[smarcisin]

yeah its not out yet, just called about the problem my titan has shutting off when i slide out the keyboard, getting my "new" phone on wednesday. oh well i returned about 7 moto v710's when i had that phone a couple years ago and i got upgraded to the e815. maybe doing the same with this will get me the TP sometime soon. if everyone returns them they will run out of refurbs like with sprint lol