[fat boy]

OK everything works and the reason I had problems was two fold one I had installed and uninstalled a keyboard that screwed my system and two I got lazy and did not turn off TF3D when installing. I have updated the first post and you must install exactly like that or if you have problems its your own fault. So far everything works for me if you install correctly and this is the best yet.

HOW to install:
-Hard reset strongly recommended!
-Turn off TF3D
-Install net cf 3.5
-Go to start/settings/system/power/advanced/ and uncheck all boxes. Go back later after full install and reset to what you want
-install XBmod HD MANILA V1.8.1 cab into device, not internal storage!!!
-wait more than 10mn for install
-it will auto-reboot, wait be patient-its loading a lot more. You will see keyboard a couple of times and see a "Unable to Load" screen.....just wait and don't panic
-Go to settings again and turn off TF3D
-Install the additional tab.cab
-Install the 1.8.5 fix.cab
-delete the My device/Application Data/HTC/databases/forecast_cache.db file BEFORE you use the weather tab.
-Go to start/settings/today and restart TF3D
-Let TF3D start and do a soft reset.
-At this point your new TF3D HD should work perfect and before you load or customize go get familar with it, then you can begin to customize. Be aware that some customization just are not compatible, in particular other 3rd party landscapes will SCREW this up!