not between you and a court of law.
No one ever has been legally found guilty in a court of law of violation of PAM TOS. They (maybe) have had their vision service or entire phone service revoked - that's the right of the service provider if you don't play by their rules.
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ok, stock, bare boned sprint TP, if you turn on ICS, viola! nothing happens, you cant connect to the internet on a PC/Laptop, were not using these things to explore our own device, were hacking ICS, to get a desired result, FREE net on a PC and/or Laptop.. which is clearly not the intended uses without an exended data(PAM) plan...
theres nothing stock that allows tethering without a hack, tweak, a PAID FOR PAM PLAN, or a paid or trial license to wmwifi.. nothing..
so i hear the ICS arguments, but were still wrong.. we had to maliciously, and intentionally, do something, a "crack" if you will, you get this paid service for free...
how is it anything other than theft of services??? we all know, its a PAID for service were intentionally abusing, tweaking,hacking, to get a FREE result.. we all know our standard DATa plan, does not include this...this isnt about legal or illegal though, again, this is about getting a paid service/software access for FREE, which by all definitions is warez and theres really no argument to justify otherwise...
i mean hear you go, tell me please, how are we really justifing NOT PAYING.. we can argue all we want, but in the END ARE U PAYING FOR WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE PAID FOR??? NO! therefore, i dont really see a suitable counter-argument being brought up... i mean unless someone has a different defintiton of warez, where it doesnt involve non payment, or intentionally hacking,tweaking, or bypassing the prog to obtain it..